ADVERTISEMENT

Republican overconfidence

BradStevens

All-American
Sep 7, 2023
7,695
14,669
113
For the last 30 years, it feels like after every election or two we get a spate of articles and public sentiment about how one party is dead or in shambles and might never win again. Recently, that’s led to a lot of overconfidence from the winning party and a desire for them to do too much while in power or in their messaging. I think the Dems did precisely that over the last 4 years.

Are Republicans now on the verge of doing the same? Will they push back on this kind of messaging that appears intentionally to have a sinister double meaning? Because if stuff like that his continues, they will poison the well (even more) with a generation of women voters.

 
Last edited:
For the last 30 years, it feels like after every election or two we get a spate of articles and public sentiment about how one party is dead or in shambles and might never win again. Recently, that’s led to a lot of overconfidence from the winning party and a desire for them to do too much while in power or in their messaging. I think the Dems did precisely that over the last 4 years.

Are Republicans now on the verge of doing the same? Will they push back on this kind of messaging that appears intentionally to have a sinister double meaning? Beachside if stuff like that his continues, they will poison the well (even more) with a generation of women voters.

MANDATE SON!!!!

Half the country disagrees with the other half yet they go all in. Transformative to a mandate. It’s so dumb
 
  • Like
Reactions: Indyhorn
For the last 30 years, it feels like after every election or two we get a spate of articles and public sentiment about how one party is dead or in shambles and might never win again. Recently, that’s led to a lot of overconfidence from the winning party and a desire for them to do too much while in power or in their messaging. I think the Dems did precisely that over the last 4 years.

Are Republicans now on the verge of doing the same? Will they push back on this kind of messaging that appears intentionally to have a sinister double meaning? Because if stuff like that his continues, they will poison the well (even more) with a generation of women voters.

Oh The Drama GIF by MOODMAN
 
You can do that with anything. Like Biden calling Trump supporters garbage. But language and stuff like this that takes off on Twitter has real effects. Again, this is just so easy, so risk-free for Vance to drop a Tweet "Let's fight, let's be humorous, but let's be smart about our language."

From that article (that is slanted and ridiculous at some points):

On Election Night, Fuentes tweeted, “Your body, my choice. Forever.” Young men began parroting him, commenting “Your body, my choice” on young women’s social-media accounts; the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a think tank focussed on extremism, found, within a twenty-four-hour period, a “4,600% increase in mentions of the terms ‘your body, my choice’ and ‘get back in the kitchen’ on X”

I hadn't heard about it until my neighbor brought it up. He's worried about someone saying this to his teenage daughter, which I laughed off, but had to admit that this messaging and phrasing is ill-conceived.
 
You can do that with anything. Like Biden calling Trump supporters garbage. But language and stuff like this that takes off on Twitter has real effects. Again, this is just so easy, so risk-free for Vance to drop a Tweet "Let's fight, let's be humorous, but let's be smart about our language."

From that article (that is slanted and ridiculous at some points):

On Election Night, Fuentes tweeted, “Your body, my choice. Forever.” Young men began parroting him, commenting “Your body, my choice” on young women’s social-media accounts; the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a think tank focussed on extremism, found, within a twenty-four-hour period, a “4,600% increase in mentions of the terms ‘your body, my choice’ and ‘get back in the kitchen’ on X”

I hadn't heard about it until my neighbor brought it up. He's worried about someone saying this to his teenage daughter, which I laughed off, but had to admit that this messaging and phrasing is ill-conceived.

Sorry Valentines GIF by South Park

for my spoiler.

Nick Fuentes is f#ck twat and……..



your neighbor sounds like a p#%#y
 
Sometimes in the mid 80s, Patrick Caddell said that the Democrats would not win another election in the 20th century. The growth of southern states was too much to overcome. That didn't pan out.

Elections are snapshots of a moment in time. The moment of November 5, 2024 will never return.
 
For the last 30 years, it feels like after every election or two we get a spate of articles and public sentiment about how one party is dead or in shambles and might never win again. Recently, that’s led to a lot of overconfidence from the winning party and a desire for them to do too much while in power or in their messaging. I think the Dems did precisely that over the last 4 years.

Are Republicans now on the verge of doing the same? Will they push back on this kind of messaging that appears intentionally to have a sinister double meaning? Because if stuff like that his continues, they will poison the well (even more) with a generation of women voters.

I think that we have an overly online group of people in the country. I have seen one guy online post that comment and he is a racist douche canoe. I imagine there have been some other lovely trolls here and there saying that phrase but people need to get offline. It isn't reality.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 76-1
Trump and Vance just won. They have four years in front of them. I don't think it would cost them a thing to come out and say that messaging is counter productive, let's pick another.
To do so would suggest they have any equity in the messaging to begin with.

And I don’t think they do. Nick Fuentes is a kook and I just don’t buy into the notion that politicians should feel obliged to denounce things that random people say.

I would think differently if he did have any equity in it - if it was said by somebody on their campaign or something like that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: snarlcakes
To do so would suggest they have any equity in the messaging to begin with.

And I don’t think they do. Nick Fuentes is a kook and I just don’t buy into the notion that politicians should feel obliged to denounce things that random people say.

I would think differently if he did have any equity in it - if it was said by somebody on their campaign or something like that.
* And, yes, I’m aware that Kanye West brought Fuentes along with him to dinner at Trump’s.
 
I am clearly no fan of Trump or the Trump fanboys, but here’s the major problem I see. The normal Rs that voted Trump want to see certain conservative policies implemented and serious attention to the deficit, inflation, etc. However Trump and the fanboys are much more interested in trolling and sticking their fingers in peoples eyes. They love to cackle and howl about pissing people off and don’t really care about actually accomplishing anything of importance. Mainly because they just don’t care about any of that.
 
I am clearly no fan of Trump or the Trump fanboys, but here’s the major problem I see. The normal Rs that voted Trump want to see certain conservative policies implemented and serious attention to the deficit, inflation, etc. However Trump and the fanboys are much more interested in trolling and sticking their fingers in peoples eyes. They love to cackle and howl about pissing people off and don’t really care about actually accomplishing anything of importance. Mainly because they just don’t care about any of that.



These are the types of things the working class wants to see accomplished by Congress.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cortez88
Four things will happen:

1. Secure the border and deport the illegals
2. Rebuild the economy
3. Rebuild the military and stop the pointless wars
4. Burn the deep state to the ground

More than that obviously but those I can guarantee.
 
Four things will happen:

1. Secure the border and deport the illegals
2. Rebuild the economy
3. Rebuild the military and stop the pointless wars
4. Burn the deep state to the ground

More than that obviously but those I can guarantee.
That would be a great political platform if they can do it. The Dems will do everything to be obstructionist on this wonderful agenda.
 



These are the types of things the working class wants to see accomplished by Congress.
Only to married couples with the Father in the home...otherwise we have a generation of wards of the state.
No thanks...
 
For the last 30 years, it feels like after every election or two we get a spate of articles and public sentiment about how one party is dead or in shambles and might never win again. Recently, that’s led to a lot of overconfidence from the winning party and a desire for them to do too much while in power or in their messaging. I think the Dems did precisely that over the last 4 years.

Are Republicans now on the verge of doing the same? Will they push back on this kind of messaging that appears intentionally to have a sinister double meaning? Because if stuff like that his continues, they will poison the well (even more) with a generation of women voters.

That article is a crock. There might be GOP overconfidence, and I think many are reading too much into the election, but neither has anything to do with “Your body my choice”. That’s just BS. The clowns who wrote and published that article are a large reason why the Democrats lost and they don’t even understand it. The era of using sex or other immutable characteristics as a political cudgel could finally be over. This election showed most of the electorate is focused on issues that cut across all those lines. Safety, jobs, drugs, border, war. Etc.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT