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Reality check for the anti-Beard folks…

Oh you’re an idiot. I’m telling all you holier than though people who say I would never hit a woman. Bullshit! If you were drunk and in a really bad mood and your girlfriend or wife kept nagging you over and over and then decided to hit you, you might hit back and to say you would never is a lie. You don’t know what you would do if in that situation.
You just summarized Beard’s situation in one post. A drunk, with an anger problem, who can’t control his emotions. Nicely done.

Put a drunk, with anger problems, in a pressure cooker job like IU and he couldn’t handle.
 
You read like a guy who's done something really bad in his past and is overcompensating by being hyper pious on an easy social issue because you can't afford to have common sense anymore.
Forgot to pay a parking ticket once when I was in my 20’s and had my drivers license suspended for 30 days. Does that count?

You’re awful comfortable defending Beard…are any of your restraining orders still active?
 
Do you know him personally? No! So to call him a piece of shit just shows how big a piece of shit you are. If you don’t know a person and see how a person is and go off what others say about a person doesn’t make him a piece of shit. Stop judging people a-hole.
There’s a ton of people that lay hands on women that I’ve never met. And they all have one thing in common. They’re all pieces of shit.
 
I keep hearing this "wife beater" and "he beat his wife" plus "he attacked her" but yet in the police report and other accounts, nothing is there to prove he actually struck her, or did any of the "attacking". She said something along the lines of "I broke his glasses and things escalated from there" but that doesn't mean HE escalated things. Maybe he was trying to get away from her and there was only one way out? I'm not advocating for CB and I'm not condoning DV, but I keep hearing things that sound like conjecture or at the minimum, over-dramatic analysis.
Yeah he was such a victim here. Fired with-cause from Texas and didn’t even put up a fight. Somebody who was “defending” themselves surely would have fought to keep their dream job and the $25 million he was owed.

He fought his fiance harder than he fought his case lol. He’s a scumbag who knew exactly what he did. Got lucky that his fiancé recanted her story to avoid legal prosecution and then went quietly into the night in hopes it all went away.
 
Yeah he was such a victim here. Fired with-cause from Texas and didn’t even put up a fight. Somebody who was “defending” themselves surely would have fought to keep their dream job and the $25 million he was owed.

He fought his fiance harder than he fought his case lol. He’s a scumbag who knew exactly what he did. Got lucky that his fiancé recanted her story to avoid legal prosecution and then went quietly into the night in hopes it all went away.
I"m not defending CB. I don't know what went on anymore than you do. I fully admit there are some red flags here, and leaving the buyout on the table is something he definitely should explain. I'm just saying that there is a lot of conjecture floating around here........well........and here ^ it is.
 
It was a free X spaces. Us IU fans are starving for anything on this coaching search. Dolson's circle is keeping things really tight. I, for one, have been wanting Beard at IU since the last coaching cycle!
Would you not prefer real information instead of something that is highly unlikely and potentially purposeful put out for views, clicks and followers?? It's not going to happen and I do not think it is fair to give people like yourself false hope.
 
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IU has a coach right now. The BTT hasn't even started and the NCAA selections haven't been made either. IU isn't going to generate controversy and distractions for the university by addressing the coaching search or vacancy. While that makes total sense....it also makes total sense that the coaching change and buyout will happen in an efficient and timely manner, regardless of how this season concludes.
 
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Drew would be a great hire buy I'm guessing a few posters would still like their minds because he isn't pure enough.
On paper....Drew is a homerun hire......won a Natty, successful, long term coaching experience at the highest level, no disqualifying baggage. I understand the hype and motivation for Beard. He too qualifies as a homerun, with baggage. I think McCollum is right there, with a winning percentage of .818 over his career and multiple Div II titles. His long term, consistent winning ways puts him in the top tier, imo. Having said all of that....I would be surprised if the ultimate hire is any of those guys.
 
IU would take some initial press heat if they hire Beard. Let the PR team handle it, whatever.

After a few Ws it would be all forgotten. Just have some good “out” clauses in his contract if he does something crazy.

It’s just hard to believe that the program that dealt with RMK’s insane temper for years is so gun shy now. Ridiculous.
 
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You just summarized Beard’s situation in one post. A drunk, with an anger problem, who can’t control his emotions. Nicely done.

Put a drunk, with anger problems, in a pressure cooker job like IU and he couldn’t handle.
I personally know Beard and he is not how you describe him at all. Don’t let the truth slow your crusade….. carry on 🙄
 
Would you not prefer real information instead of something that is highly unlikely and potentially purposeful put out for views, clicks and followers?? It's not going to happen and I do not think it is fair to give people like yourself false hope.
I have zero idea of this info is credible but an interest in Beard does make sense on several levels. One is that IU is getting rid of a "good coach". To justify that, you need to replace him with a home run hire. Chris Beard is that level of a coach. Take a look at what he has been able to do with rosters that have lots of holes and little depth. He consistently gets everything out of each player and each team. The others mentioned on these message boards are safer but their ceiling isn't even close. He has done it at multiple places and he quickly builds a winning culture. The fact that he learned coaching from Coach Knight is a nice bonus too.

I get that no one truly knows what Scott Dolson is going to do.
 
IU would take some initial press heat if they hire Beard. Let the PR team handle it, whatever.

After a few Ws it would be all forgotten. Just have some good “out” clauses in his contract if he does something crazy.

It’s just hard to believe that the program that dealt with RMK’s insane temper for years is so gun shy now. Ridiculous.
I'm not worried about the beard hire any negative stuff would go away fast if he won. A few posters would have meltdowns but who cares. They got a personal vendetta against him anyway. And any of these clowns who say we want him because he is a knight guy I could care less. I just want a winner who will actually want to be here. I don't think archie actually ever wanted to be here
 
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I could support any of Drew, TJO, Beard, McCasland, or McCollum. I think Wade would kill it, but feels like the same patch as Sampson. But, I think we'll be VASTLY improved if we hire from that group.
I will support anybody but it will be very hard to sell McCollum on the fanbase with a slow pace offense no team the last 10 years has won a championship without a adjusted offense as bad McCollum coaches you have to be good on both sides.
 
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I will support anybody but it will be very hard to sell McCollum on the fanbase with a slow pace offense no team the last 10 years has won a championship without a adjusted offense as bad McCollum coaches you have to be good on both sides.

So Dolson can take this approach:


The Assistants will be a key component of the hire... Bob Knight was smart enough to mix pure talent in with guys who wouldn't question him much... (and allowed questions as long as it was off the court in private)...

If McCollum can find the right mix of guys he's completely comfortable with while bringing in a savant/soon to be head coach (as an Offensive Coordinator) that he doesn't know all that well he might really be onto something...

Based on his current staff make up that type of approach doesn't seem to scare him... Looks to me like he's a guy who Coaches his offensive schemes based on the talent he's working with... Give him some better talent along with an Offensive "genius" as an Assistant and the future will be so bright we'll have to wear shades... 😉

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So Dolson can take this approach:


The Assistants will be a key component of the hire... Bob Knight was smart enough to mix pure talent in with guys who wouldn't question him much... (and allowed questions as long as it was off the court in private)...

If McCollum can find the right mix of guys he's completely comfortable with while bringing in a savant/soon to be head coach (as an Offensive Coordinator) that he doesn't know all that well he might really be onto something...

Based on his current staff make up that type of approach doesn't seem to scare him... Looks to me like he's a guy who Coaches his offensive schemes based on the talent he's working with... Give him some better talent along with an Offensive "genius" as an Assistant and the future will be so bright we'll have to wear shades... 😉

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Its clear we are hiring mccoullum to some and he is the next bo ryan no doubt. we can expect certain wins because thats what this hire has to do to and fans demand it. Those pushing for him better expect he better win right away.
 
I will support anybody but it will be very hard to sell McCollum on the fanbase with a slow pace offense no team the last 10 years has won a championship without a adjusted offense as bad McCollum coaches you have to be good on both sides.
I know what will win over fans: winning. Personally, I love a team that plays fiercely and clamps down on their opponent, and I believe you can win more than one way. I just know if everyone starts playing the same way, then that's more likely to become the formula you see. But, if we are winning B10 championships, and a NC and being nationally relevant, I know I'll support them if it's 39-38 and our average win margin is 1pt and I believe we'll have a very supportive fanbase. I think the bigger concern with that, isn't fans, but do players see that as a path that gets them to the NBA.
 
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Its clear we are hiring mccoullum to some and he is the next bo ryan no doubt. we can expect certain wins because thats what this hire has to do to and fans demand it. Those pushing for him better expect he better win right away.

I don't think it's clear as to who we're hiring (aside from it sounding like it won't be Beard)...

I'm fine with McCollum because it sure looks like:
A) he can actually Coach and have what he's teaching translate to the floor and to W's...
B) he's most likely actually available versus several of the fantasy names out there.
 
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Its clear we are hiring mccoullum to some and he is the next bo ryan no doubt. we can expect certain wins because thats what this hire has to do to and fans demand it. Those pushing for him better expect he better win right away.

With anyone we bring in (even that mythical Great White Whale, B.S.) I'd expect that they be given year One just to clean up the mess and get Their program up and running...

In year 2 we should expect to compete for a Big Ten Regular Season Championship and in year 3 a very deep run in the NCAA tournament...; from that point on Championship play is to be expected...

Now that's a tough job description...

Expecting anyone to come in and win big year one seems a big ask.. (and yeah I know what what Cignetti just did [finding another one of those types is a Big Ask]...)...
 
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With anyone we bring in (even that mythical Great White Whale, B.S.) I'd expect that they be given year One just to clean up the mess and get Their program up and running...

In year 2 we should expect to compete for a Big Ten Regular Season Championship and in year 3 a very deep run in the NCAA tournament...; from that point on Championship play is to be expected...

Now that's a tough job description...

Expecting anyone to come in and win big year one seems a big ask.. (and yeah I know what Knight did and what Cignetti just did [finding another one of those types is a Big Ask]...)...
Let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves..
Coach Woodson just made the comment yesterday “Maybe I might be leaving too soon”. Sounds like there might be possible re-negotiations coming up.🙀
 
I know what will win over fans: winning. Personally, I love a team that plays fiercely and clamps down on their opponent, and I believe you can win more than one way. I just know if everyone starts playing the same way, then that's more likely to become the formula you see. But, if we are winning B10 championships, and a NC and being nationally relevant, I know I'll support them if it's 39-38 and our average win margin is 1pt and I believe we'll have a very supportive fanbase. I think the bigger concern with that, isn't fans, but do players see that as a path that gets them to the NBA.
The more I dig into McCollum I’m going to bet he is a who he has as personnel offense type. If his recruiting gets better I bet he opens it up more.
 
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Expecting anyone to come in and win big year one seems a big ask..
Why? Louisville, UK and Michigan did it. Portal and a coach who knows the type he needs can win year one. I’d argue Michigan and Louisville were dumpster fires. IU is not.
 
Why? Louisville, UK and Michigan did it. Portal and a coach who knows the type he needs can win year one. I’d argue Michigan and Louisville were dumpster fires. IU is not.
What constitutes a "dumpster fire": new coach and virtually all new roster? That seems like UM and UL, and what we're likely gonna be next year.
 
What constitutes a "dumpster fire": new coach and virtually all new roster? That seems like UM and UL, and what we're likely gonna be next year.
The prior coaching staffs had degraded the program’s to 8-24 records and 30% ticket sales. Those two coaches had no rosters and little fan interest at all. Not the case for our next coach. You look at those programs and what those new coaches have done. Not sure why it's so hard to understand.
 
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She's a 6' ish former volleyball player who said she'd not disagree with Beard's description that it was self-defense. Have you ever seen a woman come totally unglued and attack someone? She's very likely going to get visible injuries. Tell me exactly how you are certain her injuries were from spousal abuse and not an altercation from self-defense? And, why you are a better judge of what happened, than I don't know, let's say the 2 people who were actually involved? It's unseemly for sure, but as I've said dozens of times: hire an investigator and see if all these other cases of abuse and drunken behavior exist. If they do: move on. If they don't and it's down to this 1 case, then you sit down and talk with him and see if he can convince you that he's remorseful and has made changes that reflect it (stopped drinking, AA and seeing the woman for instance). Again, if you're not convinced, move on and if you are, then consider him further as a candidate.
I run a manufacturing plant that hires disabled people, people that want to work but can't work at a conventional place. I also hire people in work release looking to rebuild their work history.

A recent hire (a first cousin to one of IU's best player in history) was arrested with news reports that he committed rape with a deadly weapon.You can search and find that original story complete with mugshot and jump to the conclusion he was guilty. He was guilty of a crime, but it wasn't rape. He has turned out to be a good worker, cooperative, and positive so far.

Like my employee, I would expect Beard will do everything possible to leave his past behind. Beard has more to lose if he ever does anything that resembles what has been reported.Also like my employee, his situation was over charged and over publicized.

I don't know if Beard is the one we hire. His past personal issues doesn't concern me.
 
Why? Louisville, UK and Michigan did it. Portal and a coach who knows the type he needs can win year one. I’d argue Michigan and Louisville were dumpster fires. IU is not.

Well the roster the next guy will be inheriting is made of guys who when they were starting combined for multiple double digit losses this past season... We're losses our starting C and the entire three Guard lineup who've put us back in the Tournament conversation...

If he stays, Reneu might be a guy you can build a winning roster around... Mgbako is erratic at best, the two All-Hype Guards are overrated and extremely overpaid, Tucker was a waste of a scholarship and everyone else is either a walk on or coming back off a season ending injury...

How anyone figures that's a nucleus for an early winner sort of confuses me... (but I hope they're right and I'm wrong)...

Here's this years group:

 
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Well the roster the next guy will be inheriting is made of guys who when the were starting combined for multiple double digit losses this past season... We're losses our starting C and the entire three Guard lineup who've put us back in the Tournament conversation...

If he stays, Reneu might be a guy you can build a winning roster around... Mgbako is erratic at best, the two All-Hype Guards are overrated and extremely overpaid, Tucker was a waste of a scholarship and everyone else is either a walk on or coming back off a season ending injury...

How anyone figures that's a nucleus for an early winner sort of confuses me... (but I hope they're right and I'm wrong)...
Your talent evaluation leaves as much to be desired as Woodson’s developmental abilities.
 
The prior coaching staffs had degraded the program’s to 8-24 records and 30% ticket sales. Those two coaches had no rosters and little fan interest at all. Not the case for our next coach. You look at those programs and what those new coaches have done. Not sure why it's so hard to understand.
It's not, but we're really in the same spot as them. We're going to have a new coach and almost entirely new roster. We have great fans and I've always said that, but if a new coach bombs, even if we're better than UL or UM last year, it won't change the outcome for the new coach. We've got to go get an entirely new roster too. It's not a "dumpster fire" only because we have better fans and NIL.
 
It's not, but we're really in the same spot as them. We're going to have a new coach and almost entirely new roster. We have great fans and I've always said that, but if a new coach bombs, even if we're better than UL or UM last year, it won't change the outcome for the new coach. We've got to go get an entirely new roster too. It's not a "dumpster fire" only because we have better fans and NIL.
That’s my point. They were in the same boat but Michigan and Louisville could’ve by some, me included been worse off. I’m saying if those schools can do it so can our next coach. 3 examples right there.
 
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