Interesting take on Odom. lol I’d have put him above Locks as well as Braun.
I'd move Rhule, Riley, and Franklin down fleck and schiano up.
I don’t disagree on Franklin. But it’s hard to argue with 34-8 over the past 3 years. His biggest downfall is he can’t win a big game.
OK, let's be honest, wait and see what Cig does in the next few years. We have only a one-year sample so far. Indiana had a great year in 2024 but........
Yet he just made the final 4 and hired maybe the best DC in college football and might be the favorites to win it all next year given what they have coming back. Can he actually win a big game now…
Weird that the JV team of a non playoff team from the second best conference would be top 4.
I guess guys like Day, Franklin and Lanning always get to the top, but they have so much talent to work with at their schools. Of course they are responsible for recruiting that talent but that is also so much easier at those schools. Therefore I tend to think that given the environment they are in I would give Cig and Bret a lot more credit for winning at a tougher school to acquire talent.
Not held against them. They do get the job done. Just not the hill to climb that others have to deal with.
Isn’t that smaller hill created by the HC? It’s not the program itself if so then why did Miami, Nebraska and USC fall off? Day benefited by following Meyer but that was 6 years ago. There wasn’t one kid on that team that won the NC that played for Meyer. For years Kirby Smart was considered an overrated coach until he won a title. Now Sark and Franklin are overrated, until they win. Lanning has yet to win but I think it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to tell he’s a rockstar and it’s not a question of if but when he finally wins one.
Is Day really better than Moore at UM? He's never beat him, and Harbaugh owned Day at the end. There are a lot of coaches that could have won with OSU this year and beat UM to boot.
Is it easier to recruit to Ohio State or Indiana?
That super OSU roster was built under Day and there are other schools with mega NIL (for example Oregon, Texas, A&M, UGA) and they didn’t get it done. I’ve got to give Day a lot of credit. Just my opinion I don’t care to fight over this.
In this case, both coaches produced.
Yup but with circumstances that led to a healthy talent gap between the 2 teams.
When we talk about rating coaches, football or otherwise, I think about what Bum Phillips said about Chuck Noll. He could take his'n and beat your'n and take your'n and beat his'n.
