Hard to say but I’m proud of the Vols coaching staff. QB signed for $2M (?)NIL and now wants double that. Sat out spring practice so the coaching staff said they were moving on without him. Hopefully there won’t be some idiotic program pay him what he wants. But I’m sure there will be. It would be great if all the coaching staffs would just say no and move on from some of these greedy jerks.
Proud of Tennessee
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And his name would be appropriate. I am a leava(ing).
TN took a gamble paying him $2mil as a frosh and it paid off but it was a gamble. If the kid was really good (like he was) then it would work in their favor but if he was Hunter Johnson, they couldn't claw that money back.
I get why the kid would do this because he knows his current value. From afar, it seems like he negotiated disingenuous but then again, we weren't in the room and programs are well aware deals are all for 1 year. This is within the rules for him to do this but I agree it needs to be regulated to mitigate these situations. It deteriorates the sport.
With that said, the kid is now a proven talent at the highest level so teams will surely pay him knowing it's not as much of a gamble, but they'll also know it's a 1 year deal.
I get why the kid would do this because he knows his current value. From afar, it seems like he negotiated disingenuous but then again, we weren't in the room and programs are well aware deals are all for 1 year. This is within the rules for him to do this but I agree it needs to be regulated to mitigate these situations. It deteriorates the sport.
With that said, the kid is now a proven talent at the highest level so teams will surely pay him knowing it's not as much of a gamble, but they'll also know it's a 1 year deal.
Under the current system the players have all the leverage. But along those same lines, i know Scotus said you couldn't keep players from being paid but did they say anything about unlimited transfers?
I just saw that UCLA might go after him. Tino Sunsari might be getting a proven QB to start his OC career.
Didn't his high school brother commit to a west coast school?
What is the big deal? He just wanted to shake the school down for more money. It’s not like he improperly posed for a sorority house fundraising calendar..
Man, I disagree. Players still have barely any leverage. It's just that schools really, really want to win. And fans keep giving money when that happens. Iamaleava is gone to the NFL after this season, of course he's going to try to get his pay day. And it'll happen because a team with a middling quarterback will have donor money flow in to get a chance at the playoffs. Chasing money is lame but I can't blame college kids for getting their bread. We've been talking about players didn't come to play school and now they at least get to capitalize with something more tangible.
I think it will level out at some point and cases like this are why. The bubble will pop for kids pushing their NIL deals and I think we'll find a status quo similar to whatever was happening before this with bagmen. Coaches could be setting an example for their players by taking pay cuts to not be the highest paid state employee and sticking around for their contract length.
I'm not one of those guys living in the past, but if I were Coaching, I wouldn't touch this Kid. Ability is one thing, Character is another. There is such a thing as Addition by Subtraction. There comes a point where Your antics and attitude become so distracting and poisonous that the Team is better off without You.
Football is different than basketball in terms of NIL. With over 100 Scholarship Players and only so much money, things can get a little thin as You spread the money around. In basketball, with fewer players on a team, and a game where it is easier to see and measure the contribution of a player to a team, the decisions are easier. You may be the best Quarterback in the World and We could give You the key to the campus. But if You get paid Megabucks and We don't have enough Money to attract Quality Offensive Linemen, How good are You going to be with a lineup of Walk Ons blocking for You? I have seen this kid play on TV several times, and IMO, He isn't $4 million a year good.
And then there is the question of how much is enough. I don't begrudge anybody making as much Money as possible. But once You sign an Agreement and take the initial Money You are bound by the terms of the contract. If Your solution is to pick up Your ball and go Home when You don't get Your way, I'm not interested in You and paying You $ 4 million to expose my team to your lack of integrity.
Football is different than basketball in terms of NIL. With over 100 Scholarship Players and only so much money, things can get a little thin as You spread the money around. In basketball, with fewer players on a team, and a game where it is easier to see and measure the contribution of a player to a team, the decisions are easier. You may be the best Quarterback in the World and We could give You the key to the campus. But if You get paid Megabucks and We don't have enough Money to attract Quality Offensive Linemen, How good are You going to be with a lineup of Walk Ons blocking for You? I have seen this kid play on TV several times, and IMO, He isn't $4 million a year good.
And then there is the question of how much is enough. I don't begrudge anybody making as much Money as possible. But once You sign an Agreement and take the initial Money You are bound by the terms of the contract. If Your solution is to pick up Your ball and go Home when You don't get Your way, I'm not interested in You and paying You $ 4 million to expose my team to your lack of integrity.
Then it’s getting to be like the NFL. Look how the QBs are getting these massive contracts then the team doesn’t have enough money to either keep their O linemen or doesn’t have the money to get good free agents to protect him. Flacco was a good example years ago after winning the Super Bowl. Team went down hill and he as well. Burrows would be another example. And his highly paid receivers won’t help get the linemen to protect him either.
He is reportedly going to UNC to play for a deal around $3.5 million for, in his own words “the GOAT.”
National (Fox sports or something) radio driving in this morning said "he was reportedly going to UNC for all of five seconds yesterday". So they were thinking it was off.
Ding……
I don’t care what he thinks he’s worth or what the market says you “may be worth”.
I’m sick of it.
He has an 80 yr life and apparently a
5 year earning window. What’s his degree?
Who awarded it? Who’s gaming who?
Is it a usable thing if indeed he is awarded it?
Earn a dollar — have 40/30 cents to spend.
Anyone else one here capable of understanding this?
The whole situation seems silly. Tennessee has put the previous 2 QBs in the NFL. The Dad presumably tells him to hold out of the spring game for purposes of leverage. Tennessee walks away and in the process screws themselves since they have a team that should have been better this coming year. The kid screws himself out of money and the odds are he finds himself in a situation that's less conducive to success at the next level.
An absolute 💩 show all the way around.
An absolute 💩 show all the way around.
I think the kid could be really really good. But he hurt himself with this. His loss. I'll bet he gets about what he was getting from Tennessee though or a bit more. NIL inflation seems to show up daily.
Tennessee will bounce back. Sounds like they dealt with it Cig style.
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Tennessee will bounce back. Sounds like they dealt with it Cig style.
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I understand thru the grapevine, his top bid is 1M so he'll take a loss by moving away from Tenn.(2.5M)
I've heard similar. I read something from one of the services that said there were several schools that would jump in if he adjusted his NIL expectations to either around or under 1.5m.
Weird move, he’s gonna lose $ and play somewhere worse.
Schools deserve all this too. They fought for so long to not pay players so they could hoard all the money, and it took legal action to get players paid. And this resulted in this crappy NIL/rev share/portal structure vs a real pro league with collective bargaining/real contracts. Personally I don’t feel bad for anyone. Just an observation.
This scenario was bound to happen sooner or later. Didn’t think it would happen this soon though.
A kid and his handler/dad think he’s worth more than what they agreed to just over a year ago. School walks away saying “not what we agreed to…see ya!!” Hopefully he learns a hard lesson about over playing his hand as it sure seems he’ll be hard pressed to get what he was already getting.
And does anyone know this? Was his sign on bonus paid up front in full or was it to be spread out over the 4 years? If paid up front, wonder if UT has recourse to recoup?
A kid and his handler/dad think he’s worth more than what they agreed to just over a year ago. School walks away saying “not what we agreed to…see ya!!” Hopefully he learns a hard lesson about over playing his hand as it sure seems he’ll be hard pressed to get what he was already getting.
And does anyone know this? Was his sign on bonus paid up front in full or was it to be spread out over the 4 years? If paid up front, wonder if UT has recourse to recoup?
It wasn't UT's money. It was the money of whatever NIL funding source. That's the pisser in all this. It was ultimately the fan's money. I thought this was spot on.
So most articles are saying UCLA and for a lot less than he was getting at Tennessee like many here said. I figured he wouldn't have quit unless they had back door assurances. Why I figured 2.5 still had a shot. What a maroon.
If Tino can get Nico's head back to football, they'll do well.
ESPN and Yahoo saying the UCLA QB Aguilar team is making calls to other schools now to cover his bases.
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If Tino can get Nico's head back to football, they'll do well.
ESPN and Yahoo saying the UCLA QB Aguilar team is making calls to other schools now to cover his bases.
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Now according to Fox Sports (Cowherd) his family said he wanted to leave because of the offense. Pretty stupid considering UCLA was ranked 14th in the BIG while the Vols O was ranked 4th and averaged over 100 yards more a game than UCLA. I think someone called someone’s bluff and screwed himself.
The offense is clearly a fake reason, but technically Tennessee runs an offense pro scouts don’t think much of (single read for QB, etc.) and UCLA is more pro style or whatever.
But, this is all a silly narrative from Nico’s side.
But, this is all a silly narrative from Nico’s side.
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