So you can’t do it. Noted. Pleasure as always.maturity isn't your strong suit...although neither is intelligence.
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So you can’t do it. Noted. Pleasure as always.maturity isn't your strong suit...although neither is intelligence.
All of these young people didn't just wake up this way one day. And it didn't just start 4 or 8 years ago.
I can't help but lay some of the blame for the youth's reaction to this at the feet of CRT in the schools. And by CRT, I mean postmodernism dressed up in identity politics that focuses religiously (i.e. takes it as axiomatic and refuses to discuss or debate the issue) on oppresser v. oppressed, with people with less melatonin on the wrong side of that divide.
Again--the majority of these young people aren't siding this way because they are antisemitic--they are siding this way because the Palestinians have darker skin and more poverty, and thus are the more moral group under their religion, who deserve to do whatever they need to do to end the oppression, colonization, etc. What happens to the rest of the world as people start normalizing and excusing Hamas's tactics in the name of decolonization, ending oppression, etc?
As I read what I just typed, I'm really conflicted about whether it's a valid critique or not. Am I just conflating two movements that I really despise into one, laying the blame of the second at the feet of the first?
So would you be fighting for "Israel" or for Zionist settlers, who are guilty of terrorist acts over the years as well?
The nation of Israel.So would you be fighting for "Israel" or for Zionist settlers, who are guilty of terrorist acts over the years as well?
They evidently don't realize they attacked the same police force that save Democracy on J6.Six members of law enforcement injured after pro Palestinian protests outside the DNC headquarters yesterday.
Pro-Palestinian violent protest erupts outside DNC headquarters in Washington DC, Capitol police injured
Law enforcement in Washington D.C. faced off against a group of at least 150 "illegally and violently" pro-Palestinian protesters outside the DNC headquarters in Washington D.C.www.foxnews.com
Insurrection?
Democrats being Democrats. Suddenly, the mob turns on their masters.
Perhaps allowing crazy activists (majority mentally ill women) to take over a significant portion of the party wasn’t the best idea.
How many Palestinians do you know who don't support Hamas.For those who can't think real good, yes.
One of my good friends is an Egyptian immigrant. He wanted out of Egypt. His view on the region and the Israeli/Palestinian conflict would probably blow your mind.How many Palestinians do you know who don't support Hamas.
And I don't want to hear about your cousin Larry's Arab friend from Egypt.
So you can't name any Palestinians who aren't pro-Hamas.One of my good friends is an Egyptian immigrant. He wanted out of Egypt. His view on the region and the Israeli/Palestinian conflict would probably blow your mind.
What do you mean he isn't mature? He's changed his screen name inumerable times. If that isn't a sign of maturity, then I don't know what is...maturity isn't your strong suit...although neither is intelligence.
That was a mostly solid take. @BradStevens I saw it posted before, but lars was kind enough to post the transcript, which meant I could read it while I was in an insufferable conference call.Listened to this recently. Guy has an amazingly soothing podcast voice. Lays out his argument very well.
Latest Episodes | Honestly Podcast
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Transcript if you prefer to read it.
Sam Harris | The Bright Line Between Good and Evil
Transcript of podcast episode #340www.samharris.org
Well DANC liked your post, so that should be the first clue how ludicrous your assertions are...Ugh. Those people are the worst. Self-loathing, secular clowns that pull their Jew badge out of the closet when it's time to stand for a perceived progressive cause. As evidenced by the number of them that were wearing their Tallit incorrectly in Grand Central station a few weeks ago.
You'd be hard pressed to find a Jew who is Reformed or more practicing who would call for a ceasefire. No one at that march has seen the inside of a synagogue in 20 years.
As someone who went through grad school and studied critical theory, I don't think it's about skin color. I think it's more about East/West and North/South, and while skin color can certainly play a role in that, I think the embrace of the Palestinian cause by Marxist academic types isn't really about the brownness of their skin, and instead is more about the Europeanness and Americanness of the original Zionist leaders. Colonialism might not matter to the jihadis, but it's a huge part of the theoretical foundation of the type of thinking you're criticizing. Even when they talk about race, it's colored by colonialism - the British invade Asia and feminize Asian men; the Spanish invade Africa and kidnap people into slavery. Skin is a big part of that, but the exertion of colonial power is always at the center of it.All of these young people didn't just wake up this way one day. And it didn't just start 4 or 8 years ago.
I can't help but lay some of the blame for the youth's reaction to this at the feet of CRT in the schools. And by CRT, I mean postmodernism dressed up in identity politics that focuses religiously (i.e. takes it as axiomatic and refuses to discuss or debate the issue) on oppresser v. oppressed, with people with less melatonin on the wrong side of that divide.
Again--the majority of these young people aren't siding this way because they are antisemitic--they are siding this way because the Palestinians have darker skin and more poverty, and thus are the more moral group under their religion, who deserve to do whatever they need to do to end the oppression, colonization, etc. What happens to the rest of the world as people start normalizing and excusing Hamas's tactics in the name of decolonization, ending oppression, etc?
As I read what I just typed, I'm really conflicted about whether it's a valid critique or not. Am I just conflating two movements that I really despise into one, laying the blame of the second at the feet of the first?
Critical theory =\=Critical Race TheoryAs someone who went through grad school and studied critical theory, I don't think it's about skin color. I think it's more about East/West and North/South, and while skin color can certainly play a role in that, I think the embrace of the Palestinian cause by Marxist academic types isn't really about the brownness of their skin, and instead is more about the Europeanness and Americanness of the original Zionist leaders. Colonialism might not matter to the jihadis, but it's a huge part of the theoretical foundation of the type of thinking you're criticizing. Even when they talk about race, it's colored by colonialism - the British invade Asia and feminize Asian men; the Spanish invade Africa and kidnap people into slavery. Skin is a big part of that, but the exertion of colonial power is always at the center of it.
I know they aren't, I've been trying to explain what they are to this forum for a couple of years, now. But, what you're deriding is a much broader version of CRT, which is ultimately just another implementation of a left-leaning academic school that goes back through critical theory, feminism, postcolonialism, etc. ultimately to Karl Marx.Critical theory =\=Critical Race Theory
I’m not a fan of either, but they aren’t equivalent.
When you have a chance will you put that in the movie and book thread? I always go back to it when I’m looking for something,Everyone should read Disgrace by JM Coetzee. It’s themes are relevant here. It’s a short book and I found it disturbing.
He is an antisemite pure and simple. You’re arguing with someone that hates Jews, therefore don’t waste your breath. You’re not changing his hate.There you go with that phony equivalency again. Only one side needs to grow up and join the 21st century here. You fight a cancer with chemo which often adversely affects healthy cells. Hamas is a cancer. Conservative treatment failed.
The large majority of my Jewish friends who have been posting on social media since OCT. 7 are not antiPalestinian at all. They post things like this: You can save space for the Israeli hostages and Palestinian civilians. We should be working together to save both from the existential threat that is Hamas.Not all Jews, or even Israelis are radically anti-Palestinian...
This is based on reports from Israeli media not pro-Palestinian sources.There's a huge difference between Israel defending itself, and the outrages discussed here...Bibi made a deal with the Devil to get back into power when the majority of Israelis wanted him gone...
That's entirely uncalled for.He is an antisemite pure and simple. You’re arguing with someone that hates Jews, therefore don’t waste your breath. You’re not changing his hate.
the answer is no, pro-Hamas does not equal pro-Palestinian, Children or children, there is death and destruction on both sides.For those who can't think real good, yes.
I’ve read enough of his posts on the subject.That's entirely uncalled for.
Mas has literally espoused Nazi propaganda on this forum.I’ve read enough of his posts on the subject.
Have you chastised anyone for calling Mass a Nazi, ever?
That’s a really good listen.Listened to this recently. Guy has an amazingly soothing podcast voice. Lays out his argument very well.
Latest Episodes | Honestly Podcast
www.honestlypod.com
Transcript if you prefer to read it.
Sam Harris | The Bright Line Between Good and Evil
Transcript of podcast episode #340www.samharris.org
Your party is causing rampant hate of Jews right now. There’s no let up. It’s getting out of hand. The guy you’re defending in your rebuke of me is showing his hand as far as I am concerned. It’s time for these folks to be called out just like racists are called out.Mas has literally espoused Nazi propaganda on this forum.
He stood by idly while his peeps declared anyone that didn’t agree with them racists. A hypocrite of the highest order….I’ve read enough of his posts on the subject.
Have you chastised anyone for calling Mass a Nazi, ever?
I thought that was the US Military's job?The nation of Israel.
How about you?
On the contrary, I think interpretation of the scripture is vital.That was a mostly solid take. @BradStevens I saw it posted before, but lars was kind enough to post the transcript, which meant I could read it while I was in an insufferable conference call.
I don't necessarily agree with his theoretical model for why the Muslim world gave rise to jihadism, or how important a particular interpretation of a particular set of scriptures might be (I don't find it very relevant that Muhammad chopped off heads while Jesus didn't). But, that doesn't matter much, because he still arrives at the right conclusion, which I think is inescapable: jihadism is indeed the enemy of all modern civilization, and it must eventually be defeated. You can recognize that reality without infringing on someone's religious rights.
Like the summer of love when democrats burned a police station, burned businesses, looted businesses and assaulted people, all was good.He stood by idly while his peeps declared anyone that didn’t agree with them racists. A hypocrite of the highest order….
I'm an amateur historian at best, but haven't other militaries used suicide attacks? Japan, NV/VC in Vietnam. I could be wrong, but I thought part of the reason Palestinians used suicide bombings is limited resources.I think they did. Whether it's every suicide bomber, it's the vast vast majority. they truly believe this shit. They say it out loud. I think we should believe them.
That seems very relevant to me.I don't find it very relevant that Muhammad chopped off heads while Jesus didn't
Do certain posters on here have to turn every discussion into an attack on posters and a crude right/left fight? There was a good discussion taking place.Like the summer of love when democrats burned a police station, burned businesses, looted businesses and assaulted people, all was good.
Now no democratic outrage over these types of things being caused by attitudes like the attitudes of some on here.
Moorpark professor arrested in death of Jewish protester Paul Kessler in Thousand Oaks
Loay Abdelfattah Alnaji, a college professor, is arrested on suspicion of involuntary manslaughter in the death of Jewish protester Paul Kessler.www.latimes.com
Cornell student accused of threatening to kill Jewish students will remain behind bars | CNN
The Cornell University student accused of posting online threats to kill members of the university’s Jewish community appeared in federal court Wednesday and was ordered to remain behind bars for the time being.amp.cnn.com
Opinion | Anti-Semitism Poisons America
Attacks on Jews are also attacks on our ideals of liberalism and pluralism.www.wsj.com
No it wasn’t. I’ve heard your Jewish hate enough the last few days. You can only say it so many ways.Do certain posters on here have to turn every discussion into an attack on posters and a crude right/left fight? There was a good discussion taking place.
That is a ridiculous accusation. Critical of Israel? Sure. I'm not a prejudiced person.No it wasn’t. I’ve heard your Jewish hate enough the last few days. You can only say it so many ways
Okay. Carry on the hate.That is a ridiculous accusation. Critical of Israel? Sure. I'm not a prejudiced person.
Carry on not knowing your ass from a hole in the ground and ruining debate.Okay. Carry on the hate.
Carry on with your antisemitism.Carry on not knowing your ass from a hole in the ground and ruining debate.
Do you have anything to add other than going after posters? I'm going to guess no.Carry on with your antisemitism.
Sure you are; you're prejudiced against religious people. You've written it all here.That is a ridiculous accusation. Critical of Israel? Sure. I'm not a prejudiced person.
I'm a big believer in the 1A. People can believe whatever they want to, as long as they are peaceful and leave it out of the government. I don't automatically dismiss people or their opinions just because they are a certain religion. I am not a fan of organized religion or the harm/violence it has done to humanity. I do find religion interesting.Sure you are; you're prejudiced against religious people. You've written it all here.
Ironically, the Palestinians as a group are more religious than the Israelis. Palestinian authorities lock up atheists, while Israel has a large percentage of them.
You should think about your conclusion.Okay. Carry on the hate.