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Politico: Roe to be overturned per draft opinion

This is not a big deal folks. The vast majority of women probably never have an abortion and those that do probably only do it once. Is it a big deal for us Hoosiers to drive to Illinois or Michigan to buy our weed every couple months? No. Driving out of state once in a lifetime to kill a baby isn't a big deal to the murderer either. They just lie and act like it is.
So why has this been such a plank in the conservative platform for decades? Doesn’t your reasoning above also apply to abortion being legal in every state?
 
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All this will do is lead to back alley abortions again and women will die. It won’t stop abortions .
From the data on the 26 nations that have outlawed abortions, most of which are 3rd world backwaters, we can anticipate that the total number of abortions performed will rise after the ban. Secondly, that many will be of the back alley type, Thirdly, that the poorest women will be subjected to the worst of the back alley treatments, with a disproportionate amount of women of color dead or suffering permanent disabilities.

If you really want to LOWER the frequency of abortions, the path is crystal clear. Better access to birth control, better sex education, and better education of women, especially in poorer areas.

Also, access to health care after a child is born.

But who cares about data, and science. That's all a liberal conspiracy by the "gespacho".
 
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This is not a big deal folks. The vast majority of women probably never have an abortion and those that do probably only do it once. Is it a big deal for us Hoosiers to drive to Illinois or Michigan to buy our weed every couple months? No. Driving out of state once in a lifetime to kill a baby isn't a big deal to the murderer either. They just lie and act like it is.
Agree. It's no biggie that addicts have to drive to Illinois or Michigan to get their fix.
 
This is not a big deal folks. The vast majority of women probably never have an abortion and those that do probably only do it once. Is it a big deal for us Hoosiers to drive to Illinois or Michigan to buy our weed every couple months? No. Driving out of state once in a lifetime to kill a baby isn't a big deal to the murderer either. They just lie and act like it is.
So you wouldn't mind driving to Kentucky to buy guns?
 
There’s some pretty clear language on guns in the constitution.

Where in the Constitution does it say you have a right to BUY guns? If we are to read it EXACTLY as written, it says you can own them and it says you can bear them, but EXACTLY as written it says nothing about buying. Nor does it mention ammunition. Nor does it say you have a right to ever discharge a weapon. If you are a literalist, where are you getting buying, firing, or ammunition from in the specific words used?
 
From the data on the 26 nations that have outlawed abortions, most of which are 3rd world backwaters, we can anticipate that the total number of abortions performed will rise after the ban. Secondly, that many will be of the back alley type, Thirdly, that the poorest women will be subjected to the worst of the back alley treatments, with a disproportionate amount of women of color dead or suffering permanent disabilities.

If you really want to LOWER the frequency of abortions, the path is crystal clear. Better access to birth control, better sex education, and better education of women, especially in pooer areas.

But who cares about data, and science. That's all a liberal conspiracy by the "gespacho".
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If you really want to LOWER the frequency of abortions, the path is crystal clear. Better access to birth control, better sex education, and better education of women, especially in pooer areas.

But who cares about data, and science. That's all a liberal conspiracy by the "gespacho"."

Data and science? How much more birth control, sex education and "education of women" (whatever that means) do they need to know what makes babies and how to avoid it?

Try to convine women from "pooer areas" to close their legs more often - that's a sure way to reduce abortions.
 
Where in the Constitution does it say you have a right to BUY guns? If we are to read it EXACTLY as written, it says you can own them and it says you can bear them, but EXACTLY as written it says nothing about buying. Nor does it mention ammunition. Nor does it say you have a right to ever discharge a weapon. If you are a literalist, where are you getting buying, firing, or ammunition from in the specific words used?
Lol. This is beneath you Marv.
 
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Where in the Constitution does it say you have a right to BUY guns? If we are to read it EXACTLY as written, it says you can own them and it says you can bear them, but EXACTLY as written it says nothing about buying. Nor does it mention ammunition. Nor does it say you have a right to ever discharge a weapon. If you are a literalist, where are you getting buying, firing, or ammunition from in the specific words used?
You're losing it Marv.
 
Bitching at you has nothing to do with my mood. In many ways it elevates it
Like almost everyone on the far-right, you're really angry, Murt. Grievance politics has you guys enraged. And 16,000 posts in just three years? That's a staggering number. I can't imagine that leaves much time for ambulance-chasing or anything else for that matter. You need another, healthier outlet. Maybe you and your "stoker" could take up ballroom dancing or something.

Keep me posted. I care, bro.
 
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Where in the Constitution does it say you have a right to BUY guns? If we are to read it EXACTLY as written, it says you can own them and it says you can bear them, but EXACTLY as written it says nothing about buying. Nor does it mention ammunition. Nor does it say you have a right to ever discharge a weapon. If you are a literalist, where are you getting buying, firing, or ammunition from in the specific words used?
Actually, I agree with you, in theory. I don't have a problem States being allowed to pass laws relating to making and selling guns, making and selling ammunition, etc.

This just opens the door for some states to make a lot more money and have businesses that do those things.

But along with that, states should not be allowed to require a license to own firearms. Are you willing to go along with that?
 
You can make your car available.
Great, more surge pricing from Uber and Lyft.

But yeah, people will definitely put together organizations to make this happen. There needs to be a legislative solution and the Supremes might make it happen sooner rather than later. And in the midst of what looked to be a drubbing in November for the Dems.

I guess you could say the Supremes are back to being apolitical b/c this surely shoots the Pubs in the foot.
 
Like almost everyone on the far-right, you're really angry, Murt. Grievance politics has you guys enraged. And 16,000 posts in just three years? That's a staggering number. I can't imagine that leaves much time for ambulance-chasing or anything else for that matter. You need another, healthier outlet. Maybe you and your "stoker" could take up ballroom dancing or something.

Keep me posted. I care, bro.
Projecting again? I enjoy the board and don't have a boss. What can I say. I'm good at multitasking. Keep chasing Danc's tail...
 
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one would think this would spawn nonprofits to fill that void. i'm sure they could raise a bunch of dough
and laws to criminalize such acts on the part of the nonprofits.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction... in this case often done in ADVANCE of the action
 
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It's not fair but the woman has to bear the consequences of the act for 9 months and beyond.

It is her body, so it makes it her responsibility to makes sure she does not get pregnant. Don't rely on a guy to prevent it.

My son is allergic to tree nuts. It his responsibility to make sure he does not eat them. It is not everyone else's responsibility to prepare food with out it.
The nut doesn’t fall far from the tree.
 
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The Democrats are not stupidly safe on this issue, if they were, there would not be the gnashing of teeth you see on this. Aloha called it up above, right now the Mississippi (deep red) position is that they can restrict abortion past 15 weeks. The Democrat position is no restrictions. Mississippi is closer to true public opinion then the leftist AWFL position.

All the GOP has to do is stick to that. It isn't banned, it is restricted. Good luck getting arguing for and getting it back to the position it is now where you can kill the baby right up to birth. That's an extreme position.

And while the Democrats are harping about the culture war, the GOP can just pivot and ask how many of you are getting abortions as opposed to those of you who have to buy gas and food.
In short, whatever advantage liberals have, their superpower is screwing it up.
 
and laws to criminalize such acts on the part of the nonprofits.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction...
I really don't see that going anywhere. I mean I guess a goofy legislature could put them on the books and it'd just be a weird patchwork of some county DAs enforcing and some not.
 
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Projecting again? I enjoy the board and don't have a boss. What can I say. I'm good at multitasking. Keep chasing Danc's tail...
You're more fun than danc, murt. And you don't lie like he does, except when you claim to be a moderate. But for God's sake, lighten up a little, would ya? You take yourself way too seriously.
 
Not sure I'd go that far but agree how far apart we are as a country, or at least so it seems. Sad. And you see it on this board. Now there are posters I'm sure who have evaded capture from their nervous hospital nurses and others who would be denied voting rights if a simple civics exam was a prerequisite, but there are some smart people on both sides who have polar views on nearly every issue. And maybe it's always been this way and we've simply had a breakdown in manners and decorum that make things feel much worse. I don't know. Maybe we are exaggerating and none of this really matters to 98 percent of the pop and we're just in the group that finds it interesting.
Take abortion for instance (sorry to change the topic), the most inhumane approach is to have society foolishly at odds whereas the humane approach is to
Pragmatically focus on minimizing unwanted pregnancies, maximizing healthy outcomes for women and the like. Ironically the inhumane approach puts us at polar odds and the humane approach gives us common ground.
 
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If you really want to LOWER the frequency of abortions, the path is crystal clear. Better access to birth control, better sex education, and better education of women, especially in pooer areas.

But who cares about data, and science. That's all a liberal conspiracy by the "gespacho"."

Data and science? How much more birth control, sex education and "education of women" (whatever that means) do they need to know what makes babies and how to avoid it?

Try to convine women from "pooer areas" to close their legs more often - that's a sure way to reduce abortions.
There it is...
 
You're losing it Marv.
I am told that we should use the exact words in the Constitution and only those words, no interpretation is allowed. Is that not the Federalist Society view? If I am right on that, and I am, where is buying guns, shooting guns, and buying ammunition listed.

Or are we all admitting that one must infer and interpret the words? Some of youu infer ammo is in the Constitution, fair enough. I suspect it is inferred and thus is protected, but I am honest that inferring is there and not just a strict use of only the words that appear.
 
It's hard for simple-minded people to realize some have the ability to multi-task.
I've got food being delivered. A conference call i'm going to be jumping on. Champions league will be on in the background, the internet up, and if i were single and had more energy i could get some sexting cookin too. wtf is wrong with him. multitask
 
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I'll try and find it later, but Missouri has a draft law that would even outlaw road trip abortions if the baby was conceived in that state. Not sure how you go about enforcing that, but you can bet red states will employee and and all means to outlaw access to abortion.
Sounds like people will have to leave the state to have sex to accidentally get pregnant.
 
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