On the miscarriage issue, I am not sure. In a case similar to my wife, we found out at a checkup. The baby would have been child #4 for us, so my wife had some experience beforehand on how things were supposed to feel. Something felt off and the doctor confirmed. She had to go and have the baby removed medically. D&C...a process that would probably be similar to an abortion if the baby was still alive but was dead and had to come out before started to decompose in the womb. I feel for your sister. The day it happened my wife wanted to lay in bed. The day after it happened she got a bottle of grey goose and got the most drunk I have seen her before or since.
Listen, I get some of the arguments you guys make. We had 3 children before the miscarriage and one after (my wife really wanted a daughter but 4 was our stopping point), I know how much they change your life. Even being "prepared" for them, you aren't. I agree that it generally is not optimal to be 22 and pregnant and on your own. So I am not against the social safety net that we have in place. I am also not a strict Paul Ryan on the economic side of things. Some of the stuff that has been brought up the past few days about parental leave or universal childcare or things you all have not thought of like universal lunch at school to make sure everybody gets at least one solid (well as solid as school food can be...) meal a day. Most of my family comes from a background that is rooted in a certain faith. My Grandparents were Roosevelt Democrats that evolved away from that party as their focus changed. The Republican Party has had a problem with attracting black voters, even those who share their values. I saw in an article that over 60% of blacks who considered themselves conservative still voted for Hillary Clinton. Respectfully, I think the Democrats have a religious or socially conservative problem that is similar (the two tend to go hand in hand but not always). There is generally an assumption to motivations. I won't say none of us, but the majority of us are not looking for a Handmaid Tale world. I would bet that the majority would also be open to listening to how to help people as long as it was coupled with other things. I think someone up above asked if we should make fathers responsible for helping with costs of prenatal care. Yes! Why would we not? That is the other side of this coin. Women don't get pregnant on their own. I don't agree with forcing sterilization but why would we not enforce parental responsibility on men too?
I am trying to slowly extricate from this conversation by being as fully up front as I can. I am not the furthest right on abortion you can go (rape, incest as close to when it happens as possible and life of mother probably need to be on the table even though the first two are logically inconsistent with the rest of my position) but I am probably the furthest right on the board. I just want to lay it out there what my beliefs truly are. I would say the majority of people who think like me understand where many of you are coming from. We get it. The sticking point is I think that is a human baby and there is no amount of hardship past the three I mentioned that I believe would rise to a level of allowing a mother to unalive (trying to be nice) her own child. It is as wrong to me as the 3/5 compromise was in the constitution. It is dehumanizing and undervaluing actual people.
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