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kkott

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Play in a monthly group, not high stakes: a big pot might get to $50, and generally the nights big winner/loser is in the neighborhood of $60-70. Anyway, I'm not a big poker guy, but I've read books and watched some and understand most strategy, pot odds, etc... The funny thing is, the guys who win most consistently seem to violate most of the "rules" of good poker. I think it's because the books are written for Vegas games and tournaments and this is different because it's a neighborhood game. Boring day, so I'm looking for some good general suggestions of strategy and approaches for neighborhood games. I'd say I'm a knowledgeable beginner. Also, we can pick the games, so if you have a game you like, share that. We play hold'em, omaha, pass the trash, 357, Southern Cross and a variant called the Wheel, if you know those.
 
I'm not a poker expert, but my experience with local card games is that the stakes simply aren't high enough for standard rules to apply. No one cares if they lose. Only when you get into games where it really hurts a guy if he loses will he really act accordingly.
 
I'm not a poker expert, but my experience with local card games is that the stakes simply aren't high enough for standard rules to apply. No one cares if they lose. Only when you get into games where it really hurts a guy if he loses will he really act accordingly.

yeah, you're right. We have about 2-3 guys who are really in to it, 2-3 who are at times and 2 who are their mostly to hang out, and that's the group I'm in. But, I'm still competitive enough to want to do better and get upset if I lose much.
 
I usually start with something like, Your ass is so nice it's a shame you have to set on it. And then just roll from there.

Or, Your Dad must be a drug dealer, cauz you're Dope !
 
I've played in many non-casino hold'em tournaments that include average of 15-20 people. My number one strategy is just fold unless you are in the blinds or have a sure hand, and don't risk your stack until there are 5-6 people left. Then proceed to chew their faces off. You're normally playing with people who have no idea what they're doing, and they will make many unpredictable moves until 75% of them are out of the game. Then it's party time.
 
Play in a monthly group, not high stakes: a big pot might get to $50, and generally the nights big winner/loser is in the neighborhood of $60-70. Anyway, I'm not a big poker guy, but I've read books and watched some and understand most strategy, pot odds, etc... The funny thing is, the guys who win most consistently seem to violate most of the "rules" of good poker. I think it's because the books are written for Vegas games and tournaments and this is different because it's a neighborhood game. Boring day, so I'm looking for some good general suggestions of strategy and approaches for neighborhood games. I'd say I'm a knowledgeable beginner. Also, we can pick the games, so if you have a game you like, share that. We play hold'em, omaha, pass the trash, 357, Southern Cross and a variant called the Wheel, if you know those.

If you're always playing with the same people the first rule is learn their tells and tendencies. I'm sure some of them know yours.

Call the bluffers, play slow on the guys tight with their chips if they're in the game. Know against who and when you can buy a pot.

That'll help more than rules built for big stakes.
That and never trust the river.
 
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Play in a monthly group, not high stakes: a big pot might get to $50, and generally the nights big winner/loser is in the neighborhood of $60-70. Anyway, I'm not a big poker guy, but I've read books and watched some and understand most strategy, pot odds, etc... The funny thing is, the guys who win most consistently seem to violate most of the "rules" of good poker. I think it's because the books are written for Vegas games and tournaments and this is different because it's a neighborhood game. Boring day, so I'm looking for some good general suggestions of strategy and approaches for neighborhood games. I'd say I'm a knowledgeable beginner. Also, we can pick the games, so if you have a game you like, share that. We play hold'em, omaha, pass the trash, 357, Southern Cross and a variant called the Wheel, if you know those.
Rules don't apply in dealer's choice. It's a crap shoot. If someone wins consistently, it's probably because he has mastered a lesser known variant and wins most of his money on his own deal or because the rest if you just suck.
 
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Rules don't apply in dealer's choice. It's a crap shoot. If someone wins consistently, it's probably because he has mastered a lesser known variant and wins most of his money on his own deal or because the rest if you just suck.
It's still poker. It may not be hold em, but a majority of the probabilities and strategies still work. I agree with Reardon, it's just too low of stakes. Applying theories from big money games, which most of the books are written for, and which have far less to do with cards than situational awareness, probably won't work. People take chances on $4 dollar bets, that they would never take on $40 bets.
 
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Add boo-ray, kings and littles, and 7-27, the more games you play the more the table evens out
In Between is a good game too that the pot can get big.

And no matter what, dont forget - jacks phuck you.
 
Play in a monthly group, not high stakes: a big pot might get to $50, and generally the nights big winner/loser is in the neighborhood of $60-70. Anyway, I'm not a big poker guy, but I've read books and watched some and understand most strategy, pot odds, etc... The funny thing is, the guys who win most consistently seem to violate most of the "rules" of good poker. I think it's because the books are written for Vegas games and tournaments and this is different because it's a neighborhood game. Boring day, so I'm looking for some good general suggestions of strategy and approaches for neighborhood games. I'd say I'm a knowledgeable beginner. Also, we can pick the games, so if you have a game you like, share that. We play hold'em, omaha, pass the trash, 357, Southern Cross and a variant called the Wheel, if you know those.
You want poker strategy advice to win a neighborhood game?? Here's your best bet. Get them all drunk while you drink water. You don't have to be good, you'll just clean up when the alcohol begins to impair judgment.
 
You want poker strategy advice to win a neighborhood game?? Here's your best bet. Get them all drunk while you drink water. You don't have to be good, you'll just clean up when the alcohol begins to impair judgment.
I've done this often, and it works in theory but in reality they become so fking annoying that you end up deciding that it just isn't worth it..
 
I've played in many non-casino hold'em tournaments that include average of 15-20 people. My number one strategy is just fold unless you are in the blinds or have a sure hand, and don't risk your stack until there are 5-6 people left. Then proceed to chew their faces off. You're normally playing with people who have no idea what they're doing, and they will make many unpredictable moves until 75% of them are out of the game. Then it's party time.

This is the correct strategy. However, it depends on the blind structure. If the blind structure is set up too aggressively it favors the dumbasses who gamble early. If it is set up properly, your suggestion will work at a high percentage.

Typically, my dumbass friends will double the blinds every time someone goes out so it ends up a coin flip after 30 minutes or so.
 
Add boo-ray, kings and littles, and 7-27, the more games you play the more the table evens out
In Between is a good game too that the pot can get big.

And no matter what, dont forget - jacks phuck you.
we play kings and little men, and 727. Our "poker guys" said booray pots can grow really big so we've never played.
 
I've done this often, and it works in theory but in reality they become so fking annoying that you end up deciding that it just isn't worth it..

you are correct. I'm not much of a drinker, but being the sober one in a drinking crowd, especially this one, stinks. I couldn't drink one time due to some medication and it sucked.
 
Think big, think positive, never show any sign of weakness. Always go for the throat. Buy low, sell high. Fear? That's the other guy's problem. Nothing you have ever experienced will prepare you for the absolute carnage you are about to witness. Super Bowl, World Series - they don't know what pressure is. In this building, it's either kill or be killed. You make no friends in the pits and you take no prisoners. One minute you're up half a million in soybeans and the next, boom, your kids don't go to college and they've repossessed your Bentley. Are you with me?
 
I'm not a poker expert, but my experience with local card games is that the stakes simply aren't high enough for standard rules to apply. No one cares if they lose. Only when you get into games where it really hurts a guy if he loses will he really act accordingly.

Never play against a guy who can afford to lose
 
I've played in many non-casino hold'em tournaments that include average of 15-20 people. My number one strategy is just fold unless you are in the blinds or have a sure hand, and don't risk your stack until there are 5-6 people left. Then proceed to chew their faces off. You're normally playing with people who have no idea what they're doing, and they will make many unpredictable moves until 75% of them are out of the game. Then it's party time.
That will work for the tournament but not really in that kind of cash game, especially with dealers choice.
 
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Never play against a guy who can afford to lose

That's good succinct advice. And in your local buddy game, everyone can afford to lose.

My FIL (RIP) used to play a weekly nickle/dime/quarter game and complained all the time that he could never bluff guys off their hands. Well, no shit. Who's gonna fold when they can pay half a buck to see your cards? Get a guy having to risk the rent on a call and there's a guy you can push off trip aces while holding rags.

I don't play, because I'd be too scared of losing and you can't win unless you're willing to lose.
 
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They are normally the biggest marks at the table.

Maybe, but they are also the most unpredictable. He's they guy that draws the straight flush on the river when he should have folded after the flop.
 
Think big, think positive, never show any sign of weakness. Always go for the throat. Buy low, sell high. Fear? That's the other guy's problem. Nothing you have ever experienced will prepare you for the absolute carnage you are about to witness. Super Bowl, World Series - they don't know what pressure is. In this building, it's either kill or be killed. You make no friends in the pits and you take no prisoners. One minute you're up half a million in soybeans and the next, boom, your kids don't go to college and they've repossessed your Bentley. Are you with me?

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I'm not a poker expert, but my experience with local card games is that the stakes simply aren't high enough for standard rules to apply. No one cares if they lose. Only when you get into games where it really hurts a guy if he loses will he really act accordingly.
absolutely correct.
 
This is the correct strategy. However, it depends on the blind structure. If the blind structure is set up too aggressively it favors the dumbasses who gamble early. If it is set up properly, your suggestion will work at a high percentage.

Typically, my dumbass friends will double the blinds every time someone goes out so it ends up a coin flip after 30 minutes or so.
We had an answer for that in the regular game I used to play in. Everyone had an option for one re-buy in the first hour. After that first hour, anyone who didn't rebuy had the option for an add-on. The end result of this was that the bad players ended up paying twice, while the good players had a chance to eat them up double while also adding to their stack at a key point in the game.
 
We had an answer for that in the regular game I used to play in. Everyone had an option for one re-buy in the first hour. After that first hour, anyone who didn't rebuy had the option for an add-on. The end result of this was that the bad players ended up paying twice, while the good players had a chance to eat them up double while also adding to their stack at a key point in the game.

Re-buys are retarded.

Especially when the dumbass you knocked out rebuys and then gets all retard lucky on you next time.
 
If you're always playing with the same people the first rule is learn their tells and tendencies. I'm sure some of them know yours.

Call the bluffers, play slow on the guys tight with their chips if they're in the game. Know against who and when you can buy a pot.

That'll help more than rules built for big stakes.
That and never trust the river.

Considering the stakes and level of play I doubt any of them know anyones tells.
 
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