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He didn’t. We weren’t planning to attack China and intel indicated that they thought we were. Assuring his counterpart that we weren’t going to attack them is the right thing to do. Deescalating to prevent war is exactly what SecDefs and Chairmen do with their counterparts. He coordinated the call with the SecDef too. Now, if we did plan a secret attack in China, that would be an actual problem if he told them we were planning to do that. We weren’t and he didn’t.

I know Trump made a big deal about the call which caused MAGA world to think it was a big deal, but it really wasn’t. The real issue is President Trump’s rhetoric and seemingly chaotic behavior caused China’s military leadership to think we were planning to attack them. I’m hopeful that doesn’t happen during this term. We have potential for conflict between US and Chinese warships in the South China Sea and always between China and Taiwan. Rest assured out top military brass will have discussions with counterparts to keep and situations from escalating.
Of course this assumes the Chicoms don’t lie during these routine calls.

I’m old enough to to remember China lied its ass off about Covid, disappeared some scientists, and our health bureaucrats got an assist for that.
 
Of course this assumes the Chicoms don’t lie during these routine calls.

I’m old enough to to remember China lied its ass off about Covid, disappeared some scientists, and our health bureaucrats got an assist for that.
Why would anyone assume they don't lie?
 
Because President Trump and his minions promised retribution. Pretty simple. Don't think there's any possible successful charge for Miley, but legal fees can pile up quickly.
Bondi? A minion? She promised? I don’t buy it.

I don’t think Milley and his minions wanted to risk an investigation. He’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer and i think we don’t know the rest of the story.

Somebody put Miley’s name on the pardon list for a reason.
 
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Why would anyone assume they don't lie?
I guess he is suggesting they played our Intel and our Intel never thinks that is possible.

I have no idea what China gained if they were lying to get a phone call. What would be their advantage?

I have never worked Intel, I like the way spell check capitalizes it, but I have played Diplomacy a_lot. I would like to think our spy agencies are as smart as every Diplomacy player and consider the possibility they are being lied to.
 
Bondi? A minion? She promised? I don’t buy it.

I don’t think Milley and his minions wanted to risk an investigation. He’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer and i think we don’t know the rest of the story.

Somebody put Miley’s name on the pardon list for a reason.
The reason is obvious, and I stated it. There is no way he could be prosecuted successfully. What possible charge do you think could be successfully prosecuted?

Miley is on Patel's enemy list that he published in a book.
 
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The FBI agents in Virginia who put Roman Catholics on a watch list should be fired and their supervisor demoted.
The FBI agents who mobilized FISA anti-terror response against unruly parents at a local school board meeting should be fired and their supervisors demoted.
The FBI agents who made a realty TV show out of executing the Mar a Lago search warrant and rummaged through Milania’s lingerie drawer should be fired along with their supervisors.
The DOJ lawyers who tortured the U.S. code and the legal process to concoct some of the J6 indictments should be fired.

I don’t care how much of an asshole Trump is, all of the above is conduct unbecoming for the world’s gold standard for law enforcement and prosecution.
 
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The reason is obvious, and I stated it. There is no way he could be prosecuted successfully. What possible charge do you think could be successfully prosecuted?

Miley is on Patel's enemy list that he published in a book.
We have no way of knowing if Milley could be prosecuted. But you raise a decent point. The history of the Trump prosecutions in N.Y. Georgia, in D.C. and the way justice FUBARED documents case, shows that our Justice system can easily become third-world like. I trust that sanity will return with Bondi and her deputies leading the way.

Patel never published an enemies list.
 
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We have no way of knowing if Milley could be prosecuted. But you raise a decent point. The history of the Trump prosecutions in N.Y. Georgia, in D.C. and the way justice FUBARED documents case, shows that our Justice system can easily become third-world like. I trust that sanity will return with Bondi and her deputies leading the way.

Patel never published an enemies list.
Why do you do that? You're denying something that in fact exists. He didn't call it that exactly, but it's in his 2023 book "Government Gangsters" and General Milley is in the list.

 
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The FBI agents in Virginia who put Roman Catholics on a watch list should be fired and their supervisor demoted.
The FBI agents who mobilized FISA anti-terror response against unruly parents at a local school board meeting should be fired and their supervisors demoted.
The FBI agents who made a realty TV show out of executing the Mar a Lago search warrant and rummaged through Milania’s lingerie drawer should be fired along with their supervisors.
The DOJ lawyers who tortured the U.S. code and the legal process to concoct some of the J6 indictments should be fired.

I don’t care how much of an asshole Trump is, all of the above is conduct unbecoming for the world’s gold standard for law enforcement and prosecution.
Absolutely. And the FBI building in DC should be closed and then reopened as a museum of the Deep State.
 
He didn't call it that exactly,
Right.

Call it what it is?

Edit. Patel called them members of the Executive Branch deep state, who are a dangerous threat to democracy. I don’t know who all is on the list, but as I’ve mentioned, the Deep State is real and it is dangerous. I probably agree with some on his list and I would probably add some he didn’t include. Every member of the administration who concealed Biden’s dementia should be at the top of the list.
 
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Once Pete clears out the dei trannies and woke military personnel I would imagine they’re going to have to get some quick replacements and lean on the old reliables for guidance/direction. @DANC anyone in the dept reach out to you? Directly or back channels?
You know those 88 FBI agents that were walked out the door?

I can't comment.
 
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Isn't it clear that "MAGA" Isn't R or D?

It's common sense Americans that love the best of both parties, and disassociate from the extremes. MAGA is the party of guys/chicks that get things done. They ****. They party.
They succeed. They're not partisan tribal dorks that value old school values. They reject both.

It's why guys like Gilligan and the shitlibs here end up circle-jerking each other....

dorks.
You guys look stupid with this stuff.
 
Right.

Call it what it is?

Edit. Patel called them members of the Executive Branch deep state, who are a dangerous threat to democracy. I don’t know who all is on the list, but as I’ve mentioned, the Deep State is real and it is dangerous. I probably agree with some on his list and I would probably add some he didn’t include. Every member of the administration who concealed Biden’s dementia should be at the top of the list.
The list is in the article that I linked. It's disturbing that you'd add names to the list.

The Deep State is bogus nonsense, and so is the list.
 
Acting FBI director Brian Driscoll said "thousands" in his email to the rank and file. You can quibble with him about the word he used.
Didn’t know it was that many. Doesn’t sound right. If true that is itself a huge misuse of important FBI resources and assets.
 
The FBI agents in Virginia who put Roman Catholics on a watch list should be fired and their supervisor demoted.
The FBI agents who mobilized FISA anti-terror response against unruly parents at a local school board meeting should be fired and their supervisors demoted.
The FBI agents who made a realty TV show out of executing the Mar a Lago search warrant and rummaged through Milania’s lingerie drawer should be fired along with their supervisors.
The DOJ lawyers who tortured the U.S. code and the legal process to concoct some of the J6 indictments should be fired.

I don’t care how much of an asshole Trump is, all of the above is conduct unbecoming for the world’s gold standard for law enforcement and prosecution.
They tried to lock up this mother for 3 and a half years for praying outside an abortion clinic. Are you implying that they weren’t focused on real criminals?

 
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They tried to lock up this mother for 3 and a half years for praying outside an abortion clinic. Are you implying that they weren’t focused on real criminals?

Praying my ass. You’re a clown.

 
Praying my ass. You’re a clown.

What did she do? I remember walking from Dunn St to take my civil procedure exam at Maurer and being harassed by the 9/11 truthers who wouldn’t let me enter the building. I’m sure they were all charged and prosecuted.
 
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What did she do? I remember walking from Dunn St to take my civil procedure exam at Maurer and being harassed by the 9/11 truthers who wouldn’t let me enter the building. I’m sure they were all charged and prosecuted.
She blocked a doorway, said some mean words, and caused someone to hurt their hand....aka she was being an idiot. The sentencing of 41 months was ridiculous.
 
She was praying in her way. The question remains, do we have an equal system of justice in this country? Are all people treated the same? Do we go after those who are the real threats to society or just to make a political point?
All fun and games until someone claims they're a member of the Church of Busted Noses and their way of praying includes throwing hands.

The sentence was over the top, but she wasn't simply praying in front of a clinic.
 
She was praying in her way. The question remains, do we have an equal system of justice in this country? Are all people treated the same? Do we go after those who are the real threats to society or just to make a political point?
Upon further investigation she was playing this song while praying. I judged too soon, the sentencing was fair.


 
All fun and games until someone claims they're a member of the Church of Busted Noses and their way of praying includes throwing hands.

The sentence was over the top, but she wasn't simply praying in front of a clinic.
And the BLM rioters who burned much of the country to the ground and caused billions of dollars in damage were not peacefully protesting. Keep everything equal and there won’t be any issues. Dems can’t do that though.
 
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