Mark does the same thing and not a peep from you to him about it.
You should be ashamed, but you have no shame.
Pete Hegseth Secretary of Defense
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You should be ashamed, but you have no shame.
I’ve done the same to many posters. Ask OS, bowl, ButHerEmails, and very likely Mark too. You should be ashamed of your constant dishonesty.
It’s an opinion which has some support. I wouldn’t agree it’s proven. It’s a safe bet from reporting that he’s at least occasionally a heavy drinker or maybe a binge drinker.
Mas’ opinion about Pelosi has no support and she reportedly is a teetotaler, but her husband isn’t, or wasn’t.
If Pete is an alcoholic how is it that he was able to make to the Fox studio at 4 am every morning for years to do Fox & Friends? Never once appeared drunk, tired, hung over, etc. I thought most alcoholics got hammered every night.
I just said I’m not going to definitively say he’s an alcoholic. He’s, by his own admission, an occasional heavy drinker, but he may or may not be an actual alcoholic. I had a Chief working for me when I was a young officer and it turned out he was an alcoholic. A very well functioning alcoholic in that he also showed up on time for work and was able to stand his watches at sea and I didn’t really suspect he was a full blown alcoholic until I never saw him sober in any port we pulled into on deployment. We talked about it. He was a mess and losing control and he knew it. He started to tackle it toward the end of deployment and after we returned to homeport. He was doing well when I transferred.
That's incorrect. And Pete has never once appeared drunk in all the times I've watched him.
Pistol Pete’s chances are looking much better. During the blitz, Churchill would wake up at the crack of 10 AM and start off the day with a whiskey soda in bed alongside his breakfast. Then wash down his lunch with a bottle of Champaign.
Wrong…an alcoholic has to maintain a certain BAC or he/she develops life threatening symptoms. An alcoholic and a benzodiazepine addict risk death by stopping cold turkey. An opioid addict will feel like they are going to die but they will be fine (it just won’t be any fun) if they stop cold turkey
This is true for the worst of the worst, those with a severe physical dependence on alcohol. Think the wino under the bridge sipping his pint of Mad Dog to stave off the demons. I'm not claiming Hegseth falls into this category.
One thing about being an alcoholic assigned to US Navy ships is forced sobriety. No alcohol can be consumed on ships at sea so alcoholics may get plastered during port visits, but it ends when we pull out of port and out to sea.
There is an exception for drinking at sea. After 45 consecutive days we have a beer day when everyone that wants to drink beer gets two. There is no trading allowed and it’s closely supervised by leadership.
I'm afraid this is a totally understudied/ misunderstood issue with the stereotype "Alcoholic". According to several, I am an "Alcoholic". I've drank for years, along with my buddies.
I've had multiple times that I had to stop cold turkey, for multiple weeks, even several months. No problem, I control it, it doesn't control me! (eff you Aloha!
)On the other hand, I have a 60yrs old buddy who was a small drinker, maybe 2-3 beers at a time, several days apart. 3-4 yrs ago he decided to start drinking Rum, which shocked all of us. His doctor thinks that stopping cold turkey may kill him. Why he started???? Why it would kill him, he's a pussy and pretender wanted to go anyway. Oh and the Dr wanted therapy $$$.
No you haven't and, when you had the chance to do it here, you haven't.
It's so out there for anyone to see - do you think your after-the-fact denials hide your true actions, or in this case, non-actions?
Mark evidently thinks drinking automatically make you an alcoholic.
But only if you're MAGA.
My father-in-law was an alcoholic and, while there were times he was sober, it wasn't long before he went on a bender.
I don't know about BAC, but I suspect you're correct.
In the Army, we had pop machines, except they had beer in them. Cheap beer.
I knew a guy in our Company who actually died of alcoholism while I was there.
I'm surprised to hear ther is NO alcohol while at see (except in the one instance).
You mean they do the Internation Dateline celebrations sober?
There you go. You are the most dishonest poster this board has ever seen. You are a flat out liar. You have no honor.
So I've heard. Did you ever suck the marble out of Poseiden's(Neptune's) belly button?
Royal Baby and a cherry, not a marble. I became a Shellback in 1988. It’s been a while. It’s a much more kindler and gentler ceremony these days. What we went through is now considered hazing.
Guy I worked with told me about it. Sounded alarmingly homo-erotic.
You get a group of military guys together and weird shit happens.
Even for the worst of the worst, a small minority suffer a life-threatening withdrawal. Don't get me wrong, anyone with serious alcoholism should be looking to detox in a facility just in case, but for most alcoholics, the biggest hurdle they will face will be psychological.
A buddy from HS was on a sub. He used to say "80 men go down, 40 couples come up." Then he'd laugh his ass off. He told me it was a riff on the Lichtenstein army where 80 men went to war and 81 came back. I guess the "regular" joke is 100 men, 50 couples.
You’re so full of it, the closest you been to an Ocean is the Maumee River .
Being a functioning alcoholic is a thing. I've known two people who were self-described as this, got help and are now both sober. One was a friend who was a lawyer. He obviously wasn't drunk in court or even going into the office, but he'd tie one on a lot of nights. He said he started drinking so much he was regularly blacking out. He said only a handful of people he worked with knew what he was struggling with and he'd be surprised if some of his co-workers ever knew he was alcoholic.
The other one was a woman I worked with a decade or so ago. She was very nice and somewhat soft spoken. She was always at work - outside of seeing her at an occasional happy hour I never would have guessed she was an alcoholic until she shared her story on facebook.
Long of the short of it, I think some people are flat out wrong in thinking an alcoholic is an always drunk, stereotypically hungover mess. Sometimes people are good at hiding it.
That said, I'm with you. I've seen reports that Hegseth is an alcoholic, but I don't know for sure.
An alcoholic has a bottle in their drawer at work. An alcoholic drinks as soon as they get up….they drink all day, every day. They are physically dependent on alcohol. They will drink mouthwash while on the job.
They are not just drinking after work.
I get that there are people like that, but that's not always the case. There are high functioning alcoholics. And that's the category my friends fell into. Having talked with them, I know they struggled with it. Both went to AA. Both are now proudly sober, but both also acknowledge they're alcoholics. I've never argued with them about it.
And this isn't a indictment on Pete Hegseth. I've seen reports of him being an alcoholic, but I have no idea what his actual story is.
EDIT TO ADD: for some reason, I feel like it's important to say that the two friends I mentioned above don't know each other.
Does a heroin addict just use heroin after work? Or do they maintain a certain blood level as to not go thru withdrawal?
I feel like this is kind of a silly argument. I'm just telling you what two of my friends' experiences were. They acknowledged they had a problem, it was validated by professionals and they both got proper treatment. I'll ring them up later today to tell them a guy on an internet message board says they're full of shit because heroin addicts can't got to work without a hit.
Yes, this certainly can be the case. Addiction is a psychological condition that may be accompanied by physiological dependency, but that isn’t always the case.
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