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Official Vance /Walz debate thread

I looked at your list carefully and more than once. I don't believe Clinton has claimed any of those things happened in 2016. Her claims have always been about improper influence, not fraud.
Clinton's problem was her use of language. Calling his election "illegitimate" allows his followers to conflate it with what he claimed after 2020, even though they are entirely different things. She could have stressed that the American voters made the wrong choice in 2016 because they were influenced by bad actors who duped them, without also explicitly questioning the legitimacy of Trump's election.
 
Clinton's problem was her use of language. Calling his election "illegitimate" allows his followers to conflate it with what he claimed after 2020, even though they are entirely different things. She could have stressed that the American voters made the wrong choice in 2016 because they were influenced by bad actors who duped them, without also explicitly questioning the legitimacy of Trump's election.
It's kind of hard to misunderstand what 'illegitimate' means.

She said it, despite any attempts to change the meaning of the word.
 
Clinton's problem was her use of language. Calling his election "illegitimate" allows his followers to conflate it with what he claimed after 2020, even though they are entirely different things. She could have stressed that the American voters made the wrong choice in 2016 because they were influenced by bad actors who duped them, without also explicitly questioning the legitimacy of Trump's election.

Oh yeah. She's a dumbass.
 
Did I say you blamed me for misunderstanding? No. I just pointed out there is no other way to interpret is.

Nobody is 'conflating' anything.
Of course there is, dupe. She never claimed voter fraud, she conceded, she attended the inauguration like every othe losing Presidential candidate. Trump did the opposite of all that. You’re as dishonest as the day is long so you won’t acknowledge any of those facts.
 
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I find it hilarious that people who suppor the candidacy of a convicted felon and sex abuser who slept around on at least 3 wives, some of whom were pregnant at the time somehow think people on the other side of the spectrum are going to not vote for his opponent because a her VP candidate may or may not have had a relationship with a Chinese girl...

We know Stormy was telling the truth because she knows about the size (lack of) Trump's pencil dick...KH's opponent is freaking Donald Trump, not Mother Theresa...
 
I find it hilarious that people who suppor the candidacy of a convicted felon and sex abuser who slept around on at least 3 wives, some of whom were pregnant at the time somehow think people on the other side of the spectrum are going to not vote for his opponent because a her VP candidate may or may not have had a relationship with a Chinese girl...

We know Stormy was telling the truth because she knows about the size (lack of) Trump's pencil dick...KH's opponent is freaking Donald Trump, not Mother Theresa...
Well you certainly expect others to not vote for Trump for his sexual escapades.

Of course, it's different when a Democrat is literally sleeping with the enemy.
 
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