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Official debate thread
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From comments through page 3, it sounds like that debate was a lot of fun to watch. Glad we watched The Bear instead, although Episode 8 was a brutal watch. Might have preferred the debate.
I think those who only watch biased liberal news shows were stunned by his poor performance, whereas Fox viewers are more familiar with his incoherent “antics”.
great stuff!
I Have an Unfortunate Reality Check About the Weirdest Exchange of the Debate
Unsurprisingly, it went most off the rails when Trump and Biden’s ages came up.slate.com
a couple favorites.....
"As it concerns their respective golf abilities, both candidates for president were absolutely, utterly full of shit....."
"Rick Reilly, the author of the book about Trump’s golf fabrications, told Vox in 2019 that Trump “cheats like a mafia accountant,” adding: “He kicks the ball so much that caddies call him Pelé.”
yes, he has declined rapidly in the last 12 months. The fact remains that dem leadership didn't see it until last night.
dead
dead voters voting for a dead candidate?
Trump himself had a terrible debate but it was overshadowed by Biden.
I dislike Biden as much as I dislike Trump (for different reason) but when he lost his train of thought early, that look on his face...I felt sorry for him. He kne, but there was nothing he could do about it.
Agree. The next time Trump actually lays out real policy and discusses it cogently will be the first. It's really a shame the Democrats don't have someone who can more capably call him to the carpet and get past his bluster. He's an idiot, but he cleared a low bar of looking like the better 'debater' last night.
I can't believe you're really that dense. But maybe you are.
He didn't have a terrible debate at all. There really was no debate - Trump dominated.
It's would be the first time in history she didn't have a complete and total word salad moment. Biden speaking and accusing Trump of Hitler last night? The only thing that comes close to Hitler, is the drugs the dem party serves Kamala and Joe.
Sorry, I think you have me confused with someone else. Or you need a dictionary. I don't post conspiracy theories or wild speculation, which is why it's so weird that you replied to my post about facts and conspiracy theories by calling it the definition of irony.
As Trump might say, "Historians say I am the greatest president of all time, and Joe is the worst".
Meanwhile looking at the bewildered Biden on the split screen one could conclude Trump is correct.
He dominated the conversation but he told so many half truths, falsehhods and exagerations that he had a poor debate. Had Biden been awake and coherent he would have called him on them. He also refused to address some of the most important questions.
Don't confuse that with having a good debate
I am the same way. I in no way would make fun of someone who has dementia. Notice afterwards how Jill came up to help him get down the stairs which were not steep and there was another person coming towards Biden on his right side to help if he needed it. CNN was talking right after the debate that perhaps Biden should be replaced. I think that is fair. Don't make fun of him. But acknowledge he is not fit to serve.
Have you ever listened to her speak for more than three minutes... Last night with Anderson was the first time she's spoken coherently on any topic over the past three and a half years... She may well be missing quite a few brain cells herself...
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Do the political pundits know that we are not a Democracy? We are a Democratic Republic. This matters a lot because a pure Democracy is just majority rule. Nothing trounces the rights of the minority more than majority rule.
That's a little like second-to-last place Northwestern beating last place Penn State in the last game of the regular season and Northwestern declaring that they're the best Big Ten basketball team of all time after their win.
To be fair - right or wrong - this administration seems to have kept her on the bench so we haven't had much of a chance to plead her case on any number topics.
What are today's odds that Biden's name will end up being on ballots in November? I don't know -- but they can't be as good as they were yesterday.
That said, I don't think Republicans should be doing handsprings and Dems should be pondering a Hemlock Iced Latte. If this clears the way for pressure to be brought to bear on Biden to step aside and the Democrats do an adept job at replacing him, we could end up looking at this debate as the day a second Trump term was thwarted.
That said, I don't think Republicans should be doing handsprings and Dems should be pondering a Hemlock Iced Latte. If this clears the way for pressure to be brought to bear on Biden to step aside and the Democrats do an adept job at replacing him, we could end up looking at this debate as the day a second Trump term was thwarted.
I am going to be fair with VP Harris on this point. She is being asked about Biden's fitness for office. She is the VP. She has to be loyal even though it is obvious that the President is physically unfit for office. Also if she can't say he should step down because 1. She is toast and she knows it. Her only path going forward politically is to be the VP and hope he leaves office during his second term. Then she can be President. 2. She would look like she is attacking him to get the nomination for herself.
2024 Democratic Presidential Nomination
Obama is obviously Michelle, not Barack.
| BETTING ODDS | BIDEN | NEWSOM | HARRIS | OBAMA | CLINTON | WHITMER | BUTTIGIEG | SANDERS | WARREN |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RCP Average | 55.6 | 19.2 | 10.6 | 6.5 | 3.5 | 2.3 | 0.8 | 0.5 | 0.5 |
| Betfair | 52 | 20 | 9 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Bovada | 52 | 25 | 10 | 10 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| Polymarket | 61 | 8 | 8 | 7 | — | — | — | — | — |
| PredictIt | 58 | 23 | 14 | — | 5 | — | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| Smarkets | 55 | 20 | 12 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
2024 Democratic Presidential Nomination
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Obama is obviously Michelle, not Barack.
BETTING ODDS BIDEN NEWSOM HARRIS OBAMA CLINTON WHITMER BUTTIGIEG SANDERS WARREN RCP Average 55.6 19.2 10.6 6.5 3.5 2.3 0.8 0.5 0.5 Betfair 52 20 9 4 2 3 0 0 0 Bovada 52 25 10 10 4 2 1 1 1 Polymarket 61 8 8 7 — — — — — PredictIt 58 23 14 — 5 — 1 1 1 Smarkets 55 20 12 5 3 2 1 0 0
Gretchen Whitmer at $2 seems like a decent bet to me. It's cheap to buy and could easily jump a lot if Biden bows out (personally, I think he will).
IMO, she'd obviously be the best choice as a replacement -- especially if she picks Gov. Josh Shapiro as her runningmate. However, I can understand why the best odds go to Newsom and Harris, given the info we have right now. That makes sense.
But it's interesting that the betting markets have Biden's chances of nomination at almost 50/50.
Nah, thanks to the electoral college, it doesn't really matter, because we don't vote for Biden, we vote for a Democratic slate of electors. And while the process is different in each state, if Biden did drop out, he'd just release his electors to vote for whomever his replacement ends up being.
It's too bad term limits will never be enacted. These people that are in DC for 30-40-50 years run out of ideas after about 15. They'd be better individuals later in life if they escaped the swamp.
What a sorry group of people.2024 Democratic Presidential Nomination
Obama is obviously Michelle, not Barack.
BETTING ODDS BIDEN NEWSOM HARRIS OBAMA CLINTON WHITMER BUTTIGIEG SANDERS WARREN RCP Average 55.6 19.2 10.6 6.5 3.5 2.3 0.8 0.5 0.5 Betfair 52 20 9 4 2 3 0 0 0 Bovada 52 25 10 10 4 2 1 1 1 Polymarket 61 8 8 7 — — — — — PredictIt 58 23 14 — 5 — 1 1 1 Smarkets 55 20 12 5 3 2 1 0 0
Something is wrong with that woman. Get your husband home. In comfy clothes. Let him relax
I can only speculate, but it seems if Harris doesn't replace him, all hell breaks loose. A big chunk of that voting block would lose their minds if Newsome (or any other white guy) leapfrogged Harris.
The narrative now is the she doesn't want to give up power. Such interesting times.
We can all agree that Joe saved democracy last night..
Don't kid yourself: he wants the power and fame, too.
But a good woman can help you see the light son. Mine is still out there. And maybe so is Joe’s. Playing bingo at some upscale Delaware assisted living home
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