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No, it's nothing like Trump. Despite what you think of him personally, his Presidency was a success by most any measure. We did more than just survive - we thrived as a country.
The President is a personality. There's no way around it. And sowing discord relative to institutions this country has long held dear is not just about what I think of him personally.

I know we won't agree and that's fine.
 
The President is a personality. There's no way around it. And sowing discord relative to institutions this country has long held dear is not just about what I think of him personally.

I know we won't agree and that's fine.
Exposing corruption in government agencies like the IRS, FBI, and CIA may be sowing discord, but it was badly needed.
 
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Exposing corruption in government agencies like the IRS, FBI, and CIA may be sowing discord, but it was badly needed.
This part cracks me up. You think he exposed corruption but his was likely the most corrupt administration in history, starting with his family. I’ll never understand how people can ignore that. Drain the swamp starts at home…
 
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This part cracks me up. You think he exposed corruption but his was likely the most corrupt administration in history, starting with his family. I’ll never understand how people can ignore that. Drain the swamp starts at home…
I don't think he exposed corruption - I know he did.

The FBI had people fired for lying and the Sussman trial brought out the fact the FBI knew there was no basis to continue the Russian Collusion Hoax, yet continued the investigation through the Mueller Report.

John Brennan and Clapper lied to the public through the media and then wouldn't repeat the same lies when under oath.


Washington DC is incestuous and they all cover for each other. Trump exposed all of it.
 
I'd love to see Holcomb run and make a splash. Of course, he's not bombastic or "sexy" enough to get any traction, so that's a pipe dream.

None of the "name" Dems, including Harris, appeal to me at all. I was totally behind Biden, believing he was our best hope at beating Trump, but understand that he's now a lame duck. I can't even come up with an out of the box pick. I suppose Newsome might be a possibility, but I can't get excited about him.
 
This part cracks me up. You think he exposed corruption but his was likely the most corrupt administration in history, starting with his family. I’ll never understand how people can ignore that. Drain the swamp starts at home…
Existential threat!! Will cause the collapse of all life forms. The greatest threat to humanity ever!
Did you not get the DNC TPS report this decade? You are not following the script !
 
I'd love to see Holcomb run and make a splash. Of course, he's not bombastic or "sexy" enough to get any traction, so that's a pipe dream.

None of the "name" Dems, including Harris, appeal to me at all. I was totally behind Biden, believing he was our best hope at beating Trump, but understand that he's now a lame duck. I can't even come up with an out of the box pick. I suppose Newsome might be a possibility, but I can't get excited about him.
Holcomb is Mittens Romney in mood ring color changing Candy stripe pants. Which… actually makes sense why he could get socialist support.
 
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Who here likes Tulsi, sinema…etc? They seem pretty center.
Tulsa is positioning herself as a moderate uniparty candidate. She is young enough to build a platform gradually; I think she sees the trending populist anti-globalist sentiment and would run towards that rather than away...

The WEF connection is troubling...
 
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You guys are just trolling me with this Tulsi and Kristi talk, right?

Okay, how about the Dems go with Caroline Edwards then? Is she old enough?
 
This part cracks me up. You think he exposed corruption but his was likely the most corrupt administration in history, starting with his family. I’ll never understand how people can ignore that. Drain the swamp starts at home…
You are really so clueless. We get it, you hate Trump but the posts you make caused by your hatred just make you look like a fool.
 
I'd love to see Holcomb run and make a splash. Of course, he's not bombastic or "sexy" enough to get any traction, so that's a pipe dream.

None of the "name" Dems, including Harris, appeal to me at all. I was totally behind Biden, believing he was our best hope at beating Trump, but understand that he's now a lame duck. I can't even come up with an out of the box pick. I suppose Newsome might be a possibility, but I can't get excited about him.
Yeah, the Democrat bench is pretty pathetic.

Why is Biden a lame duck? Don't you think he's doing a great job?
 
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Trannies (not Thai) competing in High School sports.
"I'm a small state. South Dakota is small," she said. "We have to fight hard to even get any tournaments or games in the state of South Dakota. And I recognize the NCAA can come in and crush me, and can make an example out of me, and point to South Dakota and say, 'See, no other state better challenge us whatsoever.' So that's why I'm trying to be smart about this and build a coalition of athletes, of states, of governors, of attorneys generals, and show the NCAA that we're going to fight to make sure that only girls can play in girls' sports."

 
She’s a RINO and my heart only has room for one female politician.

Trumpsters think that anything less than 100% loyalty to Trump equates to RINO. Trumpsters aren’t Republican first, Trumpsters second. They’re Trump loyalists and his party is irrelevant. They’d be loyal to Trump if Trump left the Republican Party and proclaimed he was a Democrat. It’s all about total devotion to Trump.
 
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Trumpsters think that anything less than 100% loyalty to Trump equates to RINO. Trumpsters aren’t Republican first, Trumpsters second. They’re Trump loyalists and his party is irrelevant. They’d be loyal to Trump if Trump left the Republican Party and proclaimed he was a Democrat. It’s all about total devotion to Trump.

I thought Noem was a total Trump sycophant. Didn't she even go along with proposing that Trump should be put on Mt. Rushmore?
 
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I thought Noem was a total Trump sycophant. Didn't she even go along with proposing that Trump should be put on Mt. Rushmore?
Heck if I know. If Trumpsters hate her than she must have disagreed with something he said. That’s all it takes for Trumpsters to call a Republican a RINO.
 
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Quite honestly, sometimes wonder why I vote.

Live in Marion County, Indiana where all the Dems win. On the state and federal level, all the Pubs win.

Not entirely pleased with any of the office holders who represent me. There was a time when when I sorta liked them all, regardless of party. Wish it was like that now.
 
I thought Noem was a total Trump sycophant. Didn't she even go along with proposing that Trump should be put on Mt. Rushmore?
No one called Noem a RINO. But it's easy to make that mistake when you don't know how to read.
 
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No one called Noem a RINO. But it's easy to make that mistake when you don't know how to read.
Okay, I feel better now. I was afraid I'd have to reconsider her if you guys thought poorly of her.

She's still a babe.
 
"The generation after me is just a complete trash heap," said Howard Dean, the 73-year-old former Vermont governor and Democratic National Committee chairman who ran for president in 2004. "We need to have specific examples of how we’re dealing with things; it can’t just be pie-in-the-sky and kumbaya."

 
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"The generation after me is just a complete trash heap," said Howard Dean, the 73-year-old former Vermont governor and Democratic National Committee chairman who ran for president in 2004. "We need to have specific examples of how we’re dealing with things; it can’t just be pie-in-the-sky and kumbaya."

Did he follow that up with his warface and battle cry?
 
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