New Orleans attack

[Hoopsdoc1978]

I remember when a 12-4 Colts team had to go play an 8-8 Chargers team on the road. Was complete BS.

That was the infamous Mike Scifres game. I’ll never forget it.

The dude punted 6 times. All of them finished inside the 20 yard line, 4 of them inside the 10, and the last one went out of bounds at the 1.

He did more to win that game for the chargers than any other player they had.

It was unbelievable.

 

[Digressions]

Don't get me wrong; I'm fine with those being the rules. A reward for winning the division is either a bye or a home game? Fine with me. But in real life, the Lions and Vikings are clearly the two best teams in the NFC, and the loser this week will suffer a punishment similar to non-champions in college. I'm just pointing out that the NFL's system doesn't always prevent the exact same type of thing we are complaining about with the college system.

I understand your point and agree. As an aside: One huge difference is that in the pros you play a home and home against your division, and non-division opponents are based on strength, and so is the draft. Apples and oranges. But again, point taken

 

[Digressions]

No. NIL can't be tied to playing or performance.

So is that by definition "employment"?

 

[mcmurtry66]

Right. If they are not employees nor contractors, what are they? They have almost no control over their job, they aren't contractors. Unless Congress passes a law carving out student athlete as a classification, they will be employees and it will happen soon. The NCAA clearly hires lawyers from the discount rack

Right. If they are not employees nor contractors, what are they? They have almost no control over their job, they aren't contractors. Unless Congress passes a law carving out student athlete as a classification, they will be employees and it will happen soon. The NCAA clearly hires lawyers from the discount rack

If they collectively bargain I believe they have to be ees. As for ncaa I knew the associate director of enforcement. Died just a few years ago. Real sweet guy. Played soccer at navy @Aloha Hoosier

 

[hookyIU1990]

So is that by definition "employment"?

Not by the university or as recognized by the NCAA.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

I'm not saying it isn't coming. I'm saying it's gonna turn schools upside down. Name a MAC or SBC school that can afford to do all the things required to square all those things Murt and I mentioned and then start sending check that don't bounce. You can't. It's a huge liability if no special consideration is given by the government.

A quick look, it all depends on the state. So Indiana can pass a law making students not employees for workers comp.

It appears CA has a rule one has to play for a CA pro team, a Patriots player getting hurt in a CA game doesn't count. In another page I saw FL puts a strict time limit on how long after the injury athletes are covered

Given the NCAA could not win a lawsuit over the correct spelling of NCAA, that seems to be the road to take.

Do Injured Athletes Get Workers' Compensation?

With big lawsuits involving injured athletes and workers' compensation, it begs the question - do injured athletes get workers' compensation coverage?

www.google.com

 

[hookyIU1990]

A quick look, it all depends on the state. So Indiana can pass a law making students not employees for workers comp.

It appears CA has a rule one has to play for a CA pro team, a Patriots player getting hurt in a CA game doesn't count. In another page I saw FL puts a strict time limit on how long after the injury athletes are covered

Given the NCAA could not win a lawsuit over the correct spelling of NCAA, that seems to be the road to take.

Do Injured Athletes Get Workers' Compensation?

With big lawsuits involving injured athletes and workers' compensation, it begs the question - do injured athletes get workers' compensation coverage?

www.google.com

OK, but Murt is your guy with the workman's comp angle.

there'll still be all of the federal stuff and the back pay for wages (& taxes) to current and former athletes.

 

[mcmurtry66]

OK, but Murt is your guy with the workman's comp angle.

there'll still be all of the federal stuff and the back pay for wages (& taxes) to current and former athletes.

Flsa. Eeoc. Etc

 

[The Original Happy Goat]

I'm starting to worry I'm not going to get to watch Jeopardy tonight.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

OK, but Murt is your guy with the workman's comp angle.

there'll still be all of the federal stuff and the back pay for wages (& taxes) to current and former athletes.

So why would they back pay people from 10 years ago, no one considered them employees at the time.

 

[mcmurtry66]

So why would they back pay people from 10 years ago, no one considered them employees at the time.

Just as an issue going forward

 

[hookyIU1990]

So why would they back pay people from 10 years ago, no one considered them employees at the time.

If it falls under the fair labor standards act, which was why the court denied the NCAA dismissal, then they have to go back 2 or 3 years and pay those people.

 

[Noodle]

If you’re Cincinatti simpleton ass ever said that to me in person I’d smack you silly and then laugh in your face. Bitch.

Watch your mouth.

Okey dokey. Whatever you say chief.

 

[IUCrazy2]

Might as well say "End Hate."

Equal chances of doing both.

Yeah, I know, but this:

 

[BradStevens]

Yeah, I know, but this:

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I get it. Sucks.

 

[stollcpa]

I have a bad feeling there are guys like the terrorist last night and the cell he was probably a part of.

While our FBI was spending time worrying about Catholics and Parents at School Board Meetings, they should have been concentrating on real terrorist threats not political thought Garland didn’t like.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

I have a bad feeling there are guys like the terrorist last night and the cell he was probably a part of.

While our FBI was spending time worrying about Catholics and Parents at School Board Meetings, they should have been concentrating on real terrorist threats not political thought Garland didn’t like.

You're talking about the FBI that foiled the Iranian plot to assassinate Trump? The FBI has different sections to concentrate on different categories of threats. The Counter Terrorism Division is on this. Also Garland is the AG. The FBI works directly for long-time Republican, Trump appointed Wray.

 

[BCCHoosier]

I have a bad feeling there are guys like the terrorist last night and the cell he was probably a part of.

While our FBI was spending time worrying about Catholics and Parents at School Board Meetings, they should have been concentrating on real terrorist threats not political thought Garland didn’t like.

The FBI is capable of doing more than one thing at a time.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/01/nx-s1-5245211/new-orleans-attack-bourbon-street-shamsud-din-jabbar

 

[76-1]

The FBI is capable of doing more than one thing at a time.

Evidently not...

 

[Lucy01]

Where is BLM? Wasn’t this another police shooting?
Has the FBI checked to see if this was an electrical malfunction.

 

[Spartans9312]

Imagine my surprise to wake up and not see a thread started by UTFO on the topic.

 

[Lucy01]

The mayor of New Orleans should be held accountable for this terrorist attack!

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

 

[dbmhoosier]

The CIA 😬

 

[Cortez88]

That kind of thing is more common now that they moved from six divisions to eight. It's just too hard to have any sort of consistent competitive balance across all divisions. There will always be a couple of shitty division champions hosting a couple of really quality wild card teams.

Exactly. They call them the AFC South and the NFC South.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

The CIA 😬

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That man is really inspirational. Am I right?

 

[mushroomgod_1]

The mayor of New Orleans should be held accountable for this terrorist attack!

I wouldn't say the mayor.......but what about the chief of police?? She sounded like a female Elmer Fudd explaining how the terrorist out-witted her by driving up on the sidewalk and around the parked vehicle. WTH??

 

[Lucy01]

I wouldn't say the mayor.......but what about the chief of police?? She sounded like a female Elmer Fudd explaining how the terrorist out-witted her by driving up on the sidewalk and around the parked vehicle. WTH??

The Chief works for the Mayor, so if the Chief is incompetent the Mayor should have replaced her.

 

[mattndallas]

Rankings. An NFL model won't work in college football.

Rankings.

So...like I said...a beauty contest.

 

[Lucy01]

Rankings.

So...like I said...a beauty contest.

Take your sports talk to the football board and quit hijacking the thread!

 

[hookyIU1990]

I wouldn't say the mayor.......but what about the chief of police?? She sounded like a female Elmer Fudd explaining how the terrorist out-witted her by driving up on the sidewalk and around the parked vehicle. WTH??

The governor is the only guy at the podium that seems to be qualified for the job. I've yet to hear anyone else have a grasp of what's going on. The FBI and ATF folks who have taken a turn are pathetic and inspire zero confindence. The bald ATF guy this morning who had to yell over the sound of his pages being turned in his notebook was a joke. Even with his notebook, he couldn't get a clear thought across with any kind of confidence.

 

[snarlcakes]

Imagine my surprise to wake up and not see a thread started by UTFO on the topic.

Me too. The title could be “Brown Muslim Nationalists”. @UTFO are they scarier than White Christian Nationalists? How does this work?

 

[larsIU]

The governor is the only guy at the podium that seems to be qualified for the job. I've yet to hear anyone else have a grasp of what's going on. The FBI and ATF folks who have taken a turn are pathetic and inspire zero confindence. The bald ATF guy this morning who had to yell over the sound of his pages being turned in his notebook was a joke. Even with his notebook, he couldn't get a clear thought across with any kind of confidence.

As a bullshitter thorugh and through, confidence and authoritative delivery (plus eye contact) generally work.

although as I grow older, non verbal communication seems to be far more effective. Subtle eye rolls, looks of confusion or mystery, furrowed brow/pondering.

Being tall helps, not gonna lie. Hair's still holding strong too. Sorry @mcmurtry66

 

[hookyIU1990]

As a bullshitter thorugh and through, confidence and authoritative delivery (plus eye contact) generally work.

although as I grow older, non verbal communication seems to be far more effective. Subtle eye rolls, looks of confusion or mystery, furrowed brow/pondering.

Being tall helps, not gonna lie. Hair's still holding strong too. Sorry @mcmurtry66

 

[mcmurtry66]

As a bullshitter thorugh and through, confidence and authoritative delivery (plus eye contact) generally work.

although as I grow older, non verbal communication seems to be far more effective. Subtle eye rolls, looks of confusion or mystery, furrowed brow/pondering.

Being tall helps, not gonna lie. Hair's still holding strong too. Sorry @mcmurtry66

Don’t sorry me bitch. I have hair like a Jonas brother. Hair is a $50 a month choice. You want lunch at five guys with the kids or hair?

 

[BradStevens]

As a bullshitter thorugh and through, confidence and authoritative delivery (plus eye contact) generally work.

although as I grow older, non verbal communication seems to be far more effective. Subtle eye rolls, looks of confusion or mystery, furrowed brow/pondering.

Being tall helps, not gonna lie. Hair's still holding strong too. Sorry @mcmurtry66

Asshole.

 

[ulrey]

White Supremacy is our biggest threat.

Joe Biden.

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deport Texans!! Lol

 

[JamieDimonsBalls]

Being tall helps, not gonna lie. Hair's still holding strong too. Sorry @mcmurtry66

You are an ass. Some of us are stuck at 5’1”, 315 lbs. with a receding hairline and thick glasses.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Don’t sorry me bitch. I have hair like a Jonas brother. Hair is a $50 a month choice. You want lunch at five guys with the kids or hair?

I’ve saved a lot of money on haircuts, shampoo and combs for over 20 years. Don’t miss it.