You really are a dolt. No one ever claimed if someone is paid the most money they have to win the most games. Expectations are subjective based on programs history, facilities, and numerous other variables. The claim was expectations increase as pay increases. None of your stupid examples disprove that. You’re the only idiot ( and minn) who tried to argue that salary doesn’t affect expectations at all. Also, all NBA jobs are elite, you moron.
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You really are a dolt. No one ever claimed if someone is paid the most money they have to win the most games. Expectations are subjective based on programs history, facilities, and numerous other variables. The claim was expectations increase as pay increases. None of your stupid examples disprove that. You’re the only idiot ( and minn) who tried to argue that salary doesn’t affect expectations at all. Also, all NBA jobs are elite, you moron.
Wrong. You're the idiot who doesn't understand market value and availability. Archie's program expectations are no different than Crean's, Sampson's, Davis, Knight's etc. It simply cost IU $3.2/mil (which is around market value) to acquire the services of Archie Miller. This is what goes above your head and beyond your pay grade.
You telling me that if IU was able to poach Brad Stevens from the Celtics at $4.5/mil a year program expectations would be different that Archie's expectations? Would you be calling for Brad Stevens had at this juncture of his career if his results were similar to Archie's?
It’s all those things and salary. I’m going to assume you don’t have a job, still live with your mom, and wear super hero pajamas to bed.
Your ability to make assumptions is about as bad as your credibility. I'm hurt.
It's not silly. The expectations for an IU coach have nothing to do with salary. Salary is what the market will allow and the coach can negotiate.
If we had paid Crean much less, would we have been happier with him?
Expectations are built into the market and salaries. They are intertwined. If IU suddenly decided to start paying its basketball coaches top 100 money instead of top 10 money my expectations would drastically change. Also, Crean wouldn't have taken the job. Archie wouldn't have taken the job. The pool of candidates would be drastically different and less talented than Archie and Crean (which is saying something).
You really wouldn't change your expectations if IU insisted on paying it's head coach 500K? You would still have the expectation that IU should be a top 10 program and win national titles? Also, if the coach was able to accomplish those goals, you don't think he would leave for another job where he would make significantly more money with lower expectations?
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No they are not, especially not first contracts. The salary for somebody like Archie Miller is all about sign-ability and the market value. Somebody like Archie Miller who was making around a million dollars at Dayton doesn’t command the same market value for somebody like Chris Holtmann who was coaching in a major conference at Butler making twice the amount as Archie. Do you think if IU hired Holtmann and paid him $4/mil a year because that was the going rate to lure him from Butler that his job expectations are any higher than Archie’s? Of course they aren’t. Ohio State got Holtmann for cheaper than what they were paying Matta. Did Ohio State suddenly lower their expectations? Hell no.
I think a great way for you to learn and understand the concept of market value in terms of sports would be to study the MLB draft. This happens every year, a big time college senior will get drafted 4 or 5 rounds ahead of a kid coming directly from high school and there’s a reason for it. A college senior has no eligibility left and has nowhere else to go. He doesn’t hold the leverage in negotiation. A high school senior committed to a D1 school has all the negotiation power. Either sign me for X amount of money or I’m going to college and you wasted a draft pick. Does it mean that college senior has less of an expectation than the unproven high schooler because the high schooler is getting paid a bunch more money? Study up and let me know.
Ok, I kindly ask both sides in this argument to interpret how come Michigan is paying Coach Juan Howard $2m.
They lowered their program expectations, DUHHH!!
In all honesty though they could’ve gotten Howard for closer to a million. Howard was never going to be an NBA head coach and this was his shot to run his own team. Michigan didn’t need to throw $5mil/yr at Howard to remind him what program expectations are and $2mil/yr is more than enough to get his feet wet with this oppprtunity.
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