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Most of what makes MAGA hate the Dept of Education is rooted in lies about what they do

Also, that relevant law has implementing regulations. That law requires those implementing regulations. Who do you think is responsible for those implementing regulations? Who do you think enforces those implementing regulations? Who do you think provides the necessary guidance to schools so that they can comply with those regulations? Who do you think informs parents of their rights under the pertinent law?

I took my son to a job interview the other day, at a well-known restaurant chain. Without that relevant law and the federal agency behind it he would not be where he is today.
What regulations are you talking about?
 
lol So we only come in second to Luxembourg. As I thought, you were making shit up.
I'm just some asshole on a message board. You guys are parroting the leader of the free world. Who happens to be an even bigger asshole and is just as wrong.
 
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And watch...





At least there is still one Republican willing to speak out right now.....



Trump sold out to the highest bidder. And now he sits at the resolute like a little bitch while the master lets his toddler act like he's at Disney world

Nice pivot.
 
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Also, that relevant law has implementing regulations. That law requires those implementing regulations. Who do you think is responsible for those implementing regulations? Who do you think enforces those implementing regulations? Who do you think provides the necessary guidance to schools so that they can comply with those regulations? Who do you think informs parents of their rights under the pertinent law?

I took my son to a job interview the other day, at a well-known restaurant chain. Without that relevant law and the federal agency behind it he would not be where he is today.
I thought your son didn't like the restaurant game. Is he giving it another go?
 
I'm all for actual accounting audits (though a trained person like stollcpa would be better at that than Elon's HS hackers) and stamping out fraud and waste

But there are a lot of misconceptions about the Department and an imagined focus on wokeness. I guess what many consider to be woke are enforcing compliance with things like Title 9.

What the Department of Education does do and what it doesn’t do

It does:
1) Enforce existing federal laws, such as Title IX (sex discrimination), Title VI (race), the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)
2) Ensures disbursement of some specific programmatic funds to public schools, such as special ed programs, programs to support Title 1 (raising educational metrics in low-income communities), programs to teach English to non-native speakers, Pell grants for college students
3) Fights scam institutions, such as Trump University, that take your money in return for next to nothing, fights fraud and any Constitutional rights violations, such as barring access to college housing based on race
4) Supports modernization of teaching methods, such as access to computers
5) Supports STEM programs to increase scientific literacy
6) Oversees student loan programs, payment plans, loan relief plans (none absolving you of all debt)

#6 troubles some people, and I can see that. I see no issues with roles 1-5, as long as funds are not being skimmed by anybody in the process.

What the Department of Education doesn't do:
1) Doesn’t decide curriculum or otherwise dictate what is taught, such as Common Core, or even Evolution as a foundational principle of biology
2) Doesn’t pick textbooks or library books
3) Doesn’t set standards other than to identify any programs that violate Federal laws (such as a class for only students of one race)
4) Doesn’t “run” any public school, which are managed by local and state governments, alone
5) Doesn’t hire or fire teachers, set salaries, set qualifications, or enforce preferred ideologies of teaching candidates. This is SOLELY up to states, communities, and school boards
6) Doesn’t provide any oversight over private schools, other than to enforce Federal law, such as sex or race discrimination
7) Doesn’t set or regulate tuition and fees for any institution at any level

It would seem that the main beef is that they are geared to law-and-order issues, mostly, and MAGA just can have rule of law, if a wannabe dictator disagrees with said laws.
You don’t see how #1 is rife with corruption and WTF approaches?
 
Our McDonald's in town has hired a couple of people with down syndrome over the years.

They are such joy to watch, always with a smile.
That’s so much better. The grocery I go to hires as well. My longtime gf had a sister with downs. She wasn’t as high functioning and worked at a sheltered workshop. That did not seem fun
 
I'm just some asshole on a message board. You guys are parroting the leader of the free world. Who happens to be an even bigger asshole and is just as wrong.
I'm just going by your stats you posted vs your statement that the US barely cracked the top 5 in education spending.

Your own stats prove you wrong.

We're all just assholes posting on a message board. Agreeing with a policy is not 'parroting' anyone.
 
Of course. Has to be included. As crazed said. Across the board. Cut the fck out of dod. Slash it. SS raise age and caps. Medicare get to work
Keeping in mind that SS and Medicare are not entitlement programs. Workers contribute to both of those funds. Inflation caused by reckless spending and fraud reduce the buying power of SS and Medicare payments. My original W-2 (?) Was issued when I was 16 years old. I've been coerced into paying into these funds since then...
According to multiple sources, a dollar withheld when I started the confiscatory rat race could buy $10.18 in goods/services today. The average SS check in 2024 is. $1, 785, or $178.50 in '1964 dollars'....

Even a cave man could recognize this progressive ponzi scheme...

Bernie Madoff was a small time grifter.
 
Keeping in mind that SS and Medicare are not entitlement programs. Workers contribute to both of those funds. Inflation caused by reckless spending and fraud reduce the buying power of SS and Medicare payments. My original W-2 (?) Was issued when I was 16 years old. I've been coerced into paying into these funds since then...
According to multiple sources, a dollar withheld when I started the confiscatory rat race could buy $10.18 in goods/services today. The average SS check in 2024 is. $1, 785, or $178.50 in '1964 dollars'....

Even a cave man could recognize this progressive ponzi scheme...

Bernie Madoff was a small time grifter.
For sure. Have to raise the caps for that intergenerational transfer so guys like you get made “whole”
 
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Remember when people went off the deep end when Bush 2.0 wanted to allow us to privately invest a tiny fraction of our SS contributions?
 
I'm just some asshole on a message board. You guys are parroting the leader of the free world. Who happens to be an even bigger asshole and is just as wrong.
Lets all admit a wee bit of reality. You really are not angry at MAGA, you are angry at yourself for boarding the wrong train. Once WE ALL (hint hint) understand that, admitting the inevitable will be much easier to come to terms with. Just let it out man, it will be very refreshing for you. Acceptance is the first step to healing.
 
Great reminder, thank you. I had forgotten about my bitcoin account after the Friedman BS. I looked today and was very happy. My initial $1,800 investment was down to $5 but now has increased 158.2% !! $19 and some change (But no penny's). 2 more years, and I can take myself to a fried chicken buffett! As long as I convert it to cash first.
 
For sure. Have to raise the caps for that intergenerational transfer so guys like you get made “whole”
I don't 'need' that.
I managed our income to maximize SS.
Cashed my second largest real estate holding two years ago and went all in on metals. The return has been quite satisfactory.
Straightening out this country's fiscal and policy mess is not that difficult.

'When you find yourself in a hole , first stop digging!"
 
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Remember when people went off the deep end when Bush 2.0 wanted to allow us to privately invest a tiny fraction of our SS contributions?
Dems - and some Republicans - demagoged the shit out of W for that. Throwing grandma off the cliff.
 
I'm just going by your stats you posted vs your statement that the US barely cracked the top 5 in education spending.

Your own stats prove you wrong.

We're all just assholes posting on a message board. Agreeing with a policy is not 'parroting' anyone.
Maybe President Trump and everyone here parroting him should actually look at the stats. Might be a little more important for the president to be accurate in his claims than some random asshole on a message.
 
Maybe President Trump and everyone here parroting him should actually look at the stats. Might be a little more important for the president to be accurate in his claims than some random asshole on a message.
What he's saying is what your stats show. The US leads the world in spending on education and has little to show for it on the standard tests.

Where we do excel in is rewarding rish, which is why we lead the world in patents and innovation.

I want our education levels improved, but prefer US society, which isn't burdened by class or where fate is determined in middle school which direction your career will go.
 
What he's saying is what your stats show. The US leads the world in spending on education and has little to show for it on the standard tests.

Where we do excel in is rewarding rish, which is why we lead the world in patents and innovation.

I want our education levels improved, but prefer US society, which isn't burdened by class or where fate is determined in middle school which direction your career will go.
H e said we spend more than any other country per student. And we don't.

Regardless though, what % of what we spend per student is funded by the federal government?
 
H e said we spend more than any other country per student. And we don't.

Regardless though, what % of what we spend per student is funded by the federal government?
One country spends more - Luxembourg. Are you really counting them as a real country?
 
H e said we spend more than any other country per student. And we don't.

Regardless though, what % of what we spend per student is funded by the federal government?

Off the top of my head, the Feds spend about 10% of the total funds for education.

Will get a link on this, unless someone beats me to it.
 
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Off the top of my head, the Feds spend about 10% of the total funds for education.

Will get a link on this, unless someone bests me to it.
Here is the link concerning what percentage of educational spending comes from the federal government which in part states...

About 13.7% or one in every seven dollars of public school funding during the 2021–22 school year. Local and state governments typically provide most school district funding, with the federal government providing the rest. Federal sources provide as little as 0% and as much as 75% of funding, depending on the district. Federal funding depends on factors such as poverty levels and other student demographics, availability of state and local revenues, and whether a district is urban, suburban, or rural. During 2021–22, which is the latest year of data available, public schools received $124.9 billion, or $2,536 in federal funds per student.
 
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Here is the link concerning what percentage of educational spending comes from the federal government which in part states...

About 13.7% or one in every seven dollars of public school funding during the 2021–22 school year. Local and state governments typically provide most school district funding, with the federal government providing the rest. Federal sources provide as little as 0% and as much as 75% of funding, depending on the district. Federal funding depends on factors such as poverty levels and other student demographics, availability of state and local revenues, and whether a district is urban, suburban, or rural. During 2021–22, which is the latest year of data available, public schools received $124.9 billion, or $2,536 in federal funds per student.
So the educational approach with the least government interaction (homeschooling) yields the best outcomes?
 
Think it would be revealing to discover how our K-12 kids spend their time when not in school during the school year as compared to other countries.

My guess is that much of their spare time is spent socializing on cell phones and not on school homework as compared to other countries.

Much to my dismay, virtual education as in learning via the internet has been a complete flop in the U.S. Attempts to learn via the internet during Covid for example when classroom education was shut down simply backfired.

Think of the change in education if students spent time on their cell phones learning instead of socializing.
 
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Here is the link concerning what percentage of educational spending comes from the federal government which in part states...

About 13.7% or one in every seven dollars of public school funding during the 2021–22 school year. Local and state governments typically provide most school district funding, with the federal government providing the rest. Federal sources provide as little as 0% and as much as 75% of funding, depending on the district. Federal funding depends on factors such as poverty levels and other student demographics, availability of state and local revenues, and whether a district is urban, suburban, or rural. During 2021–22, which is the latest year of data available, public schools received $124.9 billion, or $2,536 in federal funds per student.
What percent of that goes to God awful programs like free/reduced lunches and special education?
 
Perhaps if you had a good cry, then watched a couple of episodes of My Little Pony, you'd feel better.
Mass, didn't know about My Little Pony until seeing your post. This link does bring up Fronies who are adult males that became fans of the show. Proving once again how diverse our population has become 😂).
 
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Think it would be revealing to discover how our K-12 kids spend their time when not in school during the school year as compared to other countries.

My guess is that much of their spare time is spent socializing on cell phones and not on school homework as compared to other countries.

Much to my dismay, virtual education as in learning via the internet has been a complete flop in the U.S. Attempts to learn via the internet during Covid for example when classroom education was shut down simply backfired.

Think of the change in education if students spent time on their cell phones learning instead of socializing.
The anxiety that arose from the fear of tik tok being impossible to download if you deleted it was the equivalent of ten years of smoking on these kids
 
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