If you can’t beat them, join them I always say.Is that why you decided to join them and root for a cheating program?
If you can’t beat them, join them I always say.Is that why you decided to join them and root for a cheating program?
What big programs didn’t “cheat” pre-NIL? They all paid players to different extents. It’s just how it worked like it or not.
Now that we’re in the NIL era, former players are being more open about it.
Agree.True, But every program’s fans say everyone cheated but their team. It’s interesting.
Agree.
Imo pre-NIL IU didn’t do near as much player paying as the other big time bball programs — after all we self-reported texts/calls, and our recruiting wasn’t great. But I doubt we were squeaky clean.
I don’t really see other programs as cheaters. Cash payment were part of the game.
said it many times....If we were actively 'cheating' in the 10-20 yrs leading up to NIL like many of the other big time programs, then we were not getting good ROI. We really sucked at the cheating part.Agree.
Imo pre-NIL IU didn’t do near as much player paying as the other big time bball programs — after all we self-reported texts/calls, and our recruiting wasn’t great. But I doubt we were squeaky clean.
I don’t really see other programs as cheaters. Cash payment were part of the game.
We had plenty of overall talent, a lot of the time, from 2000 to 2020...said it many times....If we were actively 'cheating' in the 10-20 yrs leading up to NIL like many of the other big time programs, then we were not getting good ROI. We really sucked at the cheating part.
No it was a shoot…I mean shot at your intelligence.was that supposed to be witty or what?
valid points, and I really cannot respond without mentioning the Masshole...so I'll just pass and move on.We had plenty of overall talent, a lot of the time, from 2000 to 2020...
It wasn't the right kind of talent, and it wasn't consistently coached well.
Our problems as a program are as simple as we haven't had consistently good overall coaching, since the mid 90s. If anything, its been consistently bad.
There are a number of coaching names that could have happened for IU, that would have completely changed the trajectory of our program. We missed or passed on all of them, and we either made horrible choices, or got unlucky with the choices we made.
IU has been playing the game at varying levels...they were when RMK was here even. We've just not had the right coach in place.
I toured with KISS back in the 80s…I don’t have proof…but I know they paid him a lot of money. Someone I know lived in the Cats Den with him.
so you're one of the notches on Gene Simmons' headboard? .I toured with KISS back in the 80s…
Little Richie flirting at band practiceso you're one of the notches on Gene Simmons' headboard?