Mitch on NIL

[bsmitty08]

Who is they? Ncaa can’t stop this.

Universities, NCAA.
Honest question why are you so giddy over this and bash anyone who doesn’t see this making sense or good for the sport? You have a 5 star son you hope gets a big pay day? I never once as a college athlete felt like I was exploited and deserved to be paid. I was going to school for free, eating for free, training for free and allowed my parents to not have any loans for my college.

 

[hookyIU1990]

You are also naïve to think it will continue as is and no changes will be made. This is a broke system now. They need to have regulation and many are admitting this now.

I absolutely agree that it will change, but I don't see the NCAA being the change agent.

 

[bsmitty08]

I absolutely agree that it will change, but I don't see the NCAA being the change agent.

I agree it will be Universities or courts or pro sports teams

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Universities, NCAA.
Honest question why are you so giddy over this and bash anyone who doesn’t see this making sense or good for the sport? You have a 5 star son you hope gets a big pay day? I never once as a college athlete felt like I was exploited and deserved to be paid. I was going to school for free, eating for free, training for free and allowed my parents to not have any loans for my college.

I’m not giddy. The change is long overdue and exploiting student athletics by the universities needed to go. It hasn’t been amateur athletics for 40 years. If it was then schools wouldn’t have shoe contracts and businesses sponsoring them.

 

[bsmitty08]

I’m not giddy. The change is long overdue and exploiting student athletics by the universities needed to go. It hasn’t been amateur athletics for 40 years. If it was then schools wouldn’t have shoe contracts and businesses sponsoring them.

And we disagree. Which is ok

 

[Victorbmyboy]

I agree it will be Universities or courts or pro sports teams

Universities can’t stop it, courts have already spoken. Pro sports doesn’t have a dog in the fight or any power. The only thing that can is congress.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

And we disagree. Which is ok

I’m not sure you understand what we are arguing. You don’t like it but you also don’t fully understand it.

 

[bsmitty08]

Universities can’t stop it, courts have already spoken. Pro sports doesn’t have a dog in the fight or any power. The only thing that can is congress.

Pro sports can. They can allow kids to go pro out of high school. Ncaa can change the transfer rule back.

 

[hookyIU1990]

I agree it will be Universities or courts or pro sports teams

I think it will escalate until the reality of what you're paying for clashes with what you're actually getting and then it will come back to earth.

Football is where you'll see the schools break away from the NCAA first. They already have all the power and see the NCAA as a non load bearing wall that they can do away with to open things up.

Feds getting involved is the wild card. The NCAA got so far behind the 8 ball on the court cases that they finally just gave up and asked for Feds help. Feds wanted nothing to do with it and here we are.

 

[bsmitty08]

I’m not sure you understand what we are arguing. You don’t like it but you also don’t fully understand it.

Yes I do understand it. It hasn’t went as what was allowed by courts.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Pro sports can. They can allow kids to go pro out of high school. Ncaa can change the transfer rule back.

They could now but haven't. That's part of the CBA for a reason. Neither management or the players want it as it takes money away from the veteran players and leads to draft busts and wasted money.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Pro sports can. They can allow kids to go pro out of high school. Ncaa can change the transfer rule back.

Changing 1 and done? That only affects maybe ten kids. I’m all for it. As you are seeing the 1 and done has actually hurt draft stock of some.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Race time. See you later.

 

[IUclover]

Word is Mitch wants to start a new conference so PU can win something. That’s just what I’m hearing. The PU peeps are pushing for relevance in their lives and this is an opportunity.

Like Mitch, assuming this is related to the small man syndrome.

 

[.Gerdis]

I saw Elon Musk wearing a boilermaker hat in an interview saying his biggest dream was to see them win multiple national championships in hoops. Word is he’s willing to fund an annual $100 million dollar payroll for them.

DWS

(would we dislike PU players more if they were all making $10-$20 million /year to play there? Would we dislike the team more if they did this? Would we think that PU is just “ahead of the NIL curve” and they are playing the game better than us? Or, would we criticize them for trying to win in this manner?)

 

[birdforbogey]

True NIL deals yes a school could make that work. The gsme of using NIl as lay for play will be the line drawn. Kids getting million dollars deals before they even enroll is not NIL

I thought the recruits got laid.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

I saw Elon Musk wearing a boilermaker hat in an interview saying his biggest dream was to see them win multiple national championships in hoops. Word is he’s willing to fund an annual $100 million dollar payroll for them.

DWS

(would we dislike PU players more if they were all making $10-$20 million /year to play there? Would we dislike the team more if they did this? Would we think that PU is just “ahead of the NIL curve” and they are playing the game better than us? Or, would we criticize them for trying to win in this manner?)

No we would hate them because they are PUkes

 

[Courtsensetwo]

I thought the recruits got laid.

Only at Louisville

 

[birdforbogey]

Only at Louisville

Who was the stud from the Sampson day’s?

 

[Champs1976]

Guys @Victorbmyboy is the covert on NIL and you speak out who’s t it you are an idiot according to him. To many heavy hitters speaking out against the pay for play model happening. You will see a change. I guarantee it

NCAA has always been pay to play, some schools just did it better than others. Sam Gilbert was doing it for UCLA athletes while John Wooden was painting an unfounded saintly image around himself. You don't think UK, KU or NC haven't been finding a way around the "rules" for decades (Duke to probably)? And Nick Saban whining about it is really rich since he's had a virtual monopoly on the best graduating HS football players for years and NIL stands to put a dent in it. All of the crying and whining goes nowhere because the courts say its OK. Schools that opt out will opt out of national prominence to a greater or lesser degree. Swarbrick and ND, what a bunch of hypocrites.

You guys who think the genie will go back into the bottle are just jerking yourselves. It won't no matter how holier than thou some of these presidents and big names whine. When they start suffering because they don't do it (they may not since their existing methods of getting around the prior pay to play rules were so successful) they'll jump on the bandwagon.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

NCAA has always been pay to play, some schools just did it better than others. Sam Gilbert was doing it for UCLA athletes while John Wooden was painting an unfounded saintly image around himself. You don't think UK, KU or NC haven't been finding a way around the "rules" for decades (Duke to probably)? And Nick Saban whining about it is really rich since he's had a virtual monopoly on the best graduating HS football players for years and NIL stands to put a dent in it. All of the crying and whining goes nowhere because the courts say its OK. Schools that opt out will opt out of national prominence to a greater or lesser degree. Swarbrick and ND, what a bunch of hypocrites.

You guys who think the genie will go back into the bottle are just jerking yourselves. It won't no matter how holier than thou some of these presidents and big names whine. When they start suffering because they don't do it (they may not since their existing methods of getting around the prior pay to play rules were so successful) they'll jump on the bandwagon.

Duke was the best at it. Lots of smoke around that fire.

 

[13thman]

Duke was the best at it. Lots of smoke around that fire.

UCLA was good at it too. Nobody knew until a few former players spilled the beans.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

UCLA was good at it too. Nobody knew until a few former players spilled the beans.

Actually almost everyone in basketball knew it. The general fan didn’t.

 

[13thman]

Actually almost everyone in basketball knew it. The general fan didn’t.

Yeah, that's what I meant. Like I tell my employees, listen to what I mean not what I say.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

If Mitch wants to keep with the times he aught to quit bitching and start paying players.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

As usual, he’s not wrong.

Saban said basically the same thing. And he, too, was not wrong. They can put as much lipstick as they want on this pig. It’ll still be a pig.

Lol at Saban if he thinks the fans are dumb enough to believe Bama wasn’t paying players during the dynasty

 

[Grateful Redbeard]

Mitch is a cuckold