Minutes Breakdown

[IUNorth]

Man...has anyone tried to lay out our lineups yet? Its astonishing how much more solid this roster is than anything Woody has had yet at IU.

Point Guard Spot (40 minutes)... Rice starts, Cupps backs up, Carlyle plays some, Gallo plays some
Two Guard Spot (40 minutes)...Carlyle starts, Gallo plays some, Newton if healthy plays some, Leal/Hemenway if signed play some
Three Spot (40 minutes)...Mgbako starts, but slides over to the 4 often, Tucker plays a lot, Goode needs some minutes here, Gallo could play here some, Newton could play here some
Four Spot (40 minutes)...Reneau starts, slides over to 5 some, Mgbako will get a lot of minutes here, Goode could get some time here alongside Tucker, bench guy we've yet to sign maybe too
Five Spot (40 minutes)...Ballo starts, Reneau plays here some, backup big hopefully here as well, maybe some 5 guard lineup stuff with Mgbako here

Rice...30 minutes (Reigning PAC 12 frosh of the year, helped lead WSU to NCAA tourney...I think he's our most important newcomer)
Mgbako...30 minutes (he'll be played in multiple positions, and should be All B10 level player)
Carlyle...25 minutes (I have a feeling this could push higher by years end, he's really good)
Reneau...25 minutes (This could be more if he improves his defense, and fouls less)
Ballo...23 minutes (he's been a 20 ish mpg game guy, we don't have a lot of depth in the front court though)
Tucker...20 minutes (highly rated freshman, good defender, versatile, should keep him on the court)
Galloway...20 minutes (can play 1-3 positions, he'll fill in enough lineup cracks to be on the court a fair bit)
Goode...17 minutes (Decent size, good shooter, can play 3/4 positions, so he'll get some extended minutes)

If my math is right, that would leave around 10 minutes of PT left. I do think Cupps will be a regular backup to Rice. So he'll play some in every game, I'd predict. Backup big? Hemenway? Newton? Leal?

Think about last years team, even Woody's first two teams. Cupps and Leal both did play a lot last year. Newton would have played a lot. A guy like Hemenway would have played a fair bit. If the backup big is solid, in any way, he would have played a fair bit. Its crazy how much more solid, and deep our roster is.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

Man...has anyone tried to lay out our lineups yet? Its astonishing how much more solid this roster is than anything Woody has had yet at IU.

Point Guard Spot (40 minutes)... Rice starts, Cupps backs up, Carlyle plays some, Gallo plays some
Two Guard Spot (40 minutes)...Carlyle starts, Gallo plays some, Newton if healthy plays some, Leal/Hemenway if signed play some
Three Spot (40 minutes)...Mgbako starts, but slides over to the 4 often, Tucker plays a lot, Goode needs some minutes here, Gallo could play here some, Newton could play here some
Four Spot (40 minutes)...Reneau starts, slides over to 5 some, Mgbako will get a lot of minutes here, Goode could get some time here alongside Tucker, bench guy we've yet to sign maybe too
Five Spot (40 minutes)...Ballo starts, Reneau plays here some, backup big hopefully here as well, maybe some 5 guard lineup stuff with Mgbako here

Rice...30 minutes (Reigning PAC 12 frosh of the year, helped lead WSU to NCAA tourney...I think he's our most important newcomer)
Mgbako...30 minutes (he'll be played in multiple positions, and should be All B10 level player)
Carlyle...25 minutes (I have a feeling this could push higher by years end, he's really good)
Reneau...25 minutes (This could be more if he improves his defense, and fouls less)
Ballo...23 minutes (he's been a 20 ish mpg game guy, we don't have a lot of depth in the front court though)
Tucker...20 minutes (highly rated freshman, good defender, versatile, should keep him on the court)
Galloway...20 minutes (can play 1-3 positions, he'll fill in enough lineup cracks to be on the court a fair bit)
Goode...17 minutes (Decent size, good shooter, can play 3/4 positions, so he'll get some extended minutes)

If my math is right, that would leave around 10 minutes of PT left. I do think Cupps will be a regular backup to Rice. So he'll play some in every game, I'd predict. Backup big? Hemenway? Newton? Leal?

Think about last years team, even Woody's first two teams. Cupps and Leal both did play a lot last year. Newton would have played a lot. A guy like Hemenway would have played a fair bit. If the backup big is solid, in any way, he would have played a fair bit. Its crazy how much more solid, and deep our roster is.

Here's what I got (not necessarily what I'd like, but what I think happens):

MR 30
Bako 28
Ballo 27
Rice 25
Carlyle 18
Gallo 18
Goode 15
Tucker 10
Cupps 9
Leal 7
Newton 7
Backup 5, 6

 

[Cavanagh]

I will bet anyone Newton plays more minutes than Cupps this year.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

Mgbako , all big 10 player, I don't see it. if he thinks he a future NBA player he really needs to step up this year. He has a little bit of Langford in him the reputation has far outweighed the production. good spot up shooter hasn't really shown me much else in his game. he did start going to the basket towards the end of the year, but he lacks the elite athleticism to go by people and it hinders his defense also.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

I will bet anyone Newton plays more minutes than Cupps this year.

don't put the kiss of death on Newton, I think he's going to be a player.

 

[IndyResident16]

Once conference season starts:

1: Rice 30/Galloway 7 (37)
2: Carlyle 28/Galloway 9 (37)
3: Mgbako 17/Tucker 16/Galloway 7 (40)
4: Reneau 14/Mgbako 12/Goode 14 (40)
5: Ballo 25/ Reneau 13 (38)

Breakdown:
Rice (30)
Mgbako (29)
Carlyle (28)
Reneau (27)
Ballo (25)
Galloway (23)
Tucker (16)
Goode (14)

I see 6 available minutes for some combination of Leal, Cupps, Newton, and Hemenway for two back court spots and 2 available minutes for a back up big.

I think our best lineup is going to be some combination of Rice, Carlyle, Mgbako, Goode and Ballo/Reneau. Not sure I trust Woodson though to play more of it though, if so Goode will cut into Galloway/Tucker minutes.

 

[bsmitty08]

Man...has anyone tried to lay out our lineups yet? Its astonishing how much more solid this roster is than anything Woody has had yet at IU.

Point Guard Spot (40 minutes)... Rice starts, Cupps backs up, Carlyle plays some, Gallo plays some
Two Guard Spot (40 minutes)...Carlyle starts, Gallo plays some, Newton if healthy plays some, Leal/Hemenway if signed play some
Three Spot (40 minutes)...Mgbako starts, but slides over to the 4 often, Tucker plays a lot, Goode needs some minutes here, Gallo could play here some, Newton could play here some
Four Spot (40 minutes)...Reneau starts, slides over to 5 some, Mgbako will get a lot of minutes here, Goode could get some time here alongside Tucker, bench guy we've yet to sign maybe too
Five Spot (40 minutes)...Ballo starts, Reneau plays here some, backup big hopefully here as well, maybe some 5 guard lineup stuff with Mgbako here

Rice...30 minutes (Reigning PAC 12 frosh of the year, helped lead WSU to NCAA tourney...I think he's our most important newcomer)
Mgbako...30 minutes (he'll be played in multiple positions, and should be All B10 level player)
Carlyle...25 minutes (I have a feeling this could push higher by years end, he's really good)
Reneau...25 minutes (This could be more if he improves his defense, and fouls less)
Ballo...23 minutes (he's been a 20 ish mpg game guy, we don't have a lot of depth in the front court though)
Tucker...20 minutes (highly rated freshman, good defender, versatile, should keep him on the court)
Galloway...20 minutes (can play 1-3 positions, he'll fill in enough lineup cracks to be on the court a fair bit)
Goode...17 minutes (Decent size, good shooter, can play 3/4 positions, so he'll get some extended minutes)

If my math is right, that would leave around 10 minutes of PT left. I do think Cupps will be a regular backup to Rice. So he'll play some in every game, I'd predict. Backup big? Hemenway? Newton? Leal?

Think about last years team, even Woody's first two teams. Cupps and Leal both did play a lot last year. Newton would have played a lot. A guy like Hemenway would have played a fair bit. If the backup big is solid, in any way, he would have played a fair bit. It’s crazy how much more solid, and deep our roster is.

Will Woody sub like a hockey coach?

 

[kkott]

Man...has anyone tried to lay out our lineups yet? Its astonishing how much more solid this roster is than anything Woody has had yet at IU.

Point Guard Spot (40 minutes)... Rice starts, Cupps backs up, Carlyle plays some, Gallo plays some
Two Guard Spot (40 minutes)...Carlyle starts, Gallo plays some, Newton if healthy plays some, Leal/Hemenway if signed play some
Three Spot (40 minutes)...Mgbako starts, but slides over to the 4 often, Tucker plays a lot, Goode needs some minutes here, Gallo could play here some, Newton could play here some
Four Spot (40 minutes)...Reneau starts, slides over to 5 some, Mgbako will get a lot of minutes here, Goode could get some time here alongside Tucker, bench guy we've yet to sign maybe too
Five Spot (40 minutes)...Ballo starts, Reneau plays here some, backup big hopefully here as well, maybe some 5 guard lineup stuff with Mgbako here

Rice...30 minutes (Reigning PAC 12 frosh of the year, helped lead WSU to NCAA tourney...I think he's our most important newcomer)
Mgbako...30 minutes (he'll be played in multiple positions, and should be All B10 level player)
Carlyle...25 minutes (I have a feeling this could push higher by years end, he's really good)
Reneau...25 minutes (This could be more if he improves his defense, and fouls less)
Ballo...23 minutes (he's been a 20 ish mpg game guy, we don't have a lot of depth in the front court though)
Tucker...20 minutes (highly rated freshman, good defender, versatile, should keep him on the court)
Galloway...20 minutes (can play 1-3 positions, he'll fill in enough lineup cracks to be on the court a fair bit)
Goode...17 minutes (Decent size, good shooter, can play 3/4 positions, so he'll get some extended minutes)

If my math is right, that would leave around 10 minutes of PT left. I do think Cupps will be a regular backup to Rice. So he'll play some in every game, I'd predict. Backup big? Hemenway? Newton? Leal?

Think about last years team, even Woody's first two teams. Cupps and Leal both did play a lot last year. Newton would have played a lot. A guy like Hemenway would have played a fair bit. If the backup big is solid, in any way, he would have played a fair bit. Its crazy how much more solid, and deep our roster is.

IMO it's just mental masturbation (actually, I think regular masturbation serves more of a purpose, but a former boss used the phrase and I always liked it) to predict minutes for freshmen (and Newton in this case, too) and once you have 1 or 2 of those in there, it blows up all the other predictions. I like how you did the first paragraph though with each spot and who might play there. And, until I see CMW more likely to get away from 2 bigs, I'm not believing he's going to 5 guards/wings. Don't see it happening. I have no idea how many minutes he'll get, it I'll be really disappointed if Leal isn't getting regular minutes to start the season with how he played this year. Thought he was very sound with decision-making, rebounding and hustle and OK jumper so I thought he was a big help and was partially responsible for our improvement to end the year.

 

[IndyResident16]

IMO it's just mental masturbation (actually, I think regular masturbation serves more of a purpose, but a former boss used the phrase and I always liked it) to predict minutes for freshmen (and Newton in this case, too) and once you have 1 or 2 of those in there, it blows up all the other predictions. I like how you did the first paragraph though with each spot and who might play there. And, until I see CMW more likely to get away from 2 bigs, I'm not believing he's going to 5 guards/wings. Don't see it happening. I have no idea how many minutes he'll get, it I'll be really disappointed if Leal isn't getting regular minutes to start the season with how he played this year. Thought he was very sound with decision-making, rebounding and hustle and OK jumper so I thought he was a big help and was partially responsible for our improvement to end the year.

I think it's important to note that you will see a lot of rotations and minutes in the non-conference, that's the purpose it serves. But rotations will shorten and so will the bench as the conference slate ramps up.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

IMO it's just mental masturbation (actually, I think regular masturbation serves more of a purpose, but a former boss used the phrase and I always liked it) to predict minutes for freshmen (and Newton in this case, too) and once you have 1 or 2 of those in there, it blows up all the other predictions. I like how you did the first paragraph though with each spot and who might play there. And, until I see CMW more likely to get away from 2 bigs, I'm not believing he's going to 5 guards/wings. Don't see it happening. I have no idea how many minutes he'll get, it I'll be really disappointed if Leal isn't getting regular minutes to start the season with how he played this year. Thought he was very sound with decision-making, rebounding and hustle and OK jumper so I thought he was a big help and was partially responsible for our improvement to end the year.

he was but if he plays anything more than mop up minutes, we didn't really improve the roster.

 

[IUNorth]

Mgbako , all big 10 player, I don't see it. if he thinks he a future NBA player he really needs to step up this year. He has a little bit of Langford in him the reputation has far outweighed the production. good spot up shooter hasn't really shown me much else in his game. he did start going to the basket towards the end of the year, but he lacks the elite athleticism to go by people and it hinders his defense also.

I get the sentiment...but he was B10 Frosh of the year, and showed just about as much in season improvement as any freshman I've ever seen at IU. It won't take a ton more improvement on his part, to make one of the All B10 teams. And that's just thinking in abstract, without considering all the guys that graduated or left the conference versus who is coming in to the conference.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

I get the sentiment...but he was B10 Frosh of the year, and showed just about as much in season improvement as any freshman I've ever seen at IU. It won't take a ton more improvement on his part, to make one of the All B10 teams. And that's just thinking in abstract, without considering all the guys that graduated or left the conference versus who is coming in to the conference.

he needs to get some dog in him, just floats around too much for me, there's a reason Nebraska kicked our ass, they played 5x harder. I think he's one of those guys that was anointed to young and has no clue the effort it's going to take to reach his potential. next season is going to pivotal for his long term career.

 

[mrhighlife]

Will Woody sub like a hockey coach?

Probably. But more accurately he subs like an NBA coach. Like there is 12 minute quarters broken up by multiple timeouts. And it's an 82 plus game season.

I will say, his teams should never be "gassed" by the end of the season.

 

[.Gerdis]

Will Woody sub like a hockey coach?

If he does (and follows what he has done in the past), yes but only during non con., then tighten things up in conference play.

 

[IUNorth]

IMO it's just mental masturbation (actually, I think regular masturbation serves more of a purpose, but a former boss used the phrase and I always liked it) to predict minutes for freshmen (and Newton in this case, too) and once you have 1 or 2 of those in there, it blows up all the other predictions. I like how you did the first paragraph though with each spot and who might play there. And, until I see CMW more likely to get away from 2 bigs, I'm not believing he's going to 5 guards/wings. Don't see it happening. I have no idea how many minutes he'll get, it I'll be really disappointed if Leal isn't getting regular minutes to start the season with how he played this year. Thought he was very sound with decision-making, rebounding and hustle and OK jumper so I thought he was a big help and was partially responsible for our improvement to end the year.

Oh, obviously any lineup predictions, in April, with 2 roster spots yet to be filled...aren't likely to be accurate. One of the main points of the post was to show how much more solid this team should be than any of Woody's other teams...and how that could effect minutes for some guys we're used to seeing on the court.

Also, agree on Leal. Leal was one of the main reasons we started playing better at the end of the year. X returning, Leal playing a little more, and Mgbako's improvements...made us a much more competitive team at year's end (minus the last game, which has been the norm for Woody).

 

[kkott]

I think it's important to note that you will see a lot of rotations and minutes in the non-conference, that's the purpose it serves. But rotations will shorten and so will the bench as the conference slate ramps up.

will we? I feel like that's what we should've been doing, but in my recollection, Woody has been very committed to his lineups and rotations and hasn't experimented as much as I would like to see in the preseason. Do you think I'm wrong?

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Once conference season starts:

1: Rice 30/Galloway 7 (37)
2: Carlyle 28/Galloway 9 (37)
3: Mgbako 17/Tucker 16/Galloway 7 (40)
4: Reneau 14/Mgbako 12/Goode 14 (40)
5: Ballo 25/ Reneau 13 (38)

Breakdown:
Rice (30)
Mgbako (29)
Carlyle (28)
Reneau (27)
Ballo (25)
Galloway (23)
Tucker (16)
Goode (14)

I see 6 available minutes for some combination of Leal, Cupps, Newton, and Hemenway for two back court spots and 2 available minutes for a back up big.

I think our best lineup is going to be some combination of Rice, Carlyle, Mgbako, Goode and Ballo/Reneau. Not sure I trust Woodson though to play more of it though, if so Goode will cut into Galloway/Tucker minutes.

Yes. Pre conference will be frustrating for some to watch I think.

 

[.Gerdis]

I’ve done this exercise in seasons past (the last few years I believe), and it seems these threads often end up leaving people feeling that our biggest problem is finding minutes for everyone, and that this season we are deeper than we’ve been in decades.

Perhaps this offseason is finally the one where everyone is right. It does appear that we have put together a team in a thoughtful manner, and most of the key pieces seem to be of the more proven (in college) type.

However, call me superstitious, but I’m going to take a more wait and see attitude this season.

 

[.Gerdis]

will we? I feel like that's what we should've been doing, but in my recollection, Woody has been very committed to his lineups and rotations and hasn't experimented as much as I would like to see in the preseason. Do you think I'm wrong?

The experimenting in the preseason has frustrated me. Rather than seeing how one “bench” player may fit in with supposed starters, the hockey lines we see don’t address this. I don’t care how four bench players doing a mass substitution look when together vs North Acron State in November. The bench tightens, and we should be seeing how different combos in a tight rotation play together. That is experimenting.

If you want to see how a hockey line plays together, you can watch the red and white scrimmage.

 

[Cavanagh]

don't put the kiss of death on Newton, I think he's going to be a player.

Bitch please. I did that last year and he already missed the season. I can’t jinx him twice 😘

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

will we? I feel like that's what we should've been doing, but in my recollection, Woody has been very committed to his lineups and rotations and hasn't experimented as much as I would like to see in the preseason. Do you think I'm wrong?

He experimented a ton with players in the preseason which got the usual complainers riled up. The preseason is the time to experiment with different mixes of players to see what clicks in game situations. That once was a very common practice with all the good programs and coaches. Knight did it quite a bit for example. I really enjoy seeing it. Last year in the close games to lesser opponents they wouldn't have been so close if he wasn't experimenting, but with the exception of one of them, I never felt we really had a chance to lose. The problem, and this is where the complainers are right, scoring margins matter in NET. I don't think they should matter so much, but they do. That won't matter much at all if this team wins as much in the B1G as they should.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

don't put the kiss of death on Newton, I think he's going to be a player.

He's going to put the Bates Curse on him!

 

[MG80]

Mgbako , all big 10 player, I don't see it. if he thinks he a future NBA player he really needs to step up this year. He has a little bit of Langford in him the reputation has far outweighed the production. good spot up shooter hasn't really shown me much else in his game. he did start going to the basket towards the end of the year, but he lacks the elite athleticism to go by people and it hinders his defense also.

I'm not saying he's remotely as good, but he reminds me a little of Scottie May. He's got that mid-range game and is able to shoot it from deep and has the quick release. He was very good during our stretch run and really improved his rebounding and defense during that time. IMHO you are selling him short. He was just a fresh-he's going to get better and physically stronger and will now be surrounded by much better players. He could very well become one of the better players in the league.

 

[Middawg]

My hope is Newton and Tucker are capable of getting 15 mins plus in the buy games.

If that's happening, and Gallo/Goode off the bench, you will essentially be playing a full second unit for long durations, more than likely.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

I will bet anyone Newton plays more minutes than Cupps this year.

He will either play 12 or 2 depending on what we see. He says he is healthy

 

[kurt cloverdales]

I'm not saying he's remotely as good, but he reminds me a little of Scottie May. He's got that mid-range game and is able to shoot it from deep and has the quick release. He was very good during our stretch run and really improved his rebounding and defense during that time. IMHO you are selling him short. He was just a fresh-he's going to get better and physically stronger and will now be surrounded by much better players. He could very well become one of the better players in the league.

I hope you are right. time will tell, if he was rated 210 out of high school instead of 10th, I'd probably look at him different. when I won the 1st grade spelling bee, I think it raised my mother's expectations way beyond what most would think is realistic. but somehow, I ended up exceeding them.

 

[IndyResident16]

I hope you are right. time will tell, if he was rated 210 out of high school instead of 10th, I'd probably look at him different. when I won the 1st grade spelling bee, I think it raised my mother's expectations way beyond what most would think is realistic. but somehow, I ended up exceeding them.

He played like what a top 10 freshman should look like the last 20 or so games of the season. Not all these guys come in looking like All-American's from the opening tip.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

He played like what a top 10 freshman should look like the last 20 or so games of the season. Not all these guys come in looking like All-American's from the opening tip.

When I think top 10, I think future lottery pick. Unless he improves, I don't see him as an NBA player, time will tell some players make big jumps fresh to soph like Ware, others pretty much are who they are.

 

[IndyResident16]

When I think top 10, I think future lottery pick. Unless he improves, I don't see him as an NBA player, time will tell some players make big jumps fresh to soph like Ware, others pretty much are who they are.

Silly assertion. Of the top 10 2023 recruits, only five are projected lottery picks. Two of them didn't even play college ball. From a production standpoint, Mgbako outperformed all but 2-3. At no point was Mgbako ever projected to be a freshman lottery pick, most had him end of 1st round, early 2nd round. His athleticism was always called into question. If Mgbako shoots the way he did in the B10 all of next season, he will find a home in the NBA.

 

[IUNorth]

Silly assertion. Of the top 10 2023 recruits, only five are projected lottery picks. Two of them didn't even play college ball. From a production standpoint, Mgbako outperformed all but 2-3. At no point was Mgbako ever projected to be a freshman lottery pick, most had him end of 1st round, early 2nd round. His athleticism was always called into question. If Mgbako shoots the way he did in the B10 all of next season, he will find a home in the NBA.

I do still think he's going to need to show he can defend a lot better... and probably be a fair bit stronger with the ball going to the basket...but shooting will end up being what makes him a lot of money playing bball, if anything does.

 

[GThomas]

Here's what I got (not necessarily what I'd like, but what I think happens):

MR 30
Bako 28
Ballo 27
Rice 25
Carlyle 18
Gallo 18
Goode 15
Tucker 10
Cupps 9
Leal 7
Newton 7
Backup 5, 6

Leal won't see the floor now that IU appears to have quality guard depth.

 

[iubud]

I will bet anyone Newton plays more minutes than Cupps this year.

I was thinking the same thing. Newton is an unknown at the college level, but he had shown a lot of promise.

We have a lot of potential lineups and combinations and we can go with three guards, Mgbako and Reneau/Ballo, or playing Mgbako and Tucker together with 3 guards if we wanted to go smaller and quick.

I don't want to get too excited, but I like having the ability to attack another team's weakness by lineup adjustments.

 

[Cavanagh]

I was thinking the same thing. Newton is an unknown at the college level, but he had shown a lot of promise.

We have a lot of potential lineups and combinations and we can go with three guards, Mgbako and Reneau/Ballo, or playing Mgbako and Tucker together with 3 guards if we wanted to go smaller and quick.

I don't want to get too excited, but I like having the ability to attack another team's weakness by lineup adjustments.

Mack Tucker Newton Rice and Kanaan. Now that is a line up.

 

[kkott]

I will bet anyone Newton plays more minutes than Cupps this year.

Let me think on that one, but I think I'll take that bet.

 

[kkott]

Let me think on that one, but I think I'll take that bet.

I don't gamble much more than lunch, but I know you like to gamble. Not sure what a meaningful amount is for you: $300-400? Void if either player misses more than 3 consecutive games due to injury? Deal?

 

[IUNorth]

I don't gamble much more than lunch, but I know you like to gamble. Not sure what a meaningful amount is for you: $300-400? Void if either player misses more than 3 consecutive games due to injury? Deal?

Not sure I'd bet on it...but I'm more with your sentiment than I am Cavs. And I LOVE what I think Newton could be as a player! I just feel pretty strongly that Cupps will start the year as Rice's primary backup...so there are 10ish minutes in basically every game for Cupps. Add in foul trouble nights for Rice, blowouts, times when Woody wants Cupps defensive energy and spark... I think its very possible he ends up playing a fair bit again this year.

Newton is a wild card in a lot of different ways.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

Not sure I'd bet on it...but I'm more with your sentiment than I am Cavs. And I LOVE what I think Newton could be as a player! I just feel pretty strongly that Cupps will start the year as Rice's primary backup...so there are 10ish minutes in basically every game for Cupps. Add in foul trouble nights for Rice, blowouts, times when Woody wants Cupps defensive energy and spark... I think its very possible he ends up playing a fair bit again this year.

Newton is a wild card in a lot of different ways.

The main reason to go with Knot on this one is who he's going against. if Cav was a baseball player, he would hit about .080 but would take 3 huge swings every at bat. might hit the occasional home run but more often than not heading back to the dugout with a what went wrong look on his face.

 

[kkott]

The main reason to go with Knot on this one is who he's going against. if Cav was a baseball player, he would hit about .080 but would take 3 huge swings every at bat. might hit the occasional home run but more often than not heading back to the dugout with a what went wrong look on his face.

would you guys stfu?

Just kidding, if I win, I was planning to donate it in honor of Romeo Langford and in Cav's name to the Hoosier Hysterics NIL group, anyway!

 

[IUNorth]

would you guys stfu?

Just kidding, if I win, I was planning to donate it in honor of Romeo Langford and in Cav's name to the Hoosier Hysterics NIL group, anyway!

I'm not sure I want you to win. Newton's potential impact is probably quite a lot higher than Cupps is. But I think Gabe has some baked in minutes that are his to lose. And there are so many unknowns with Newtons situation, AND he's competing against more people for minutes at the 2-3 spot. IF though, if he's fully healthy, and can forge a main rotation role for himself...that means he's taking minutes from multiple guys like Carlyle, Galloway, Tucker, Goode, Leal, even Mgbako to a small extent. That would have to imply some really cool things for Newton and for the team.

 

[kkott]

I'm not sure I want you to win. Newton's potential impact is probably quite a lot higher than Cupps is. But I think Gabe has some baked in minutes that are his to lose. And there are so many unknowns with Newtons situation, AND he's competing against more people for minutes at the 2-3 spot. IF though, if he's fully healthy, and can forge a main rotation role for himself...that means he's taking minutes from multiple guys like Carlyle, Galloway, Tucker, Goode, Leal, even Mgbako to a small extent. That would have to imply some really cool things for Newton and for the team.

agree totally. Cupps is the only "true" PG we have behind Rice, imo. And we have a logjam of wings, and Newton hasn't played much meaningful ball for 2 years, so... But I agree, if he were to get minutes that would mean he's playing extremely well and earning minutes, so that is probably better for IU. But, I also know Cupps is going to work hard and if he focuses on his D, improving his shot selection and FG% a bit and finding more ways to score the ball, he could be extremely valuable too. So, a bet you can't really lose isn't terrible, is my thinking. But, c'mon, a donation in Cav's name to HH in honor of Romeo Langford?