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No, because that's what the statistics say.

DEI was killing military recruitment. That's over now, thank God.
The statistics show no such thing. Link something that indicates that. I’m no fan of DEI, but I seriously doubt DEI is even a top 20 consideration one way or the other for young recruits.
 
The statistics show no such thing. Link something that indicates that. I’m no fan of DEI, but I seriously doubt DEI is even a top 20 consideration one way or the other for young recruits.
OMG..... you can't be serious. Look at the recruiting numbers. Do you think it's because they want more of Biden's policies?

You must be up way past your bed time if you want to argue this issue. It's not even close.
 
OMG..... you can't be serious. Look at the recruiting numbers. Do you think it's because they want more of Biden's policies?

You must be up way past your bed time if you want to argue this issue. It's not even close.
Of course I’m serious. The previous fiscal year was way up over the one before that. Before Trump was elected, and his election was not a factor. A very small fraction of the young people we recruit care about politics. What we have here is a clear case of you WANTING the election of Trump to be THE motivation and it just isn’t and you have absolutely no proof that it is.

I interviewed every new Sailor in my last two ships after they reported. You know how many mentioned the President (Bush and Obama) or politics as a reason they joined? Exactly ZERO. That’s hundreds of Sailors. You MAGAs that think Trump is the factor are only projecting your unhealthy love for the man onto young people that think you are a delusional old man with a creepy man crush. No offense. 😄
 
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Of course I’m serious. The previous fiscal year was way up over the one before that. Before Trump was elected, and his election was not a factor. A very small fraction of the young people we recruit care about politics. What we have here is a clear case of you WANTING the election of Trump to be THE motivation and it just isn’t and you have absolutely no proof that it is.

I interviewed every new Sailor in my last two ships after they reported. You know how many mentioned the President (Bush and Obama) or politics as a reason they joined? Exactly ZERO. That’s hundreds of Sailors. You MAGAs that think Trump is the factor are only projecting your unhealthy love for the man onto young people that think you are a delusional old man with a creepy man crush. No offense. 😄
The numbers increased, but recruiting goals weren't being met. Incremental increases mean nothing. The military is now meeting its recruiting goals under Trump and they weren't before.

You can try to play with numbers all you want, but recruiting is way up under Trump.

Biden wasn't President when you interviewed your sailors.
 
The numbers increased, but recruiting goals weren't being met. Incremental increases mean nothing. The military is now meeting its recruiting goals under Trump and they weren't before.

You can try to play with numbers all you want, but recruiting is way up under Trump.

Biden wasn't President when you interviewed your sailors.
Motivations for joining the military haven’t changed and who’s President isn’t one of them. It’s a dumb argument to make.
 
Motivations for joining the military haven’t changed and who’s President isn’t one of them. It’s a dumb argument to make.
Real or perceived…the previous administration was seen as alienating a very large group that historically made up a large part of the recruits.

Personally, I know of one guy who waited until the election results to decide to join.
 
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Real or perceived…the previous administration was seen as alienating a very large group that historically made up a large part of the recruits.

Personally, I know of one guy who waited until the election results to decide to join.
Perceived. Recruiting is continually studied to see what motivates enlistments. I’ve never seen any that lists who the President is as a factor. It may be for some small percentage, but it’s not a big motivator or demotivator.
 
Perceived. Recruiting is continually studied to see what motivates enlistments. I’ve never seen any that lists who the President is as a factor. It may be for some small percentage, but it’s not a big motivator or demotivator.
President or policies?

The previous administration didn’t look positively toward straight white males with only a high school education.

That’s a large part of volunteers.
 
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Motivations for joining the military haven’t changed and who’s President isn’t one of them. It’s a dumb argument to make.
And yet, it's had a dramatic effect since Trump was elected.

You can ignore all the evidence you want. It doesn't affect anything one way or the other.
 
And yet, it's had a dramatic effect since Trump was elected.

You can ignore all the evidence you want. It doesn't affect anything one way or the other.
You don’t have evidence. You’re making a dumb Trumpster argument.
 
I know you can Google. Don't be obtuse.
There is no study that finds that recruiting is significantly impacted, up or down, by whoever the President is. Google it. I'd say don't be obtuse, but you can't help it.
 
There is no study that finds that recruiting is significantly impacted, up or down, by whoever the President is. Google it. I'd say don't be obtuse, but you can't help it.
You'd say obtuse but then you'd just be repeating something I already said.

You go by studies - I go by facts. Fact is, the Trump Presidency has greatly improved military recruiting and the numbers show it. But you do you.
 
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You'd say obtuse but then you'd just be repeating something I already said.

You go by studies - I go by facts. Fact is, the Trump Presidency has greatly improved military recruiting and the numbers show it. But you do you.
The facts don’t say it’s because Trump is President, that’s just you and man crush talking. You make very dumb arguments.
 
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The facts don’t say it’s because Trump is President, that’s just you and man crush talking. You make very dumb arguments.
I'm sure the elimination of DEI has had no effect.

If I spent months at a time at sea with other men, I wouldn't be talking about someone else have a man crush.
 
I'm sure the elimination of DEI has had no effect.

If I spent months at a time at sea with other men, I wouldn't be talking about someone else have a man crush.
Very lame.

Did you know that all the services met their FY24 recruiting goals? I did. Do you understand that FY24 ended before Trump was elected? Do you know that FY25 recruiting is going at the same pace? Do you now understand that your argument is extremely dumb, man crush boy?

 
Very lame.

Did you know that all the services met their FY24 recruiting goals? I did. Do you understand that FY24 ended before Trump was elected? Do you know that FY25 recruiting is going at the same pace? Do you now understand that your argument is extremely dumb, man crush boy?

I already explained to you the effect Trump had when it looked like he was going to win.
 
I already explained to you the effect Trump had when it looked like he was going to win.
That was a very dumb comment. Moronic, in fact. FY24 started 1 OCT 2023 and ended at the end of September 2024. Trump was absolutely not a factor.
 
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That was a very dumb comment. Moronic, in fact. FY24 started 1 OCT 2023 and ended at the end of September 2024. Trump was absolutely not a factor.
It wasn't even a question Trump would win in July, 2024.

The only thing that's dumb is you thinking Trump didn't have a positive effect on recruiting.
 
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It wasn't even a question Trump would win in July, 2024.

The only thing that's dumb is you thinking Trump didn't have a positive effect on recruiting.
Now you’re attempting to rewrite history! You lost this argument bigly. I purposely didn’t let you know that they met FY24 recruiting goals to let you continue with being dumb. You should stop. That you made a very dumb argument is known by everyone now.

Did you enlist for Nixon or Carter?
 
Now you’re attempting to rewrite history! You lost this argument bigly. I purposely didn’t let you know that they met FY24 recruiting goals to let you continue with being dumb. You should stop. That you made a very dumb argument is known by everyone now.

Did you enlist for Nixon or Carter?
I knew it because I explained it to you. Thinking you have some gotcha moment is hilarious, after I already explained it.

I enlisted knowing I wouldn't be hindered by my race.
 
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I knew it because I explained it to you. Thinking you have some gotcha moment is hilarious, after I already explained it.

I enlisted knowing I wouldn't be hindered by my race.
No you didn’t. You did not know they met recruiting goals and you said they didn’t. You’re DANCing our chain!

The President was a non factor and you weren’t black.
 
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No you didn’t. You did not know they met recruiting goals and you said they didn’t. You’re DANCing our chain!

The President was a non factor and you weren’t black.
There are none so blind who will not see.
 
You don’t have evidence. You’re making a dumb Trumpster argument.


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