Watched a podcast from WVU and they are claiming DeVries never talked to anyone but Indiana. They claim this has been weeks in the making. Came from their AD. They are also claiming DeVries didn’t even tell the players he was leaving.
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I heard that on a different podcast, except it was said that Coach K was the lone exception. Coach K didn’t beat RMK’s Army record. Fisher would definitely not qualify, but his is a special case, of course. Don’t know about Drew.
Those same people seem to be wrong as much as the fans are. Not saying your AD was wrong here.
I think they ignored a few cases to make bolster their point. I'm not even certain about Drew, but I think he only coached 1 year at Valpo before Baylor and won 20ish games. Assuming Homer topped that the year of their tourney run, if not more than once.
Just looked it up. Scott Drew did not beat the record his dad established. By the way, I didn’t know Gene Bartow coached at Valpo!
I've wondered myself how Collins would do at IU but I've always wondered why he didn't get a sniff from Dook when K retired. I'm still pleased/encouraged by the route IU took but that's just me. I don't claim to have a finger in the pulse of the fanbase.
You got solid evidence of that? Either way, time will tell on this one and one of these coaches is trending up and the other has flatlined.
Need to tune up your sarcasm detector.
Sorry, need to come out of defense mode I guess 😎
Chris Collins getting considered for Villanova job.. I think most fans would of been happier with Collins then DeVries I know I would of.
Insider John Fanta Gives Update on Chris Collins Villanova Rumors
There has been some buzz around Collins potentially leaving Evanston.www.si.com
No thanks. .375 winning % in BT play.
So your saying what Collins has done at Northwestern isn't remarkable? They never went to the tournament before he came there best season before Collins was 20-14 Collins has won 20 or more 4 times.
Beard I would of been happy. DeVries was a left field hire. Like I said if your going to take a big chance McCollum as higher upside.
Yes, what I'm saying is that what he's done at NW is not remarkable. I liked the hire originally, and thought he might be able to turn NW into a very poor man's Duke, for midwestern recruits. It hasn't happened.
He has taken Northwestern to the tournament 3 times the last 7 years Indiana has went 2 times the last 8 years.
Ben McCollum has won his conference championship the last 12 years in a row! Anyone that cannot see his upside is very very high clearly does not know basketball. Dolson seems intelligent and I have to believe McCollum was offered first but turned IU down. That is speculation only but it seems very logical as anyone who understands the game can see he's a prodigy. Sorry if that offends many of you but I have learned you can't fix stupid.
What supports the speculation that he tuned it down is that he stayed at Northwest Missouri State for 15 years, with results that easily qualified him for D1 jobs. He left that to take the job at Drake. He's clearly very selective about where he wants to work.
We'll never know, but you can't dispute 13 conference titles in 16 years. It would've been more exciting had he been the hire I think. Jmo, but I think he may pass on the Iowa job. To soon for his comfort zone.
Is this remarkable?
Overall Record
194–189 (.507)
Conference Record
86–142 (.377)
Someone will hire him in the next few years and we will see if he is really the second coming or just another mid major bust. I think he will be somewhere in the middle of that probably
I just read btown banners again and if you go by what the so called " insiders" claim they said McCollum told dolson he would think about it. But than again these same people claimed he also had a handshake deal with Stevens as of Sunday night. LOL! They are likely just trolls but it looks like they get alot of people to believe them so they keep trolling.
I don't listen to anybody. I just think Dolson would have picked BMC if he was interested. Jmo.
Yep I agree he probably would have. I think anyone who says they are connected or an insider is nothing but a classic troll.
You’d think someone would have hired him by now!?
I disagree on McCollum having a higher upside. If he does, then he also has a higher downside. And both of those are because he has a very short D1 resume. According to the Indy Star story this morning, SD took high notice of DD after watching him take his Drake team to the wire against Miami in the NCAA tourney. Same Miami that trounced IU. And saw him again when WVU beat Gonzaga and took Louisville to the wire in Atlantis. Both of which pounded IU. SD took particular notice of how hard DD’s teams played. Then it appears that SD targeted DD early on and got his man. Not sure that McCollum even got any interest from SD.
"Played well against teams that trounced Woodson" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.
I hope he works out, but need to see the wins first.
I cannot wait to watch McCullom tonight. After all I have read about the glowing praise of him on message boards I am expecting to be in awe of his coaching.
No one is disputing this, but 11 of those 12 titles were in the MIAA conference. Here's the team's he faced at Northwest Missouri State:
University of Arkansas–Fort Smith
University of Central Missouri
University of Central Oklahoma
Emporia State University
Fort Hays State University
Missouri Southern State University
Missouri Western State University
University of Nebraska at Kearney
Newman University
Northeastern State University
Northwest Missouri State University
Pittsburg State University
Rogers State University
Washburn University
He adds one impressive year in the MVC at Drake, I'll give you that but neither of these stints include any work at the Division 1 level. This is exactly why DeVries was chosen over Ben McCollum. Could he do it? Who knows. But, no AD with sanity would take that big of a risk, given the last two debacles we've had to endure. This one had to be more sure and DeVries has two or three key elements that put him in a different category.
- Creighton Assistant Coach
Under Dana Altman from 2001-2010 (9 years)
Under Greg McDermott 2010-2018 (8 years)
- Drake Head Coach
DeVries became a head coach for the first time when he accepted the job at former conference rival Drake in March 2018.[3]
DeVries' helped the Bulldogs program start the season with 9–2 record, the program's best open to a season since 2007–08. The Bulldogs win over Valparaiso Feb. 16 was the team's 20th win of the season to mark the sixth 20-win season in program history. This accomplishment came after inheriting the second-fewest returning letter winners in the nation.
Following that start, starting point guard and potential MVC Larry Bird Player of the Year candidate Nick Norton suffered a season-ending knee injury in the first game of the MVC season. DeVries' team proceeded to win four of its next five games to move into a tie for third place in the league standings. At the close of the 2018–19 season, he was named MVC Coach of the Year.[4]
In his next season, DeVries made history as the first coach to lead an 8-seed to a win over the 1-seed in the Missouri Valley Conference Tournament ("Arch Madness"), defeating UNI 77–56.[5]
DeVries' success at Drake continued in the 2020–21 season where he took the team to a 18–0 start which included the Bulldogs' inclusion in the AP Top 25 poll. After losing two of their top players to injury, DeVries' led Drake to their first at-large NCAA Tournament bid in years, and their first NCAA tournament win in 50 years to the day with a win over former Valley foe Wichita State. DeVries was also named MVC Coach of the Year for the second time in three years. In March 2021, DeVries signed an 8-year contract extension with Drake, keeping him in Des Moines through the 2028–29 season.[6]
West Virginia Head Coach
- with an entirely new roster, except for one player, improved their record from 9 wins to 19, against a #30 Strength of Schedule.
- Beat #3 Gonzaga, #24 Arizona, #7 Kansas (at Kansas), #2 Iowa State.
Bottom line: Division 1 experience
- Darian DeVries 18 years
- Ben McCollum 0 years
I am still expecting to see the second coming tonight after the rave reviews on him for D2 titles. He has been talked up like crazy on message boards. If McCullom losses tonight I will be stunned I am fully expecting to see a coaching savant.
We can all agree what McCollum has did to this point is more impressive then DeVries. If he gets to a sweet sixteen he will do something DeVries hasn't in his first season and only 43.
Well said. CDD over McCollum is a pretty easy choice. The D1 experience is critical. McCollum is a much greater risk. Will be interesting to see who wants to take the risk on McCollum after only 1 year in D1.
‘Supporting the speculation’ would indicate that it lends credibility to and your point doesn’t do that. It is just is another reason you are speculating speculate.
That is what I have heard but the way he is talked up he better live up to the expectations.
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