Mar-a-Lago is Under Siege
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The FBI can't win on this. When we didn't have enough info, they were hiding. When we get more info, they are leaking irresponsibly. Rock and a hard place.
I prefer we all just wait to see what happens.
Coming from someone with zero credibility ,that's rich. But go ahead and point out what I said that isn't true except the fact that he was a Trump appointee?
So Trump didn't appoint him directly since magistrate judges are voted on by sitting judges. I conceded the point, because I was wrong...
However the reality is that for the past 22 yrs going back to Jeb Bush, Governors of FL have exclusively been GOP.
Now genius, do you know what that means, and what it says about the likelihood of any of the judges who voted to appoint Reinhardt as magistrate having any possibility of being appointed by a Democrat?
You know none of that because for some reason you love to attack me, even if you are not aware of the actual facts you claim to be arguing. You contribute nothing to this board except to launch attacks on me (like you did here) based on no knowledge and seemingly very little intelligence. You're basically a troll and it must give you massive jollies, but I really don't understand why.
He was a Jan 6 rally attendee. Is suicide by cop a common theme for those folks? And although he only fired the nail gun, he was also armed with an AR-15 when he entered the building. Which we knew was likely just when we put the various phrases "Jan 6" "deranged" "FBI" together during the process of building a description of him...
Seriously goat? Garland was on tv literally hours ago railing against those who say his agency is being politicized.
And now this convenient “leak” happens.
The fbi can win by not leaking information involving an ongoing case which they insisted was necessary because of the importance of protecting classified information.
He was on TV because people spent all week demanding he publicly explain himself.
And, to be fair, I'm not saying he did the DOJ any favors with his performance. I'm just pointing out that he was kind of backed into it.
You're pretty dismissive of Ricky Shiffer's actions, which included posting on Trump twitter (Truth Social) in the aftermath of his attack on the FBI...
“Well, I thought I had a way through bullet proof glass, and I didn’t. If you don’t hear from me, it is true I tried attacking the F.B.I., and it’ll mean either I was taken off the internet, the F.B.I. got me, or they sent the regular cops while,” the account @RickyWShifferJr wrote at 9:29 a.m. ET, shortly after police allege the shooting occurred.
Shiffer posted to Truth Social multiple times in the days after the FBI searched Trump’s residence in Palm Beach, Florida, about wanting to engage in violence. One post called for people to arm themselves and be ready for “combat.”
“We must not tolerate this one,” he wrote.
Shiffer's Truth Social account, which was seen by NBC News on Thursday evening, has since become unavailable.
After another user responded that his photo and information had been forwarded to the FBI, Shiffer’s account responded: “Bring them on.”
More from his TS posting history.
"On May 7, Shiffer’s account replied to a post by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Green, R-Ga., on Twitter, in which she wrote, “I know they are trying 1984, but I’m feeling 2016 vibes.”
“Congresswoman Greene, they got away with fixing elections in plain sight,” Shiffer’s account wrote. “It’s over. The next step is the one we used in 1775.”
Man who fired nail gun at FBI building called for violence on Truth Social in days after Mar-a-Lago search
A man identified by two law enforcement sources as Ricky Shiffer also appeared to post Thursday about his failed effort to get into the FBI building.
www.nbcnews.com
This guy was clearly a nutjob, but there is a direct line from the people who espouse the stolen election conspiracy nonsense - including many on this forum - and this guy. Enough people claim there is evidence of fraud when there really isn't, and eventually someone tries to shoot up the FBI.You're pretty dismissive of Ricky Shiffer's actions, which included posting on Trump twitter (Truth Social) in the aftermath of his attack on the FBI...
“Well, I thought I had a way through bullet proof glass, and I didn’t. If you don’t hear from me, it is true I tried attacking the F.B.I., and it’ll mean either I was taken off the internet, the F.B.I. got me, or they sent the regular cops while,” the account @RickyWShifferJr wrote at 9:29 a.m. ET, shortly after police allege the shooting occurred.
Shiffer posted to Truth Social multiple times in the days after the FBI searched Trump’s residence in Palm Beach, Florida, about wanting to engage in violence. One post called for people to arm themselves and be ready for “combat.”
“We must not tolerate this one,” he wrote.
Shiffer's Truth Social account, which was seen by NBC News on Thursday evening, has since become unavailable.
After another user responded that his photo and information had been forwarded to the FBI, Shiffer’s account responded: “Bring them on.”
More from his TS posting history.
"On May 7, Shiffer’s account replied to a post by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Green, R-Ga., on Twitter, in which she wrote, “I know they are trying 1984, but I’m feeling 2016 vibes.”
“Congresswoman Greene, they got away with fixing elections in plain sight,” Shiffer’s account wrote. “It’s over. The next step is the one we used in 1775.”
Man who fired nail gun at FBI building called for violence on Truth Social in days after Mar-a-Lago search
A man identified by two law enforcement sources as Ricky Shiffer also appeared to post Thursday about his failed effort to get into the FBI building.
Everyone here who posted "What about the X votes that came in at 2 AM?" or "What about the change in mail-in procedures?" or "What about D'Souza's movie?" All of you are, in a roundabout way, responsible for this man's death.
Dude... He was suicidal idiot...You're pretty dismissive of Ricky Shiffer's actions, which included posting on Trump twitter (Truth Social) in the aftermath of his attack on the FBI...
“Well, I thought I had a way through bullet proof glass, and I didn’t. If you don’t hear from me, it is true I tried attacking the F.B.I., and it’ll mean either I was taken off the internet, the F.B.I. got me, or they sent the regular cops while,” the account @RickyWShifferJr wrote at 9:29 a.m. ET, shortly after police allege the shooting occurred.
Shiffer posted to Truth Social multiple times in the days after the FBI searched Trump’s residence in Palm Beach, Florida, about wanting to engage in violence. One post called for people to arm themselves and be ready for “combat.”
“We must not tolerate this one,” he wrote.
Shiffer's Truth Social account, which was seen by NBC News on Thursday evening, has since become unavailable.
After another user responded that his photo and information had been forwarded to the FBI, Shiffer’s account responded: “Bring them on.”
More from his TS posting history.
"On May 7, Shiffer’s account replied to a post by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Green, R-Ga., on Twitter, in which she wrote, “I know they are trying 1984, but I’m feeling 2016 vibes.”
“Congresswoman Greene, they got away with fixing elections in plain sight,” Shiffer’s account wrote. “It’s over. The next step is the one we used in 1775.”
Man who fired nail gun at FBI building called for violence on Truth Social in days after Mar-a-Lago search
A man identified by two law enforcement sources as Ricky Shiffer also appeared to post Thursday about his failed effort to get into the FBI building.
Your desire to make him the face of your deepest fears doesn't make much headway with me (or any other Sane person)...
To me the statement '' laughing in his face'' is when two leaders meet and shake hands and sit down implies the other leader literally laughs in his face standing face to face. So you be you
After the DOJ filed a motion to do just that? That's not a thickening plot. That's just Trump positioning himself yet again for his gullible fans.
You’ve had a lot of bad takes here, but in all seriousness, this is likely the worst.
Trump could have released the warrant documents himself the day they were served. Talk about some beautiful obfuscation.
If I’m not mistaken, didn’t Trump have the option to object to their release?
So you’re CERTAIN there was no rule or order in place preventing release and requiring motions?
Or are we still guessing and destroying the national fabric for sport?
Do you believe in Russian pee videos too?
Careful. That Thoughtcrime is insidious. It just sneaks up on you.
What’s worse, shot by a nail gun or nailed by a shotgun?
I suppose but it still doesn't mean anything. He's trying to imply DOJ doesn't want them public.
Was there a protective order in the file? Any rule of ethics Prohibiting public statements?
There were foia requests from the moment this became known so this was probably gonna come out regardless of what either party did.
I am no FOIA expert, but I doubt it applies to sealed search warrants and supporting affidavits.
Trump’s followers are the smartest people on planet earth. They know he could’ve released them. They knows he’s pretending that they don’t know that. They’re all good with it whatever he does. He’s the second cumming.
So a target of a warrant cannot publicly release a sealed warrant? That would seem... very odd. Garland even said something along the lines of "that is his right" when referring to Trump publicly announcing the execution of the warrant.
The WSJ and others have reported that they have been requesting the warrant, etc.... but Trump's lawyers have refused to release it to them.
You're telling me the court can both order a search warrant and at the same time instruct the target that they cannot publicy release it?
I kind of doubt there is going to be any kind of bombshell information in it, but whatever.
The irony of "Lock Her Up" is too amazing to believe. If this reporting related to SAP level classified docs is accurate.... this is basically the identical thing that triggered all the Hillary controversy.... and led to a new law greatly increasing the criminal liability for an offender.... signed by the guy it's now targeting.
It depends, but Correct. Courts order confidentiality all the time. Enter “protective” orders. Enter “no contact” orders. All kinds of things. For all kinds of reasons. Routine. They order lots of things that politicized dupes don’t know about or understand.
There is one known fact here - the FBI conducted a search pursuant to a warrant. That’s it. Everything else is speculation.
Show me the affidavit of probable cause and the warrant. Nothing else matters. It’s all BS.
Politico:
“Trump is in perhaps the best position to reveal more details about what transpired on Monday. The former president has access to the full inventory of items that federal investigators were seeking as well as what was taken from his estate during the search. He or his lawyers were almost certainly presented with a copy of the search warrant executed at Mar-a-Lago — though not the underlying affidavit or other supplemental materials, which are usually kept confidential until charges are issued or a case is closed. In addition, Trump can speak to the nature of any potentially classified material that may have been the basis for the search and whether he took steps to declassify any of it as he left office.
“If people are calling for it to be made public, I believe that is within the power of Mr. Trump to do,” Aftergood said. “He could describe what was at stake and what the point of disagreement was. He doesn’t need to speculate.””
Yeah, look at the “real men” on here who respond to her with nothing but verbal attacks. They are obviously not used to being talked back to (or talked to at all, for that matter) by women.
Metaphorically speaking, my impression is that these guys use the water cooler as their substitute outhouse whereas Zeke practices proper civil hygiene.
I don't think there is any expectation that the sworn affidavit will ever be public....
Which means Garland is a political whore playing political games
