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Man, Herbstreit is really risking what has been the foundation of his career right now

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I know that sounds dramatic. And maybe I'm overblowing how much negative press he's gotten from his comments on Indiana and SMU. But man, it sure seems like he's taking more than a little flack for his ridiculous take that IU, and SMU to a lesser extent, didn't belong in the CFP.

And now, rather than issuing some sort of mild back tracking platitude...to show that he has a semblance of objectivity in him...he's trying to mansplain to everyone how everyone misunderstood what he meant...without actually correcting anything that he said.

Herbstreit's entire persona, his popularity, is rooted in how above the fray he's always been, how unbiased, how thoughtful and practical his takes always are. Even the whole golden retriever thing plays in to the wholesome, golden boy, loves everyone approach. Heck, even his "I can't make a prediction, I'm calling the game."...has further solidified his objectivity.

He's literally losing all that, and becoming a shock jock, like everyone else. I'm sure he has "people". Maybe this is a purposeful approach. Maybe he's gonna break off and try to be a Pat MacAfee with pod casts and all that? But his initial take was awful. Pretty much everyone now realizes it was awful. And all he needed to do, was use some self deprecating approach to issue some sort of mild mea culpa. It actually would have perfectly fit who he is. It probably would have made him even more popular. He could have even held on to some of the notions...but tied them in with the self deprecation, and then showing he actually is objective.

Whatever he's doing or thinking, it isn't impressive.
 
I know that sounds dramatic. And maybe I'm overblowing how much negative press he's gotten from his comments on Indiana and SMU. But man, it sure seems like he's taking more than a little flack for his ridiculous take that IU, and SMU to a lesser extent, didn't belong in the CFP.

And now, rather than issuing some sort of mild back tracking platitude...to show that he has a semblance of objectivity in him...he's trying to mansplain to everyone how everyone misunderstood what he meant...without actually correcting anything that he said.

Herbstreit's entire persona, his popularity, is rooted in how above the fray he's always been, how unbiased, how thoughtful and practical his takes always are. Even the whole golden retriever thing plays in to the wholesome, golden boy, loves everyone approach. Heck, even his "I can't make a prediction, I'm calling the game."...has further solidified his objectivity.

He's literally losing all that, and becoming a shock jock, like everyone else. I'm sure he has "people". Maybe this is a purposeful approach. Maybe he's gonna break off and try to be a Pat MacAfee with pod casts and all that? But his initial take was awful. Pretty much everyone now realizes it was awful. And all he needed to do, was use some self deprecating approach to issue some sort of mild mea culpa. It actually would have perfectly fit who he is. It probably would have made him even more popular. He could have even held on to some of the notions...but tied them in with the self deprecation, and then showing he actually is objective.

Whatever he's doing or thinking, it isn't impressive.


ESPN is all about the SEC now......and he seems to have bought into that completely. I've always liked the guy, but f*** him now....
 
I know that sounds dramatic. And maybe I'm overblowing how much negative press he's gotten from his comments on Indiana and SMU. But man, it sure seems like he's taking more than a little flack for his ridiculous take that IU, and SMU to a lesser extent, didn't belong in the CFP.

And now, rather than issuing some sort of mild back tracking platitude...to show that he has a semblance of objectivity in him...he's trying to mansplain to everyone how everyone misunderstood what he meant...without actually correcting anything that he said.

Herbstreit's entire persona, his popularity, is rooted in how above the fray he's always been, how unbiased, how thoughtful and practical his takes always are. Even the whole golden retriever thing plays in to the wholesome, golden boy, loves everyone approach. Heck, even his "I can't make a prediction, I'm calling the game."...has further solidified his objectivity.

He's literally losing all that, and becoming a shock jock, like everyone else. I'm sure he has "people". Maybe this is a purposeful approach. Maybe he's gonna break off and try to be a Pat MacAfee with pod casts and all that? But his initial take was awful. Pretty much everyone now realizes it was awful. And all he needed to do, was use some self deprecating approach to issue some sort of mild mea culpa. It actually would have perfectly fit who he is. It probably would have made him even more popular. He could have even held on to some of the notions...but tied them in with the self deprecation, and then showing he actually is objective.

Whatever he's doing or thinking, it isn't impressive.
He's bending over backwards in an effort to shed his "ESPN/SEC homer" label but, in the process, he keeps stepping on his own dick. Today he disparaged Clemson and other "small southern schools."

I honestly don't know how he can continue on Game Day. He's going to be heckled every Saturday morning he's anywhere other than on the campus of an SEC school. Then again, he's got his $10 million/yr contract with Amazon now. Maybe he no longer gives a shit about Game Day. He reportedly almost quit when McAfee and Saban joined the show. If he leaves Game Day, it's good-bye and good riddance as far as I'm concerned.
 
He's bending over backwards in an effort to shed his "ESPN/SEC homer" label but, in the process, he keeps stepping on his own dick. Today he disparaged Clemson and other "small southern schools."

I honestly don't know how he can continue on Game Day. He's going to be heckled every Saturday morning he's anywhere other than on the campus of an SEC school. Then again, he's got his $10 million/yr contract with Amazon now. Maybe he no longer gives a shit about Game Day. He reportedly almost quit when McAfee and Saban joined the show. If he leaves Game Day, it's good-bye and good riddance as far as I'm concerned.
He’s got quite the ego and he wants to preach. When he abandoned neutrality and celebrating CFB, he entered the arena of CFB debate and opinion, which made him the enemy of a lot of fanbases. He can try to hide behind his dog, but it probably won’t work.
 
He said Indiana didn’t belong in the cfp and many people took that to mean he thinks Alabama should have been there because they were the 1st team out. His only correction was to say that he didn’t believe AL was that team, but has never clarified who he thinks “deserves” to be in over IU. I use that word purposely because he tried to distinguish between best and “most deserving” which I believe are one in the same. There is no team left out of the cfp that I believe was better than IU. South Carolina and Ole Miss were “capable” of beating IU on a neutral or their home field, but I don’t think they were better. People just need to realize the committee got it right and at the end of the day the two best teams will play for the nc with no argument that anyone left out would have beat them. I think everyone agrees that changes such as seeding and automatic bids need work, but I think their selection criteria was spot on and as fair as possible. If Kirk doesn’t believe so he needs to provide concrete examples of why he thinks there were better options.
 
I know that sounds dramatic. And maybe I'm overblowing how much negative press he's gotten from his comments on Indiana and SMU. But man, it sure seems like he's taking more than a little flack for his ridiculous take that IU, and SMU to a lesser extent, didn't belong in the CFP.

And now, rather than issuing some sort of mild back tracking platitude...to show that he has a semblance of objectivity in him...he's trying to mansplain to everyone how everyone misunderstood what he meant...without actually correcting anything that he said.

Herbstreit's entire persona, his popularity, is rooted in how above the fray he's always been, how unbiased, how thoughtful and practical his takes always are. Even the whole golden retriever thing plays in to the wholesome, golden boy, loves everyone approach. Heck, even his "I can't make a prediction, I'm calling the game."...has further solidified his objectivity.

He's literally losing all that, and becoming a shock jock, like everyone else. I'm sure he has "people". Maybe this is a purposeful approach. Maybe he's gonna break off and try to be a Pat MacAfee with pod casts and all that? But his initial take was awful. Pretty much everyone now realizes it was awful. And all he needed to do, was use some self deprecating approach to issue some sort of mild mea culpa. It actually would have perfectly fit who he is. It probably would have made him even more popular. He could have even held on to some of the notions...but tied them in with the self deprecation, and then showing he actually is objective.

Whatever he's doing or thinking, it isn't impressive.
I just wish he’d stop taking his god damn dogs on airplanes for 100s of hours a year.
 
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Even in the 4-team playoff format, there was blowout after blowout after blowout. Yet, because it was the likes of OU, ND, Washington, FSU et al, being the teams getting blasted, teams with some pedigree behind them, these chumps never said
“(fill in blown out team) didn’t belong in that semifinal.” Only happens this year when some “party crashers” like IU or SMU make it. 11-1 in a P4 deserves to be in. As did SMU. Not IU’s fault that both Washington and UM didn’t live up their end of the bargain.
 
In his recent rant he said if he's being a shill for ESPN because he wants higher ratings, then he couldn't ask for a better final 4 teams. Ranted about OSU, ND and Texas....never mentioned PSU and said UM is the only other one he would want in. Went on and on about this final four is going to have massive ratings so why would he not want this?

The issue here, KIRK, is that wasn't the problem. Where the hell did OSU, ND or Michigan (for gods sake), come into play???? The criticism was that he implied IU as well as SMU and others shouldn't have been invited. Thus implying the SEC teams should've been in their place. This would naturally give the SEC a better shot at winning the title due to having more teams involved. That is the crux of the issue...not that he was rooting against his alma mater, his sons soon-to-be school or ND. He's just out here gaslighting people now.
 
Did Ole Miss, Alabama, So Carolina, LSU or Miami lose to anyone they shouldn't have lost to? Yes.

Did IU? No.

EOD
He wants to pretend "deserving" and "better" are always different categories. The better teams deserved to be in and were invited. There truly is nothing else to say about it yet Kirk pretends his pride is on the line. It's weird.
 
So basically he is saying that Indiana was more deserving but he thinks on a neutral field 2024 Alabama would beat 2024 Indiana. I still say each season needs to stand on its own. We give too much weight to historical success and to having more 4 & 5 star recruits. The fact of the matter is that Alabama's 2024 season did not in reality support Kirby's conclusion. Did Bama have a higher ceiling than Indiana? Yeah, probably. But if we start letting past success and hypothetical potential overwrite the actual play on the field then we are saying we already know who is the best and the games don't really matter. Herbstreit understands this perfectly well but still he does his little dance for the Pied Piper in Bristol.
 
He wants to pretend "deserving" and "better" are always different categories. The better teams deserved to be in and were invited. There truly is nothing else to say about it yet Kirk pretends his pride is on the line. It's weird.



Kirk = fanboy. To him "better' in football is the equivalent of the basketball geeks who only see how a guy can dunk. Team performance means nothing; it's all about physicality
 
Ya know, I doubt it was intentional but, if it was Feinstein's wish to squash the rise of Herbstreit, this seems like a perfect execution.
PS was leading the charge but Herbstreit followed a hard second. Both heavily in the bag for the SEC, or at minimum, against any of the new money teams being in the FBS.
Both were heavily quilling about it.

Then the chaos of our maiden playoffs series and things turn sour for all the barking dogs of the sports-stream-media. Then boom, Feinstein waves the white flag, literally. While not really retracting he does yield his position and acknowledges he knows nothing and isn't worth the click.

That leaves o'Herbie with a choice: do the same a PS and show yourself as a mindless pasty follower, sycophant to PS? Or stick to your guns, continue to piss on multiple programs and the committee and die in the trenches you dug?

I haven't looked in a couple of days but last viewing, 'erb seemed to be trying to maintain a weak fight. His attempt to hold his position by offering only defensive commentary, bleh.

It's not going well, but best of luck to him. Maybe Dackich can save him.
 
ESPN is like MSNBC/FoxNews for me. I wish all BTN folks would just turn them off and send a message. They don't act like they give two shits about anyone else and spend very little time on things outside their SEC footprint at the college level in my opinion. ESPN/SEC bias is too much for me. Go Hoosiers!

Here, I fixed it for you.
 
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