MacAfee just talked for a bit about Cig and IU...

[ptrich]

As lucky as Indiana is to have Coach Cignetti, he's not a home run hire for Florida. He's not even a double. Lane Kiffin or Dan Lanning are home run hires and candidates they will almost assuredly throw the farm at. From there, they'd be looking at guys like Eli Drinkwitz, James Franklin, or Jedd Fisch. Florida needs a coach who can recruit toe to toe with the likes of Georgia and Alabama. Way too many high end FL prospects going anywhere but Gainesville.

I probably shouldn't have used the word homerun when talking about CCC, but he is a guy that can turn things around quickly as we have witnessed and that is what the Gators would desperately want. When I included Florida in my post it was only to say that they were likely to be the first major program to dump a coach this season. I didn't necessary mean that they would be in the hunt for CCC, but my post kind of morphed into they would be interested in CCC.

While many thought Florida's hire of Billy Napier was a great hire, he hardly fell into the category of a homerun hire, so Florida does go for coaches like that. But who knows what they are thinking right now, and they haven't dumped Napier yet. Lose on the road to Mississippi State this Saturday, and the Gator hierarchy may not even wait for Sunday to fire Napier. Mississippi State just got steamrolled by Toledo at home, 41-17.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

The hype is building. I guess no matter what happens, I love it. But the more guys like MacAfee "glaze" him, to use lingo from my teenagers...The more likely him getting plucked sooner rather than later.

Also...if you watch the clip...look at AJ Hawk's smug typical Ohio State smirk. God I'd love for nothing more than IU to go in and ruin their season later in the year. Like quite a lot more than winning the bucket even.

I believe McAfee was the guy who was pissed off Wilson on the Dakich show

Nice to know he is focusing on the present instead of our record from 1901 … like too many other media.

 

[Al Bino]

Surrrrrreee. He said that at JMU also.

Link?

 

[ulrey]

Surrrrrreee. He said that at JMU also.

Link?

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Link?

Your insufferable….

‘I really wasn’t looking to leave JMU. I mean I loved it there. I figured I’d retire there’: Curt Cignetti details his decision to leave James Madison for Indiana football

Curt Cignetti detailed his decision to leave James Madison to join Indiana football during his appearance on Next Up with Adam Breneman.

hoosierillustrated.com

 

[OpenWheels]

Your insufferable….

‘I really wasn’t looking to leave JMU. I mean I loved it there. I figured I’d retire there’: Curt Cignetti details his decision to leave James Madison for Indiana football

Curt Cignetti detailed his decision to leave James Madison to join Indiana football during his appearance on Next Up with Adam Breneman.

hoosierillustrated.com

So, your link doesn't say what you claimed it said.

It doesn't show him saying while at JMU that he wasn't leaving or it was his last job.

It shows him after leaving that he hadn't expected to. Completely different.
,

 

[ElMeson]

Well, then PSU would need a coach, right? VBG/DWS/😉

But seriously…🤷‍♂️

Matt Rhule

 

[indy1203]

All this is assuming he keeps winning... so there's that.

But winning at IU, in the B10...quite obviously ups the ante. And the only reason he had Cig on his show last year is because Gameday went to JMU. After they lost that game, not sure he mentioned him after that.

This was something MacAfee made a point of bringing up, mid week, after week 3.

You're not a "big idea" guy, I get it. But if he wins "big" this year at IU, he'll have big schools coming after him. And there's really no reason for any of us to assume he'd stay at IU, when any number of better football schools could offer him similar opportunities, with better tradition, more resources, more loyal fans, etc...

And if he becomes a focus of MacAfee Show's constant admiration and attention, that'll only make him more marketable to bigger schools.

I said if he wins at UCLA, watch for national media to start pumping him up. MacAfee is a sign that will start happening.

I hope Dolson takes the impending threat much more seriously than you are.

Lets find out what Cig's wife thinks.

 

[RegionHoosiers]

If he wins here consistently, and fans starting showing up and staying in the stadium - I'd guess it will come down to whether IU will/can pony up enough to keep his assistants happy. They all came with him so they might prefer sticking together as long as they aren't turning down too much.

 

[abraxis]

Good coaches hire good assistants.

It’s because good assistants want hired by good head coaches. It’s win/win reciprocated. Good assistant coaches do Google searches to see who wins. Curt Cignetti is found there. Google it!

 

[IUgradman]

If he wins here consistently, and fans starting showing up and staying in the stadium - I'd guess it will come down to whether IU will/can pony up enough to keep his assistants happy. They all came with him so they might prefer sticking together as long as they aren't turning down too much.

The DC is making over $1 million/year and if certain achievements are met, Cig gets an additional $500k to distribute among his assistants.

 

[iubud]

I think it’s a fair point there is risk he could leave if he does very well. I don’t think Pat is a factor here.

Interested ADs will be watching the games and talking to sources that know what’s going on inside IUFB. They’ll want to know about his staff, how and where he recruits, what resources he gets at IU, what people think about him, if he would leave, and how he would fit in at XYZ school.

ESPN pays Pat because he generates ratings, probably in the lucrative younger demo. He’s an entertainer, not an analyst or exec who is paid to assess personnel and make good hires.

Coach Cig has said this is his destination job and I believe him. If he builds a consistent winning program, why would he leave? Plus at his age, does he want to move again? There is a coaching succession built into his staff. We could lose staff, but I have confidence Coach Cig would make a good hire.

 

[Tammany Hall]

Coach Cig has said this is his destination job and I believe him. If he builds a consistent winning program, why would he leave? Plus at his age, does he want to move again? There is a coaching succession built into his staff. We could lose staff, but I have confidence Coach Cig would make a good hire.

I don't think it's likely he leaves. But if a big football school comes calling, I can't deny the appeal. A big football school can pay him 2x what he makes here, give him 3x the NIL plus a big budget/brand to recruit with, and provide the whole experience of a packed 80K+ stadium and deep football culture. Same reason a good basketball coach at a smaller program would probably take the Indiana job.

But again, personally I don't worry about this. We're three games in!

 

[IUgradman]

I don't think it's likely he leaves. But if a big football school comes calling, I can't deny the appeal. A big football school can pay him 2x what he makes here, give him 3x the NIL plus a big budget/brand to recruit with, and provide the whole experience of a packed 80K+ stadium and deep football culture. Same reason a good basketball coach at a smaller program would probably take the Indiana job.

But again, personally I don't worry about this. We're three games in!

IU will have the resources to up its commitment to the football program if needed.

 

[iubud]

I don't think it's likely he leaves. But if a big football school comes calling, I can't deny the appeal. A big football school can pay him 2x what he makes here, give him 3x the NIL plus a big budget/brand to recruit with, and provide the whole experience of a packed 80K+ stadium and deep football culture. Same reason a good basketball coach at a smaller program would probably take the Indiana job.

But again, personally I don't worry about this. We're three games in!

I believe the appeal of Indiana to Coach Cig is building a perennial winner at a place that has never had long term success. I'm not sure he would get the satisfaction of taking over a program that already has the winning culture and support.

I expect Shanahan will get offers. I would hate to lose him, but what if he went to a mid major and was experienced and successful when Cig was ready to retire? I just hope purdue doesn't get wise and offer him the job.

 

[IUgradman]

We have to prepare for the assistants leaving should IU be successful the next couple of years.

 

[VanPastorMan]

If he becomes a regular guy that MacAfee talks about, that will have quite a lot more impact than you're giving it credit for. There's a reason ESPN pays him as much as they do, and look the other way on some of the fringy things he says.

AD's follow all the same stuff everyone does, I'm sure. Obviously they have many other deciding factors, but MacAfee is pretty heavily followed in the football world.

I love Coach Tom Allen personally. He is one good dude. This kind of talk about him leaving after we won with him was the reason why we gave him a huge contract with a buyout that was humongous. I say if Cig wins the National Championship then we give him one.

 

[TomEric4756]

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/...for-coach-curt-cignetti-contract-01j9fn96d2wj

Bonus payments are starting to accrue. Like the 1/2 million pool for assistants, which is apart from CCC’s personal haul. CCC bet on himself with his contract terms.

 

[achoosier]

Back up the $$$ truck. Hear his ideas, give him power (and max NIL and coaching staff support). He may stay. All you can do.

 

[aajohn2000]

The hype is building. I guess no matter what happens, I love it. But the more guys like MacAfee "glaze" him, to use lingo from my teenagers...The more likely him getting plucked sooner rather than later.

Also...if you watch the clip...look at AJ Hawk's smug typical Ohio State smirk. God I'd love for nothing more than IU to go in and ruin their season later in the year. Like quite a lot more than winning the bucket even.

The smartest thing we could do is give him a contract for 10 years. I am not familiar with current terms, but we need to beef it up AND lock in the term. Let him do something at Indiana that is special and provide a great legacy. He is in a big league and has an opportunity to do something that has never been done. We are an underdog and have been a perennial doormat of the conference. That aligns well with what drives him. Particularly when you look at his background in coaching and schools.

 

[Tammany Hall]

We do want an longer contract, but the key his making sure he wants to stay, so of course that’s a good contract, but it’s all the support stuff: staff $, NIL increasing, being ready for the rev share (IU has to make the whole FB team employees), facility improvements, and fan support.

I’ve got no insight into the athletic dept, but I bet Scott is doing his best with this. We also need Pam and the BoT to help Scott get what he needs. It has to be full institutional support — that’s what the big FB schools have and that is our competition.

 

[Harry Hondo]

There is an extension for each bowl game … https://www.si.com/college/indiana/...for-coach-curt-cignetti-contract-01j9fn96d2wj

Each bowl appearance triggers a one-year extension to Cignetti’s contract, as well as a $250,000 increase to the remaining outside, marketing and promotional income payments. There will also be a $500,000 increase to the budget for football staff personnel – for example, on-field assistants, strength and conditioning and support personnel – allocated at Cignetti’s discretion and subject to approval of athletic director Scott Dolson, according to the memorandum of understanding obtained by Hoosiers on SI through public records requests.

Depending on the next six games, there is potential for an annual bonus of $200,000 if Indiana makes a non-College Football Playoff bowl game and an additional $50,000 bonus if it wins the bowl game. If Indiana reaches the College Football Playoff, Cignetti will receive a $500,000 bonus for a first-round appearance, and the bonus would increase if the Hoosiers won additional rounds to up to $2,000,000 for a national championship victory.

$2M bonus for winning the national title. That’s insane.

 

[TomEric4756]

The smartest thing we could do is give him a contract for 10 years. I am not familiar with current terms, but we need to beef it up AND lock in the term. Let him do something at Indiana that is special and provide a great legacy. He is in a big league and has an opportunity to do something that has never been done. We are an underdog and have been a perennial doormat of the conference. That aligns well with what drives him. Particularly when you look at his background in coaching and schools.

There is an extension for each bowl game …

Each bowl appearance triggers a one-year extension to Cignetti’s contract, as well as a $250,000 increase to the remaining outside, marketing and promotional income payments. There will also be a $500,000 increase to the budget for football staff personnel – for example, on-field assistants, strength and conditioning and support personnel – allocated at Cignetti’s discretion and subject to approval of athletic director Scott Dolson, according to the memorandum of understanding obtained by Hoosiers on SI through public records requests.

Depending on the next six games, there is potential for an annual bonus of $200,000 if Indiana makes a non-College Football Playoff bowl game and an additional $50,000 bonus if it wins the bowl game. If Indiana reaches the College Football Playoff, Cignetti will receive a $500,000 bonus for a first-round appearance, and the bonus would increase if the Hoosiers won additional rounds to up to $2,000,000 for a national championship victory.

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/new-indiana-football-staff-curt-cignetti-contract-details

Regarding Indiana’s Big Ten schedule, Cignetti would receive a $100,000 bonus for Indiana’s fifth Big Ten win and $150,000 for the sixth. Those bonuses are not cumulative, and the highest win total will apply. A top-six conference finish in the new 18-team Big Ten means a $250,000 bonus for Cignetti. He’d receive a $500,000 bonus for a second-place finish and $1,000,000 for a Big Ten championship. Like the win-total bonus, the conference finish bonus is not cumulative.

If Indiana reaches a bowl game that is not part of the College Football Playoff, Cignetti would receive an annual bonus of $200,000, plus an additional $50,000 if Indiana wins. Should Indiana make it all the way to the College Football Playoff, which will follow a new 12-team format in 2024, a first-round appearance triggers a $500,000 bonus. Cignetti would earn a $600,000 bonus for a quarterfinal appearance; a $700,000 bonus for a semifinal appearance; $1,000,000 if Indiana is the national runner-up; and $2,000,000 for winning the national championship. Again, these CFP-related bonuses are not cumulative.

 

[TomEric4756]

$2M bonus for winning the national title. That’s insane.

Seems fair enough to me … even if the odds are better than getting struck by lightning

 

[Tammany Hall]

$2M bonus for winning the national title. That’s insane.

He wins it all I would gift him part of campus.

 

[Hoosier Clarion]

The smartest thing we could do is give him a contract for 10 years. I am not familiar with current terms, but we need to beef it up AND lock in the term. Let him do something at Indiana that is special and provide a great legacy. He is in a big league and has an opportunity to do something that has never been done. We are an underdog and have been a perennial doormat of the conference. That aligns well with what drives him. Particularly when you look at his background in coaching and schools.

...and the chip on his shoulder...

 

[Tammany Hall]

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/...for-coach-curt-cignetti-contract-01j9fn96d2wj

Bonus payments are starting to accrue. Like the 1/2 million pool for assistants, which is apart from CCC’s personal haul. CCC bet on himself with his contract terms.

I’m curious how much NIL and donations increase for football. Hard to know to what extent certain rich boosters get excited by what’s going on.

 

[aajohn2000]

We will know we're a good football program once winning a few games in the weak part of the schedule doesn't lead to mass hysteria that the coach will leave soon. And yes I think we'll win plenty of games in the strong part of the schedule too, but come on, how can that be a worry. Good problem for later.

In all our seasons, I am not sure we have seen a more favorable B1G schedule. This is to not take anything aaay from Cig. But no Penn state. No Ohio State. No iowa. No wisconsin. Michigan likely will be unranked when we face them. We have an extremely favorable schedule. We are winning convincingly and can only play whoever is on the schedule. It has to be the weakest in the conference.

 

[jughaid]

In all our seasons, I am not sure we have seen a more favorable B1G schedule. This is to not take anything aaay from Cig. But no Penn state. No Ohio State. No iowa. No wisconsin. Michigan likely will be unranked when we face them. We have an extremely favorable schedule. We are winning convincingly and can only play whoever is on the schedule. It has to be the weakest in the conference.

Ohio State, Nov. 23

 

[Tammany Hall]

Also have to factor in the conference isn’t great this year. We play the two teams in last year’s national title game and they just happen to be down a lot this year.

After the top 2 or 3 teams, it falls off quite a bit.

 

[OpenWheels]

Also have to factor in the conference isn’t great this year. We play the two teams in last year’s national title game and they just happen to be down a lot this year.

After the top 2 or 3 teams, it falls off quite a bit.

Ohio State, Indiana, then... Penn State?

 

[Tammany Hall]

Ohio State, Indiana, then... Penn State?

Ha, maybe…

 

[76-1]

In all our seasons, I am not sure we have seen a more favorable B1G schedule. This is to not take anything aaay from Cig. But no Penn state. No Ohio State. No iowa. No wisconsin. Michigan likely will be unranked when we face them. We have an extremely favorable schedule. We are winning convincingly and can only play whoever is on the schedule. It has to be the weakest in the conference.

I just don't see that...

The back half of our schedule is as tough as it's ever been... p u is pathetic but you know we'll see their only decent effort of the year. There aren't any walk overs left...

Nebraska is a toss up and always is a really tough game.

Washington sure looks dangerous to me.

Michigan State up there has never been anything close to a sure thing and it's still a Trophy Game. They have talent and always buy a Ref (for their version of "taking the competitive edge" 😡)...

Michigan is beatable but I wouldn't expect that to be anything but a nail biter... (you can expect them to bring a couple of Referines with them)

At "the" o-h-i-o $tate will be difficult at best...

The Bucket Game is..., well...,
THE Bucket Game...
Anything can happen and it's a certainty that we'll see p u play their only decent showing of the entire season for at least 3 quarters...

2024 Indiana Football Schedule | FBSchedules.com

View the 2024 Indiana Football Schedule at FBSchedules.com. The IU Hoosiers football schedule includes opponents, date, time, and TV.

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[JamieDimonsBalls]

If he becomes a regular guy that MacAfee talks about, that will have quite a lot more impact than you're giving it credit for. There's a reason ESPN pays him as much as they do, and look the other way on some of the fringy things he says.

AD's follow all the same stuff everyone does, I'm sure. Obviously they have many other deciding factors, but MacAfee is pretty heavily followed in the football world.

Pat has saved college game day. So much better with him in it

 

[aajohn2000]

I just don't see that...

The back half of our schedule is as tough as it's ever been... p u is pathetic but you know we'll see their only decent effort of the year. There aren't any walk overs left...

Nebraska is a toss up and always is a really tough game.

Washington sure looks dangerous to me.

Michigan State up there has never been anything close to a sure thing and it's still a Trophy Game. They have talent and always buy a Ref (for their version of "taking the competitive edge" 😡)...

Michigan is beatable but I wouldn't expect that to be anything but a nail biter... (you can expect them to bring a couple of Referines with them)

At "the" o-h-i-o $tate will be difficult at best...

The Bucket Game is..., well...,
THE Bucket Game...
Anything can happen and it's a certainty that we'll see p u play their only decent showing of the entire season for at least 3 quarters...

2024 Indiana Football Schedule | FBSchedules.com

View the 2024 Indiana Football Schedule at FBSchedules.com. The IU Hoosiers football schedule includes opponents, date, time, and TV.

fbschedules.com

Agree to disagree. We will face one ranked team the rest of the season and that's OSU. The rest will all be vs unranked opponents and all but one game (@MSU) is at home. Pretty easy road. Again, no Penn State. No Oregon. No USC. No Iowa. No Wiscy. No Rutgers. No Minnesota. honestly, I do not think Michigan is all that good and I think we will be favored in every game except at OSU. Historically speaking, this has never been the case.

 

[Tammany Hall]

Iowa, Wisky, Rutgers, Minny? They’re okay but not particularly good.

 

[Al Bino]

Agree to disagree. We will face one ranked team the rest of the season and that's OSU. The rest will all be vs unranked opponents and all but one game (@MSU) is at home. Pretty easy road. Again, no Penn State. No Oregon. No USC. No Iowa. No Wiscy. No Rutgers. No Minnesota. honestly, I do not think Michigan is all that good and I think we will be favored in every game except at OSU. Historically speaking, this has never been the case.

You act like IU fans are used to winning and have in the past.
Are you one of those people dating an 8 or 9 but is pissed because she isn't a 10?
IU has won the games on the schedule and so far it is a historic season and I am enjoying the hell out of it.
Why don't you do the same?

 

[aajohn2000]

You act like IU fans are used to winning and have in the past.
Are you one of those people dating an 8 or 9 but is pissed because she isn't a 10?
IU has won the games on the schedule and so far it is a historic season and I am enjoying the hell out of it.
Why don't you do the same?

I forgot how sensitive the peeps are in the football board. Never said I wasn’t enjoying it. It’s awesome . My point is that we have a very favorable schedule in a down year in the B1G. It sets us up well. And I would say, historically speaking, playing likely one ranked opponent on the schedule the entire season is historically a “light” schedule. Remove your emotion and defense mechanisms and try and be factual and objective . I do not have the time nor interest in going back and looking, but I welcome anyone to tell me a season where the league schedule was more favorable than the one we are in. This is not taking nothing away from our team and how they are playing. We ware winning and in convincing fashion. We are a very good team. It does not take away from the fact we have yet to play a ranked team all season and likely will only face one the rest of the season.

 

[IUgradman]

I forgot how sensitive the peeps are in the football board. Never said I wasn’t enjoying it. It’s awesome . My point is that we have a very favorable schedule in a down year in the B1G. It sets us up well. And I would say, historically speaking, playing likely one ranked opponent on the schedule the entire season is historically a “light” schedule. Remove your emotion and defense mechanisms and try and be factual and objective . I do not have the time nor interest in going back and looking, but I welcome anyone to tell me a season where the league schedule was more favorable than the one we are in. This is not taking nothing away from our team and how they are playing. We ware winning and in convincing fashion. We are a very good team. It does not take away from the fact we have yet to play a ranked team all season and likely will only face one the rest of the season.

UCLA, Maryland, and Northwestern all won 8 games last year. Michigan is the defending national champion. Michigan State is historically a good program. You never know how good a particular team will be in any given year.

 

[aajohn2000]

Iowa, Wisky, Rutgers, Minny? They’re okay but not particularly good.

No. They are not. I agree with that. But, they currently have a better record than the teams we have played in the big ten:

UCLA / Maryland / NW
Combined record: 0-6

Iowa / Wiscy / Rutgers / Minny
Combined B1G record: 4-5