M$U Just Being M$U
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Glass houses??? We didn't cover up a rape culture for gawds sakes. You type in scandal and dantonio and there are pages of articles about his bullshit cover ups. Izzo too, as well as Nassar. Surprised some dads of the victims haven't taken matters into their own hands.
Sixteen players have been accused of sexual assault or violence against women under football coach Mark Dantonio’s watch since 2007, according to interviews and public records obtained by ESPN, despite the football coach addressing four football players in June as the first offenders he dealt with any such issues on. Four Spartans football players — Josh King, Donnie Corley and Demetric Vance in a January 2017 incident, and Auston Robertson in an April 2017 incident — were dismissed last year and face criminal sexual conduct charges.
Basketball coach Tom Izzo had several incidents occur under his watch as well.
In ESPN’s report, former Michigan State sexual assault counselor Lauren Allswede was interviewed. The former Michigan State staffer of seven years left the university in 2015 because of how the athletic program covered up sexual assault cases. Allswede said sexual assault cases were handled or investigated by the athletic department, including Hollis and coaches of players accused.
Allswede said: “Whatever protocol or policy was in place, whatever frontline staff might normally be involved in response or investigation, it all got kind of swept away and it was handled more by administration (and) athletic department officials. It was all happening behind closed doors. ... None of it was transparent or included people who would normally be involved in certain decisions."
"A lot of the statements that are coming out now ... from Mark Hollis or administration claiming there's no rape culture, is misleading," Allswede added. "When there's multiple reports against specific programs, that needs to be followed up on. That needs to be addressed. It's not a coincidence."
The report comes after president Lou Anna Simon announced her resignation Wednesday, Hollis’ resignation Friday, and in the wake of Nassar’s sentencing to 40 to 175 years in prison for sexual abuse stemming from his time as the Spartans’ doctor and USA Gymnastics’ team doctor.
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This is what Indiana fans have become, take advantage of a typo for a “win” lol that must suck
Guess I would rather do that as opposed to taking advantage of a girl for a “win”.
This is an issue nationally and one that IU addresses seriously, openly and head on rather than pretending it doesn't happen on campus and on the varsity rosters protected by coaches and excused by alumni.
I "took advantage of a typo" for a stupid joke. The fact that, at 4:30 am, you felt compelled to condemn that suggests you need to get a life.
But we have proven over and over again that most schools don't have this problem. Schools have players who do bad things and schools react proportionately.
M$U prefers to attempt to win at all costs (but failing to really even do that) by keeping these players and harboring sexual predators while knowing they are such. Its not about someone was with a school and got kicked out or in Kiante Enis position that you mentioned, NEVER EVEN MADE IT TO CAMPUS, its about your school hiding the facts and allowing it without punishment. This is really simple stuff but as an M$U fan, obviously this is just too hard for you to grasp.
Well I posted at 4 something...Couldn't sleep so watched Uruguay in a big upset over Fiji in the rugby world cup.
Saw the post and had to set things straight. They know for a fact there were much more than 16 incidents from the football team alone but thats all that stepped forward. Sad!
Yea they even went as far as to extend the Dantonio contract amid the scandal? Thats pure horsesh!t! Who does that? Maybe Baylor or psu...
Rose Bowl winner, Cotton Bowl winner, multiple appearances in BT title game and a win there, final 4 in football, 8 final 4's in BB, the last BT NCAA BB champ, preseason #1.
Have you had a few in season wins vs us? Yes.
You should stick to discussing off the field stuff not sports...whoops this is a sports board
All at a cost of what? Hopefully you have a daughter that goes to msu and goes to football parties. WTF?
There are 2 sets of issues. Let's see if we can agree.
1. In the sports realm how about you admit , your off field "concerns" are fueled by substantial jealousy of our sports program, especially, coming into the state and taking recruits. You have a lot of hate for Kentucky and Purdue so let's not dismiss the rivalry impact. For example, I spend time on the WIsky boards and while there may be 1 or 2 instances of angst about MSU, it hardly reaches the vitriol here.
2.Now, I agree there has been a culture at MSU that has covered up sexual harrassment and other such issues. I hope that will change. I attended grad school in the late 60's and and embarrassed that this happened here, at a school that helped me reach my career goals and develop personally.
The problem is when there is a major scandal, as with Nasser, everyone gets slimed-Izzo and Dantonio had nothing to do with Nasser, didnt know about them etc. ESPN has an anti MSU agenda-there is no doubt about it.
Izzo and Dantonio have kicked problem players off the team. Some real good commits were kicked off Dantonio's 2016 class. If you look at Iowa States past rosters you will see several transfers from MSU basketball for 1 problem or another.
So, if these 2 coaches are guilty of anything, it is giving some guys more chances than they should have. One of the worst cases, Auston Robertson, btw had offers from 9 BT schools , including IU.
Is it easy to manage 85 football players who are recruited , partly for their aggressiveness and many come from difficult backgrounds.
It's a mixed bag.
For 25 years in the business with few personnel issues, and for all he has contributed to the game and the school, Izzo deserves a break.
Dantonio , I hope, has learned some lessons, in how much latitude /chances you can give out.
CTA go kick these f*cktards in the teeth. TIA
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Think a little bit about your initial statement: “you can taken the bro out of the hood but you cannot take the hood out of the bro.”
You are literally saying that a person of color coming from a very bad economic environment is essentially a gangster who cannot change. I am not inferring anything from your statement. I am just reading it at face value. Your words not mine.
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