Someone dumb enough to buy the crap that being a trumper is required to be a conservative
Lifelong Republican Mayor of Mesa, Arizona Endorses Harris
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I never said that shit for brains (Trump wasn’t even mentioned in my post). If you endorse Harris you’re not a conservative.
You gonna go by and check out any of the DNC this week? We've locked up the condo and fled to Northbrook to house sit for my parents. Dog really loves the big yard.
Get out while you can.
hey shit for brains, who is running against Harris?
Oh yea Trump.
A conservative that doesn't want Trump to win would vote for Harris. Doesn't make them not a conservative. Only dumb sheep like you would think so.
I ask because I don't know the answer... Mesa is closer to the border than most of us on this board are, obviously. But I wonder how big of a problem the immigration issues are to Mesa?
Its obviously noteworthy that a Republican Mayor, of a city that close to the border, endorses the Democratic candidate.
Would a city like Mesa actually be adversely effected by Trumps deportation policies?
I kinda doubt this Republican mayor is endorsing Harris because he doesn't like Trump, the person. There's something about Mesa that he/they feel Harris is the better choice? And further, since he's a Republican, in a Republican city...all the dumb ass posts in this thread about him being a progressive, are worthless.
So...what's the actual reason?
Yes they would. Doesn't change the fact the McM had clearly been hitting the liquor yesterday but yes they would. Screens, in moderation and in the right circumstances, are a gods damned God send.
Mesa is a burb of Phoenix. Who knows. Trump said something mean? Mayor’s brother is an immigration lawyer and it’s good for biz. Friend of McCain? Who cares. Look at the numbers yourself and figure out how we’re going to process that many people, subsidize that many people as they certainly aren’t EB-5 entries, and the point of having border laws if we’re just going to let people in etc. there was a purpose behind 42, the wall funding, asylum agreements, remain in Mexico etc. The purpose behind everything this admin will do is progressive feelz
And I will add two kids at home with endless treats and friends over and family around them and they are still hard. I cannot fathom these poor people making that trek and all they endure with little ones. It’s beyond words. But the numbers crossing under Harris are untenable as a country if that continued.
It's completely fair to question his Conservative credentials. First of all, Mayor elections are non-partisan, he might be a registered Republican, but he's never won a Republican primary.
It's not just the Harris endorsement either, he endorsed Mark Kelly for Senate in 2022 as well and was censured by the Arizona GOP. He's thrown out Progressive red meat as Mayor like a "City wide non-discrimination ordinance" (discrimination is already illegal) and a "Climate action plan" (Mayor's have a ton of sway over the global temperature you know, definitely something he should focus on).
Lastly, when the Arizona tried to pass a law to increase housing supply that would have cut red tape and overridden HOA restrictions he opposed it.
Meh. Former Democratic Presidential Candidate Tulsi Gabbard left the dem party and endorsed Trump. Stuff happens both ways. Of course, I'm sure someone will say she's a RUSSIAN AGENT!!!!!!!!
Hey, when do you and brad leave for your Florida vacation?
This is a very interesting post. I don’t know this guy in Mesa nor care about him but I do believe your sentiment re the rest. The new populist republicans should win elections but for trump
Good info...
So...the point of my questions...My understanding is Mesa is fairly conservative, one of the more conservative areas of Phoenix...why do they keep reelecting a guy that has openly supported Democrats?
Or is his open Democratic support all recent, and he hasn't face reelection since the endorsements you mentioned?
In true "politics of today" fashion...he's now being portrayed as a progressive left politician...Trying to square how its possible for a person like that to remain in power in a place like Mesa?
Also...your last sentence... seems like a law like the one you mention would have benefitted illegal immigrants??? No?? Any sort of increase in housing inventory, and decrease in neighborhood regulations...would lead to less costly housing, and more multi family homes = traditionally more immigrant friendly conditions.
Maybe this is getting contagious:
If he is LDS/Mormon, it would explain it a bit, because as a group, most Mormons HATE trump. Too lazy to look up whether he is or isn’t.
Yeah I don't know if he personally is or not, I was just pointing out how Conservative Mesa is. Seems like every year there are always players from Mesa on both BYU football and basketball squads...
And your point about Mormons disliking Trump is very well taken. Relatively speaking for a state as Red as Utah. the anti-Trump sentiment is plapable.
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Lifelong pub in Georgia, former Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan, has the same feeling:
“I think it’s important to reinforce the fact to Republicans around the country that just because you vote for Kamala Harris in 2024, doesn’t mean you’re Democrat,” Duncan told CNN anchor Jim Acosta.
“It just means you’re a patriot,” Duncan continued. “You’re doing your duty as an American to step up to the plate and reclaim this country’s future.”
www.washingtonexaminer.com
“I think it’s important to reinforce the fact to Republicans around the country that just because you vote for Kamala Harris in 2024, doesn’t mean you’re Democrat,” Duncan told CNN anchor Jim Acosta.
“It just means you’re a patriot,” Duncan continued. “You’re doing your duty as an American to step up to the plate and reclaim this country’s future.”
Former Georgia GOP leader tells citizens it ‘doesn’t mean you’re Democrat’ to vote for Kamala Harris - Washington Examiner
Once-GOP Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan has continued to nudge Republicans into supporting Vice President Kamala Harris
www.washingtonexaminer.com
Don't forget Ana Navarro! She's also a Republican and will be voting Harris. And Michael Steele!
We were discussing high ranking elected GOP politicians. How would she qualify
that one's better! ex RNC chair, at least
He had a great line, saying that "The Republican Party Needs A Political Enema"
Ex-RNC Chair Michael Steele Says Republican Party Needs A 'Political Enema'
"And I'm happy to deliver it," he told Larry Wilmore.
Unfortunately he also seems to glom onto some stupid conspiracy theories around the Trump assassination attempt, so I'm not sure he's of a particularly sound mind.
Plus, if you gave the GOP a good enema, you'd get a bunch of Trump on your hands. Ewwwww....
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There are plenty of reasons not to like Trump, but why would Mormons particularly dislike Trump?
In a faith that stresses obedience and lawfulness, both the Jan. 6 insurrection and the continued obviously false claims of a stolen election have soured many LDS voters on the GOP.
some links for you, Aloha:
www.americansurveycenter.org
www.esquire.com
some links for you, Aloha:
Trump’s Problem with Mormon Voters is Getting Worse
His ongoing weaknesses with a loyal Republican group could spell trouble for the GOP
www.americansurveycenter.org
Mormons Don’t Want to Vote for Trump
This could be a whopper of a problem for him in Arizona in particular.
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J Michael Luttig now openly endorsing Harris. Obviously not surprising he wouldn't endorse Trump, but I think it is noteworthy that he is taking the step of endorsing Harris.
I don't know if these Republican endorsements really end up meaning anything to either campaign, in the long run. But It does seem like there are more known prominent Republicans endorsing away from Trump, than we've seen since he won the nomination originally in 16.
I don't know if these Republican endorsements really end up meaning anything to either campaign, in the long run. But It does seem like there are more known prominent Republicans endorsing away from Trump, than we've seen since he won the nomination originally in 16.
Interesting. Makes sense. Also nice to see Mormons aren’t morons who believe Trump lost 2020 due to election fraud. It’s disappointing so many white Christian evangelicals do believe that. Then again, many also believe humans lived with dinosaurs and even had them on Noah’s ark.In a faith that stresses obedience and lawfulness, both the Jan. 6 insurrection and the continued obviously false claims of a stolen election have soured many LDS voters on the GOP.
some links for you, Aloha:
Trump’s Problem with Mormon Voters is Getting Worse
His ongoing weaknesses with a loyal Republican group could spell trouble for the GOP
Mormons Don’t Want to Vote for Trump
This could be a whopper of a problem for him in Arizona in particular.
I’m an anti abortion Catholic who feels the same way.
But I’m also a what you do with your life and body is none of my business Catholic.
Yeh, never heard of that guy but could see how McCain Arizona followers are anti-Trump because he was buddies with Biden. Guess they had support for endless wars in common. Like the republicans, I think the old style Democrats have been taken over by the Progressives. These old guys are getting pushed aside in both parties. I guess they are called moderates now and seem to be more inclined to vote Democratic because of their desire for war. I listen to a lot of podcasts and it seems all other parties, independents and even Trump don't want war. It is only the Dems. It sounds as if Germany is now pulling out of providing Ukraine war funds. Seems the anti-war sentiment would be another easy attacking point against the Dems.
The parties are definitely changing. The Dems are a progressive party now, clearly, and the pubs have dumped the old guard for a more populist crowd
Holy crap, that’s a poorly written bunch of nonsense.
I think he’s right. The left have been taken over by progressives hence Harris/Walz. And the Republican Party is a populist party - ordinary working stiffs, don’t want to police the World etc.
John is LDS, and yes, Mesa is very conservative. John is a great guy and has done a remarkable job as mayor. He's term-limited, so his time is up at the end of the year. I wish he would run for Congress. You couldn't find a higher quality guy who truly cares about public service. John is similar to many other Republicans in Arizona. The crazies have control of the party, unfortunately, so many true conservative Republicans have moved away from the current GOP candidates. What Trump and his gang did in trying to undo the election results in AZ last time turned people off. Look up what they did to Rusty Bowers for a great example. We will have an initiative on the ballot in November that might change things. If passed, it would allow eligible voters to participate in primary elections for either party. The majority of voters in AZ are registered as independent, so most don't participate, leaving the crazies to elect their candidates of choice. Most of them in state-wide offices lose. Watch Kari Lake go down in the Senate race this fall.
BTW, most LDS members are very conservative politically and will vote for Trump. Many do so enthusiastically. Our congressman is Biggs, also LDS, and one of the more Trumpier Trump supporters. He's a real gem.
They’re going to continue to struggle winning elections. Women, especially single, want security and vote for it. It’s biologically engrained in them. Democrats offer it and tug on their empathy strings. It’s always going to be difficult for Republicans.
Ummm...
McCain supporters are anti-Trump because Trump was over-the-top anti-military, anti-veteran, and lobbed baseless lie-tainted criticisms at McCain every waking moment.
Do you even recall "He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured"???
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