Whether libs or pubs I have the same distain for lazy asses sitting home collecting unemployment and welfare when there’s plenty of jobs.
Whiny ass libs are ones pushing the free stuff.
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Whiny ass libs are ones pushing the free stuff.
Bwahahahahaha. The English.... You wouldn’t make it a week in an Amish community.
I agree that there are lazy people that take full advantage of the system, but there are also people that have worked their entire lives that should be able to take advantage of unemployment when needed.
I've got a theory that the pandemic started a trend of boomers retiring early. I know at my work, we had two retire early, and we only have about 40 employees. They were guys that had been kicking around the idea but the pandemic just pushed them over the edge. I could be totally wrong, but I'm guessing that's where a portion of our workforce went.
My father always said, "know your worth." I've worked a long time and if I lost my job know, I wouldn't rush into the first thing just because it was a paying job unless I really wanted it and it fit what I wanted to do. He's also always taught me basic math. If staying at home makes me more than job A does, and job A isn't a place that I want to work and would stay at, why would I take take that job?
I'll put my work ethic up against any Amish poster on here!
Your last paragraph is where I would step in and force the issue as the government by ending all expanded unemployment benefits so that the pay went back to what it was before COVID and instead of people losing out on $40 to $80 a week by being picky, they would be losing out on several hundred dollars. It should not be more lucrative to stay home when the economy is begging for labor and we have 11 million laborers sitting on the sidelines because of government benefits. That is the whole point.
And yes, if a better paying job is available to you or a similar paying job and you continue to collect money from the taxpayers, I do judge you harshly.
Only the English would have the hubris to make such an outlandish remark
It'll be interesting to see what happens in Indiana since the extra unemployment benefits ended on June 19.
Well it seems many states are pulling the plug on the UEI boost. Even the People's Republic of California is reinstating the requirement to actively look for work next month. Indiana ended the boost June 19th.
Ends nationally in Sept so I anticipate this only being a transitory issue.
Thankfully. It was a perverse, economy killing incentive. We don't have things if people don't work.
I'm not convinced that it is the UIE alone, however. Particularly for these service level jobs in travel and leisure. Certainly a part of it, but that alone isn't enough to fill the some 9m job openings.
As I previously posted, some states (AZ, NV, MI) ended their programs in May, so we should get a feel for how that impacts June employment data.
I think as cited in mark’s article some people saved money by a year of not going out etc. no rush to go back
It may not be the only thing, but it is at least a start. Even if it only fills 60% of the jobs, it is better than what is currently happening.
Maybe the baby boomers finally up and left the labor force...who knows, but we will get a clearer picture of the issue when we get rid of the artificial bump to unemployment caused by these additional payments.
I won’t argue with your math. If my golf buddy followed your math he wouldn’t be a multi millionaire with multiple franchise locations and retired playing golf every day ending in Y before age 60.
There’s some chicken and egg stuff too. Today, many downtown Indianapolis restaurants are still closed. When they closed in March 2020, many lost their jobs and relied on the UI benefits. Fast forward to today, many jobs never came back. So are the restaurants closed because they can’t get workers or are many unemployed because the restaurants are closed?
I can churn butter, hand-milk a cow, pluck a chicken, help build a barn, and clean a squirrel.
Mad Amish skills
Mad Amish skills
I have numerous examples in my practice and other friends. I also have myself as an example.
I’ve done all those but churn butter 😂
Operating a butter churn is like using a hand crank ice cream maker, but even SLOWER.
Maybe they’re waiting it out. My buddy owns a half a dozen restaurants and he related between the “price of protein” and shortage of staff he was better off during the shutdown. Hyperbole a bit but who knows. I bet people saved money not going out, got stimulus, unemployment and aren’t desperate yet. I bet this fall we see a return to normalcy
Or perhaps they're closed because of overzealous policies and that's also why there are unemployed people.
You don't see nearly economic carnage in the restaurant industry in Carmel, Fishers, Noblesville or Greenwood. Probably other cities bordering Indy too, but those are the 4 with which I have experience.
I am not downtown as much anymore but I can tell you my area (Noblesville/Fishers) is hiring everywhere. The restaurants are open and they almost all want employees. That goes from fast food to the higher end establishments.
Marion County is a different animal though because Hogsett is taking longer to open Indy back up. So I cannot speak for Indy.
Maybe we should start our own "cancelling" of people. Those lazy asses that game the system and MORE importantly, those lazy asses that create policy that entice it! ... AT OUR (kids) EXPENSE.
I'm not blaming the individual - people act in their best interests. If it pays more to sit on their ass than work a crappy job, I'm sure I'd do the same. Actually, I've worked plenty of crappy jobs in my life, but if I didn't, I didn't eat. That's the difference between then and now.
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There's been a labor shortage for shit service jobs since way before the pandemic.
One of the arguments against Andrew Yang's automation take over was the fact that there was a massive labor shortage and automation is needed to do shit, burger flipping jobs.
My suspicion from a 50 year old retiree is there's new online markets the youth is extremely interested in that I have no clue about (crypto, nft, tic tok, fortnight, second life, etc) along with the stigma that working fast food is loser work.
I also suspect that the more we tighten immigration, we're going to discover that illegal immigrants play a huge role in our economy.
As far as unemployment benefits, it's simply job insurance for everyone including you. It fills up during the good years and helps transition during the bad years.
As people are finding out, the older you get the less desirable you become (you're at the peak of salary, you've leveled off from a climber to a sustainer, you have less future years to offer but still have to be trained and indoctrinated into the company culture, etc).
Anyway, since the job insurance program has started we haven't had an economic depression or any kind of extended unemployment crises.
You forgot your specialty - collecting bull semen.
Just went to lunch at a little town outside Charlotte.
They had a lunch menu last time I was there, but there wasn't one today. I asked why: they couldn't get a lot of the ingredients, or the prices went up so much that they would have to increase prices too much, so they didn't have a lunch menu today.
But, you know, there are no shortages or inflation under Gestapo Joe.
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