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Kenneth puts us at 45.6%

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to win. 16.4% to reach the semis, 6.8% to reach the finals, and a 2.7% shot at being champs.

The worst loss Kenneth logs the Hoosiers is the home loss to Rutgers, baring a first round loss to a bottom 4 team, is an assured tourney team. All the rest are category B or A. Oddly, Cuse loss (88 in pom) is an A game, but Penn State (91 in pom) is a B game. 90 the cut off, or some weird algorithm? I would guess the latter.


Two wins 100% puts the Hoosiers in, 1 win and we hope like hell Davidson wins the A10 I think we are in.
 
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to win. 16.4% to reach the semis, 6.8% to reach the finals, and a 2.7% shot at being champs.

The worst loss Kenneth logs the Hoosiers is the home loss to Rutgers, baring a first round loss to a bottom 4 team, is an assured tourney team. All the rest are category B or A. Oddly, Cuse loss (88 in pom) is an A game, but Penn State (91 in pom) is a B game. 90 the cut off, or some weird algorithm? I would guess the latter.


Two wins 100% puts the Hoosiers in, 1 win and we hope like hell Davidson wins the A10 I think we are in.
Those odds are too high 6.8% to make the finals? I put it more at like 2% max.
 
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You are going to get trashed and insulted for that response . Be ready they are coming for you the name calling will start very soon because you are not going with the narrative that we are going to beat Michigan and likley even beat Illinois. Only rainbows and unicorns are allowed.
 
You are going to get trashed and insulted for that response . Be ready they are coming for you the name calling will start very soon because you are not going with the narrative that we are going to beat Michigan and likley even beat Illinois. Only rainbows and unicorns are allowed.
You're getting trashed because you do nothing but whine and complain on EVERY.SINGLE.THREAD while openly admitting that you don't even watch the games. Read the room dude. Nobody likes a whiner.
 
You're getting trashed because you do nothing but whine and complain on EVERY.SINGLE.THREAD while openly admitting that you don't even watch the games. Read the room dude. Nobody likes a whiner.
No one likes 6 straight seasons of missing the tournament either. Especially when next season looks to be even worse.
 
No one likes 6 straight seasons of missing the tournament either. Especially when next season looks to be even worse.
Neither do I.

And guess what, you'll never find me posting 100+ times the same drivel over and over again on every single thread. If something is that miserable for you that you feel compelled to ruin an entire message board you probably need to find a new hobby.
 
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No one likes 6 straight seasons of missing the tournament either. Especially when next season looks to be even worse.
If I complain about the people that whine about the whiners, does that make me guilty of whining about the people whining about the people that are whining?
 
Neither do I.

And guess what, you'll never find me posting 100+ times the same drivel over and over again on every single thread. If something is that miserable for you that you feel compelled to ruin an entire message board you probably need to find a new hobby.
Nope, you will just continue to post fanboy comments in every single thread.
 
Lol.

Show me one "fan boy" comment I've made?
Well, you just called CJ Gunn a 3 level scorer that IU is missing.

1. Not sure how you don't view XJ as a 3 level scorer.
2. Gunn doesn't project to be a 3 level scorer in the B1G. after being here for a couple years, he might find himself as a spot shooter.
 
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You are going to get trashed and insulted for that response . Be ready they are coming for you the name calling will start very soon because you are not going with the narrative that we are going to beat Michigan and likley even beat Illinois. Only rainbows and unicorns are allowed.
He will not because he is not all negative all the time. You tried to be positive and it lasted about a week before every one of your posts became negative again.
 
Well, you just called CJ Gunn a 3 level scorer that IU is missing.

1. Not sure how you don't view XJ as a 3 level scorer.
2. Gunn doesn't project to be a 3 level scorer in the B1G. after being here for a couple years, he might find himself as a spot shooter.

Interjecting myself here, not sure how that is a fan boy comment.

1. XJ has been a pleasant surprise this year and likely fits the criteria

2. I too was at the Warren/LN game (not Cathedral) and fail to see how or why Gunn can’t be a three level scorer in the B10? He’s got the size and athleticism. Have you seen him play live at all this year?
 
Interjecting myself here, not sure how that is a fan boy comment.

1. XJ has been a pleasant surprise this year and likely fits the criteria

2. I too was at the Warren/LN game (not Cathedral) and fail to see how or why Gunn can’t be a three level scorer in the B10? He’s got the size and athleticism. Have you seen him play live at all this year?
I haven't seen him play live, but have seen some of his games online. He's playing against high schoolers. Practically every player that comes to the B1G did the exact same thing in high school. He's a guy that won't have an impact until his Junior or Senior year, and it will be as a role player. Thinking he will be anything more than that is fanboy.
 
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He will not because he is not all negative all the time. You tried to be positive and it lasted about a week before every one of your posts became negative again.
We were 7-4 and ended up 9-11. So, we finished 2-7, with wins against Maryland and Minnesota. If we beat Michigan you’ll see plenty of positive posts. In the meantime people are going to vent. Especially if they are die hard fans that are sick of the status quo. Better than apathy.
 
I haven't seen him play live, but have seen some of his games online. He's playing against high schoolers. Practically every player that comes to the B1G did the exact same thing in high school. He's a guy that won't have an impact until his Junior or Senior year, and it will be as a role player. Thinking he will be anything more than that is fanboy.
So if you think anyone in any IU class is going to make an impact prior to their jr year, then you define them as a fanboy? Hmmm. Pretty sure we have had lots of freshman make impacts over the years at verifying ranks coming in.
 
I haven't seen him play live, but have seen some of his games online. He's playing against high schoolers. Practically every player that comes to the B1G did the exact same thing in high school. He's a guy that won't have an impact until his Junior or Senior year, and it will be as a role player. Thinking he will be anything more than that is fanboy.

So just as I assumed, you’ve never seen him play and you’re basing his potential strictly based on his recruiting ranking/# of stars next to his name. Count me in as a fan boy then who thinks Gunn will more than a role player at IU.
 
We were 7-4 and ended up 9-11. So, we finished 2-7, with wins against Maryland and Minnesota. If we beat Michigan you’ll see plenty of positive posts. In the meantime people are going to vent. Especially if they are die hard fans that are sick of the status quo. Better than apathy.
I am a die hard fan sick of the status quo and I can still find positive things to say.
 
So if you think anyone in any IU class is going to make an impact prior to their jr year, then you define them as a fanboy? Hmmm. Pretty sure we have had lots of freshman make impacts over the years at verifying ranks coming in.
Did I say that? JHS is an instant impact player. Bates should have been. Romeo was. TJD, Cody, TB, JBJ, ect.

CJ Gunn is not close to the talent level of any of the guys I just mentioned. He's a Leal/Galloway level talent.
 
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So just as I assumed, you’ve never seen him play and you’re basing his potential strictly based on his recruiting ranking/# of stars next to his name. Count me in as a fan boy then who thinks Gunn will more than a role player at IU.
I literally just told you I have seen him play several times online. Nothing jumps out.

Just added you to the list.
 
Did I say that? JHS is an instant impact player. Bates should have been. Romeo was. TJD, Cody, TB, JBJ, ect.

CJ Gunn is not close to the talent level of any of the guys I just mentioned. He's a Leal/Galloway level talent.
Galloway made an impact his freshman year. And his second freshman year when he wasn’t hurt.
 
Interjecting myself here, not sure how that is a fan boy comment.

1. XJ has been a pleasant surprise this year and likely fits the criteria

2. I too was at the Warren/LN game (not Cathedral) and fail to see how or why Gunn can’t be a three level scorer in the B10? He’s got the size and athleticism. Have you seen him play live at all this year?
The injury and Covid has kept his development down but damn he’s just taking over games. He’s also playing against Indianas best players night in and night out. I’m not sure why at this point all the negative Nancy stuff. Gunn has clearly made big strides. Most of the summer highlights are outdated. Kid can score from all three levels. Has a lot of elevation on his shots too. Woody will get his defense in order too.
 
Did I say that? JHS is an instant impact player. Bates should have been. Romeo was. TJD, Cody, TB, JBJ, ect.

CJ Gunn is not close to the talent level of any of the guys I just mentioned. He's a Leal/Galloway level talent.
Lmao. No he’s not. He’s closer to Galloway but leal? JHS won’t play a bunch if X and Rob stay. If lander makes the jump then he’s 4th on the depth chart. Gunn is a solid 2. He will play.
 
The injury and Covid has kept his development down but damn he’s just taking over games. He’s also playing against Indianas best players night in and night out. I’m not sure why at this point all the negative Nancy stuff. Gunn has clearly made big strides. Most of the summer highlights are outdated. Kid can score from all three levels. Has a lot of elevation on his shots too. Woody will get his defense in order too.

Yes.

Gunn had a lesser role as a junior on an LN team loaded with talent that finished as 4A runner-ups and was hurt during most the AAU and evaluating period last summer and missed a few weeks to start the season this year. The posters calling Gunn a role player at best are strictly basing it off his recruiting ranking and nothing else. They’ve likely never seen him play live.
 
Galloway made an impact his freshman year. And his second freshman year when he wasn’t hurt.
He did not make an impact last year. He made a small impact this year. Both teams missed the tournament. Maybe I should have said Gunn has no chance of making an impact on a good P6 team until his Junior or Senior year. He could be a backup for a team like Nebraska and Minnesota had this year.
 
Then your ability to assess and evaluate talent is absolute dogshit.
Weird that nothing jumps out to recruiting analysts and his offer list was dogshit, so other coaches aren't very impressed either. I'm sure you are a great talent evaluator, though. You should quit your day job.
 
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Yes.

Gunn had a lesser role as a junior on an LN team loaded with talent that finished as 4A runner-ups and was hurt during most the AAU and evaluating period last summer and missed a few weeks to start the season this year. The posters calling Gunn a role player at best are strictly basing it off his recruiting ranking and nothing else. They’ve likely never seen him play live.
Especially late in the season. He’s really elevated his game. He’s looking closer to an Ivey than a leal. Lol.
 
He did not make an impact last year. He made a small impact this year. Both teams missed the tournament. Maybe I should have said Gunn has no chance of making an impact on a good P6 team until his Junior or Senior year. He could be a backup for a team like Nebraska and Minnesota had this year.
I suppose it’s what you consider an impact to a team. I think coming in as a true freshman playing 20 minutes per game and being considered one of the best perimeter defenders on the team is an impact.

I do not expect Gunn to be our star next year as a freshman but I believe he will have a role off the bench and give good minutes with the potential to average 6-8 off the bench. To me that would be an impact.
 
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Lmao. No he’s not. He’s closer to Galloway but leal? JHS won’t play a bunch if X and Rob stay. If lander makes the jump then he’s 4th on the depth chart. Gunn is a solid 2. He will play.
Galloway hasn't made an impact.

JHS better play if Woodson wants any hope of turning things around. Cut both XJ and Rob if there is any chance of not playing JHS. Woodson has already severely slowed the development of Bates and Geronimo.

Gunn won't get more minutes next year than Leal has this year.
 
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Well, you just called CJ Gunn a 3 level scorer that IU is missing.

1. Not sure how you don't view XJ as a 3 level scorer.
2. Gunn doesn't project to be a 3 level scorer in the B1G. after being here for a couple years, he might find himself as a spot shooter.

So a fan boy is someone with whom you have a difference of opinion. Got it.
 
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I suppose it’s what you consider an impact to a team. I think coming in as a true freshman playing 20 minutes per game and being considered one of the best perimeter defenders on the team is an impact.

I do not expect Gunn to be our star next year as a freshman but I believe he will have a role off the bench and give good minutes with the potential to average 6-8 off the bench. To me that would be an impact.
Galloway did that on a team that went 12-15.

6-8 points would have made Gunn our 4th leading scorer this year. You are delusional if you think he is averaging 6-8 points next year. He won't even average 6-8 minutes (unless we are Nebraska or Minny bad which is possible).
 
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So a fan boy is someone with whom you have a difference of opinion. Got it.
No, a fanboy is someone who thinks the answer to all of our problems lies in a low ranked/recruited player that is very similar to a lot of the players we have had the last few years that got us into this mess.
 
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