I second that. I’m retired (twice) but I know a ton of people in government and worked in government before my final job. Twenty has it right.
Just nothin going on in Dc. People never went
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Nah, a few boomers having issues with their Slack and Zoom login doesn’t mean less efficient.
I've worked in education the past 20 years. I've had the exact opposite experience.
I suspect we are all generalizing and there are thousands of differing experiences
Not surprised. My experience is mostly military and DoD and they’re filled with Type A workaholic personnel.
Gotcha. I'd also add military is life or death, which is a major incentive to being the best.
My kids would be lottery lucky to learn from you. Education can’t be all bad
Possibly. Work hard, play hard is a thing, but it’s quite possible Pete played much too hard.
She would be a Bitcoiner and running her own financial TikTok channel by the end of the semester. I don't think education is bad, it's just wasteful. And as you can tell, I do really well with tax dollar waste 🤣
Good luck to you. Understand not comfortable sharing
There's no putting the genie back in the bottle. I manage remote people across the country and contractors in SE Asia. All of this can be accomplished with Teams/Zoom (crap)/whatever and good management. Last part being the most important. Understand what you need to know to reach/exceed benchmarks, create controls, measure, manage, learn.
We stopped holding people accountable at times during COVID. That's what needs to go.
Because bureaucrats are 1) submitting the budget requests, and 2) Chevron allowed bureaucrats to make policy decisions which led to #1.
We're not going to agree, so let's just leave it at that.
Soccer. Been there all morning. Learn how to interact with other humans. Oh you’re a doctor. Forget it. Too late. Carry on with the zero personality board misfits
You had an opp to contribute in this thread but like other bottom feeder dipshits you can’t get past trump. Your typical dogshit contribution.
Apologize to the board
This is the correct response for 99% of the threads, but then we couldn’t have any fun yelling at each other 😁
Something to consider. When people say “Trust the science” or “Listen to your doctor”.
OS and whyisIUBB are two of the more irrational and unhinged people on this board.
Do your own research, get a second, third, fourth opinion. We do this in every other aspect of life.
Imagine if you were looking to purchase a car and someone told you:
“Don’t look into it, trust the car salesman, they’re the expert”
We can only lead by example with our informative posts and hope against hope they reconsider their positions
I'm guessing there is no one-size fits all answer here and it depends on the job responsibilities, particular organization, and the individual worker and his or her team.
If you are working at home, you have to do better than a turn around 3 with 5 seconds on the clock
Mainly started the program for the credential and to check the Masters box for job requirements. Focused on public and higher education stats/data/policy analysis and research. So that’s pretty much what I have done in higher ed for several years.
I’ve interviewed and applied for similar state and federal gov positions but never received an offer.
Disagree. Having kids that are in daycare 50 hours a week is crazy. If you want that, then get a cat.
People do, but at a general level surveys show the more people work over 40 hours the less happy they are.
And the American Heart Association shows the chances of a coronary event go up working a decade over 50 hours (even for people under 50 years).
Long work hours associated with increased risk of stroke
Working long hours for 10 years or more may be associated with stroke. People under age 50 had a higher risk of stroke when working long hours for a decade or more.
www.sciencedaily.com
I'm skeptical of polls like that.People do, but at a general level surveys show the more people work over 40 hours the less happy they are.
And the American Heart Association shows the chances of a coronary event go up working a decade over 50 hours (even for people under 50 years).
Long work hours associated with increased risk of stroke
Working long hours for 10 years or more may be associated with stroke. People under age 50 had a higher risk of stroke when working long hours for a decade or more.www.sciencedaily.com
Some people don't weight personal happiness as high as others. Others don't or can't take into account what a counterfactual situation would be like (less money, fewer luxuries, fewer trips, etc.). And some people would prefer to be richer, or more well respected and would give up life span to do so. That's not to say people in fact maximize their values--irrationality, emotional makeup, cultural biases, bad choices, imperfect information, etc. all get in the way.
And there are people who are happiest when miserable. They work the long hours so they can complain about the long hours and be the martyr. They can kill workplace morale
Heck, message boards are filled with people unhappy because more people aren't unhappy. They want policies to promote unhappiness. You know, working from home might make someone happy so we better eliminate it.
That's a bit unfair, I think.
The underlying rationale for ending WFH isn't a desire to make people less happy; it's based on an assumption that productivity decreases from WFH.
50 is excessive. Mine is in 28 hours. I had always been opposed but once divorced those fights go bye bye mostly. I have seen some benefits. We had soccer practice again this am. My kid, while largely feral, is not in the shy group holding dad’s leg like a large group do. He’s used to being independent and interacting with kids and adults.
I have always believed that if you put people in a position where they can cheat more than half will cheat and rationalize it away. There's no way I would let people work from home if I was running a company. I was reading an article a while back about how much more crowded golf courses are throughout the day since companies started letting their employees work remotely. You think there might be a correlation?
I don’t believe in work from home. I think there are too many distractions. Some can pull it off sure but I believe more work gets done at the office.I have always believed that if you put people in a position where they can cheat more than half will cheat and rationalize it away. There's no way I would let people work from home if I was running a company. I was reading an article a while back about how much more crowded golf courses are throughout the day since companies started letting their employees work remotely. You think there might be a correlation?
Golf has seen an overall uptick in popularity since COVID as it was one of the few activities you could partake in, even in some lockdown states.I have always believed that if you put people in a position where they can cheat more than half will cheat and rationalize it away. There's no way I would let people work from home if I was running a company. I was reading an article a while back about how much more crowded golf courses are throughout the day since companies started letting their employees work remotely. You think there might be a correlation?
Some places yes.
For Musk (one of his underlings from xAI wrote the OPM memo, having never worked in govt until last week).... The rationale is most certainly to make people miserable enough to quit. We know this since he wrote a WSJ Oped saying just that.
I have always believed that if you put people in a position where they can cheat more than half will cheat and rationalize it away. There's no way I would let people work from home if I was running a company. I was reading an article a while back about how much more crowded golf courses are throughout the day since companies started letting their employees work remotely. You think there might be a correlation?
What the hell does 'cheat' mean? Most work is results driven. KPIs, etc... If people achieve their objectives I don't give a shit if they are operating from the golf course every day.
We hire people for results, not punching a time clock like a cartoon character in a factory
Why do you think 83 percent of CEOs want people in the office? Why does musk. Why do insurance defense lawyers have a monitor tracking their time at the computer and not just get the benefit of the doubt. Who do contingency lawyers often have billable? Bc bosses want to know the time is being put in.
