Joke of a hire

[iubud]

He watched and learned as an assistant. He took a poor Drake program and built 20 win seasons and tournament championships. He turns WVU from terrible to being robbed of an NCAA bid.

He has never had the NIL he will have here. He has never had the draw of a school like IU and the B10. He has done well, but he now has the tools to raise his ceiling. What is his ceiling? We will find out in the next few years. One thing is he won't sit on his ass and we should have a positive recruiting process as opposed to what we have had back into the Archie era.

We need an energetic coach that works hard. We have one. I believe he can be successful here like he has been in other jobs.

 

[Fighter of the Nightman]

The SEC people would say they don't

We’ll find out soon. While the hype wasn’t quite as high, in 2021 everyone was saying how good the Big Ten was with two #1 seeds, two #2 seeds and a #4 seed … then the conference $hit the bed. SEC looks great, but who knows what March Madness will bring?

 

[ButHerEmails]

If you think what DD this year at WV is a success, then go find Woody: exact same results. Being mediocre at a big boy school isn't exciting or a job well done.

Mediocre is better than sucking, true. But, IU just fired mediocre. Would DD do better at WV next year? He's a question mark. If he wants my support and ass in a seat, then just f'ing win.

Well, first and only year at WV. This was Woody’s fourth at the same place. Only fair comparison would be if DD was at WV for four years.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

I'm betting some of you will be feeling stupid this time next year. You sound a lot like Louisville fans last year.

I hope so. I will happily eat crow. I'd rather be the one feeling stupid than you.

 

[rocketo]

Bunch of miserable SOBs in this thread

 

[bailey777]

Bunch of miserable SOBs in this thread

I certainly think he will be better than woodson at least he will work hard and has coached college before. Now can he get us to the elite 8 I have no idea

 

[TDHoosier]

Google Cig and DD and tell me the difference. IU football is not the same as WV basketball: tell me which coach actually won big.

Dolson fired 19-13, 10-10 in the Big Ten and hired 19-13, 10-10 in a watered down Big 12. Woody arguably had a better year than DD!

Do you even watch basketball? The Big 12 is better than the Big 10 and he did that without his best player. WV won 9 games last year!

 

[bailey777]

Do you even watch basketball? The Big 12 is better than the Big 10 and he did that without his best player. WV won 9 games last year!

They only thing I know is this. If IU was willing to hire a guy like Beard he likely would have won big at IU but they are not willing to risk a hire like that. So they hire a guy like this since they were never getting stevens ever. He may work or may not but at least he has college experience unlike woodson the most baffling hire ever.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

I’m sure Cignetti had his critics before IU fans saw what he could do on the field.

We shall see next year. DeVries will have his All-American son and $7M+ to spend in the portal (CBS reports), so he’s got the resources to turn this around in year one.

90% of this board didn’t know who Cignetti was and couldn’t locate James Madison on a map. They also wrote him off saying he’d never win with his JMU transfers.
Then, they realized that Dolson actually identified a guy that had a system and a culture that worked.
I’ll trust Dolson identified the same qualities here.
Now, some folks are upset because they learned that their Brad Stevens and Dusty May blow-up dolls came with a no-return policy and they’re in a dilemma about whether to keep them inflated or put them in storage. If Dusty May wanted to be here, he wouldn’t have signed his extension. He’s chose Michigan over IU. Brad Stevens has been out of coaching for a decade and is controlled by his family.
This is a 2-way street. The coach has to want to be here. Fans don’t want to believe it but there are good coaches that want no part of IU. We all love IU so this seems unconscionable to us but believe it not, they aren’t lining up around the block to get in here.

 

[sparkeyreturns]

.713 career winning % probably could have done worse and hired a washed up NBA coach 🤷🏼‍♂️

Never understood these types of post. Hey, we didn't hire someone great but someone who wasn't terrible. So be happy. Just wild.

 

[jopajackson]

Never understood these types of post. Hey, we didn't hire someone great but someone who wasn't terrible. So be happy. Just wild.

Because they don't want the job.....

 

[sparkeyreturns]

90% of this board didn’t know who Cignetti was and couldn’t locate James Madison on a map. They also wrote him off saying he’d never win with his JMU transfers.
Then, they realized that Dolson actually identified a guy that had a system and a culture that worked.
I’ll trust Dolson identified the same qualities here.
Now, some folks are upset because they learned that their Brad Stevens and Dusty May blow-up dolls came with a no-return policy and they’re in a dilemma about whether to keep them inflated or put them in storage. If Dusty May wanted to be here, he wouldn’t have signed his extension. He’s chose Michigan over IU. Brad Stevens has been out of coaching for a decade and is controlled by his family.
This is a 2-way street. The coach has to want to be here. Fans don’t want to believe it but there are good coaches that want no part of IU. We all love IU so this seems unconscionable to us but believe it not, they aren’t lining up around the block to get in here.

What board? The bball board or football board? Because we were talking about Cignetti. I know this because I was talking about Cignetti. Gameday was there about two months before we hired Cignetti. I know you post on the football board yet do you follow college football?

 

[uncleter]

I got news for you…he isn’t winning “big” next year. He has to put an entire new team together.

RE: Pat Kelsey, Mark Pope, Dusty May

 

[bsmitty08]

Never understood these types of post. Hey, we didn't hire someone great but someone who wasn't terrible. So be happy. Just wild.

His winning % is really good

 

[bsmitty08]

RE: Pat Kelsey, Mark Pope, Dusty May

Ok, if that’s winning “big” then yes he can attain that level.

 

[UTFO]

It's funny how these things play out. We heralded Crean and Miller - nearly 100% approval here of those hires...and we all saw how that worked out. Woody? Well, that was an anomaly and obviously he had detractors from day 1, rightfully so.

Now we have a guy that is as ho hum of hire as possible...might he be the chosen one?

I'm at peace w the hire - still a little chafed about May - but time to get on board w fingers crossed, I suppose.

He likes small ball. He isn't playing 2 bigs at a time like Woody. We all know about the pack line D. That tells me he wants kids to can get out on shooters, something IU has been terrible at for 10 years, and also kids who are teachable.

I have no doubt he was not our 1st or 2nd choice, and I think he knows that. But it may just work out.

 

[IUfan1957]

Just shows Cignetti was a fluke hire.

Couldn't disagree more. Let's review these remarks a year from now. Go Hoosiers!

 

[BA47591]

Seems like a likeable fella, an ok coach and the type of hire that will be good enough to get a 2nd contract. That's exciting.

 

[bailey777]

Seems like a likeable fella, an ok coach and the type of hire that will be good enough to get a 2nd contract. That's exciting.

He is going to be given a ton of nil money so he needs to win and win fast

 

[Harry Hondo]

Google Cig and DD and tell me the difference. IU football is not the same as WV basketball: tell me which coach actually won big.

Dolson fired 19-13, 10-10 in the Big Ten and hired 19-13, 10-10 in a watered down Big 12. Woody arguably had a better year than DD!

WVU was predicted to be last in the B12 and IU was predicted by many to be top 3 or win it. Plus, DeVries had his talented son for only half the season and not much talent beyond him. Woody had a $5M roster.

Also, remember the Battle for Atlantis in November? WVU beat Gonzaga and took Louisville to OT. IU lost to Gonzaga and was curb stomped by Louisville. DeVries took a completely new roster there in his first year and competed, Woody took a roster filled with talent and experience and stunk. Shame on you for comparing the two.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

WVU was predicted to be last in the B12 and IU was predicted by many to be top 3 or win it. Plus, DeVries had his talented son for only half the season and not much talent beyond him. Woody had a $5M roster.

Also, remember the Battle for Atlantis in November? WVU beat Gonzaga and took Louisville to OT. IU lost to Gonzaga and was curb stomped by Louisville. DeVries took a completely new roster there in his first year and competed, Woody took a roster filled with talent and experience and stunk. Shame on you for comparing the two.

Just win. The WV record this year is nothing to get excited about.

 

[Spartans9312]

That is who WVU did better than in conference.

No matter how this turns out one thing remains the same….you are an idiot.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

No matter how this turns out one thing remains the same….you are an idiot.

I know you are, but what am I?

 

[Victorbmyboy]

You're already making excuses. Not easy to say WV and IU had the exact same record this year. I've been waiting for literally decades at this point for consistently good basketball. At best, DD is a question mark. He can win big and shut everybody up. He's got 2 years. If he's worth a damn, he'll do what Dusty May and Cignetti did this year next year.

Took him 1 year to have a woody record but took woody 4 years to have that record with a top 10 roster. We can take this spin class everyday if y’all want.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Call me crazy, but I'd rather hire a coach that has won and accomplished something at a big boy school

So did UK and Louisville fans. We see how that turned out. Let the man cook for a bit.

 

[Mobes]

lol probably

Let's see how they do in the tournament. SEC football was supposed to be God's favorite brand of college football, and they weren't great in the bowls.

 

[hookyIU1990]

I know you are, but what am I?

You're a guy who didn't understand why they announced the hire now instead of waiting a month for the tournament to be over, even though the portal would have been open the entire time.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

Took him 1 year to have a woody record but took woody 4 years to have that record with a top 10 roster. We can take this spin class everyday if y’all want.

I'll give him a chance: not my choice 1-5, and I'm not alone. I'm not excited about Woody results or what he did at WV: not a good argument. I also hope this hire isn't more of the same last 30 years.

 

[bailey777]

I'll give him a chance: not my choice 1-5, and I'm not alone. I'm not excited about Woody results or what he did at WV: not a good argument.

Our first choice is at Michigan thanks to Quinn and several other guys we may have been able to get IU will not touch. So really this was not all that surprising. The only good thing for sure is it was not Bronwell.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

I'll give him a chance: not my choice 1-5, and I'm not alone. I'm not excited about Woody results or what he did at WV: not a good argument.

You missed on this one. Tell me what the difference is in the Pat Kelsey and Mark Pope hires this last year vs this hire? No sitting P4 or P5 coach will leave. Especially if they have even mediocre to decent resources. Looks to me IU still has some swag getting him to move in one year.

 

[ams66]

You missed on this one. Tell me what the difference is in the Pat Kelsey and Mark Pope hires this last year vs this hire? No sitting P4 or P5 coach will leave. Especially if they have even mediocre to decent resources. Looks to me IU still has some swag getting him to move in one year.

We almost certainly could have gotten Beard or Wade. You are likely right about the others.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

We almost certainly could have gotten Beard or Wade. You are likely right about the others.

If they didn’t have baggage no way. Beard would still be at Texas and Wade would be at LSU.

 

[wawasee]

IU's coach took Drake to three NCAA tourneys in five years. Before he showed up they made it once in 47 years. At West Virginia he had one returning player. He inherited a nine win team. He was plus ten in one season. His top player his son was injured in December. He had another top player out for most of the year. He also loves to recruit Indiana. Novel idea.. I'm gonna give him a chance. I don't like to sit around and bitch and moan.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

You missed on this one. Tell me what the difference is in the Pat Kelsey and Mark Pope hires this last year vs this hire? No sitting P4 or P5 coach will leave. Especially if they have even mediocre to decent resources. Looks to me IU still has some swag getting him to move in one year.

I missed? What have I missed by not being super excited about the hire? I hope he does well, but I'm certainly skeptical. He hasn't coached one game at IU yet.

 

[raar2]

maybe it's your fault.

We learned from Few's comment several years back. Bloomington is too much drama and who needs that headache for a couple of mil more?

Bob Knight made IU Basketball an arrogant powerhouse. Now that all hints of Knight are gone, we're nothing but arrogant.

If the rumors are correct, Dolson couldn't get the big names every Hoosier lusts over. What that tells us it Few's words are still correct, IU rep is worse then KY's for being uncoachable.

We got a coach without having to search HS and AAU resume's. I look forward to seeing what develops.

 

[ButHerEmails]

I'll give him a chance: not my choice 1-5, and I'm not alone. I'm not excited about Woody results or what he did at WV: not a good argument. I also hope this hire isn't more of the same last 30 years.

Who knows how DD will turn out. I think you’re a little too focused on his record during his first and only season at WVU. I know it’s all we have, but still. Was he supposed to roll into perennial basketball powerhouse WVU and win the Big 12 in his first season? Did WV even win 10 games last year?

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

Who knows how DD will turn out. I think you’re a little too focused on his record during his first and only season at WVU. I know it’s all we have, but still. Was he supposed to roll into perennial basketball powerhouse WVU and win the Big 12 in his first season? Did WV even win 10 games last year?

Ask Dusty May and Cig: winners win. That is why he's a question mark.

 

[CC Mac]

Not my favorite but why compare him to Archie Miller?

There is absolutely no comparison between the two,personality wise,or coaching style wise.

 

[Spartans9312]

I'll give him a chance: not my choice 1-5, and I'm not alone. I'm not excited about Woody results or what he did at WV: not a good argument. I also hope this hire isn't more of the same last 30 years.

Who did we not offer that you think would have taken the job and would have made you happy?

 

[kmathum]

Who did we not offer that you think would have taken the job and would have made you happy?

McCollum?