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JHS Will Start at the 2

Starting 5 is clearly:

XJ
JHS
Kopp
Race
TJD
You are probably right, but I hope Bates and Geronimo get a lot of play as well. When Geronimo was in the game he made a difference. His athleticism is needed and Bates defense improved tremendously at the end of the year. Kopp is good, but he isn't the difference maker that either of those two can be defensively.
 
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Given the circumstances, Trey's "fine" performance was acceptable. However, if Woodson foolishly continues to utilize an NBA substitution pattern, it would be a mistake to slide Trey over to the 1 when XJ and Fino need a breather. With JG playing minutes at the 3, we don't need to compound the issue with a second reserve player playing a new position in the same lineup.
if there is ever a time when both are healthy and not suspended , or a blow out game one will be on the floor or woodsnod is dumberder than lucy
 
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you are full of sh!t. The questions have been asked. X needs a breather and the point has the least depth. This is why AL has been working on the point per woody.
judging by the 6 minute scrimmage (which I know is not right) X was back to his old habits... making a couple of bad decisions... JH-S may take over at point later in the year if it continues...
 
JHS will start at the 1
X will start at the 2
Kopp, Galloway, Banks, Geronimo at the 3
Race or Reneau at the 4
Trayce at the 5
2 most important team players?
Trayce & Jalen Hood Schifino
The two 5*
 
I swear, if Isiah had “too many” turnovers in the eyes of the critics around here, they’ve wanted him relegated to the Bench. Gallo is not a PG, but was pressed into action and if nothing else, gained experience in case he’s forced into a similar situation in the future.
 
judging by the 6 minute scrimmage (which I know is not right) X was back to his old habits... making a couple of bad decisions... JH-S may take over at point later in the year if it continues...
With X it’s about attitude.


Woodson mentioned that he was “growing up”, and “came in with a totally different attitude “ this year, which was “nice to see”.

Taking what he said literally his attitude is totally different, and IMO (if I am reading between the lines), last season he did not come in with the type of attitude he wanted to see. I’m not his coach so I don’t know what it was that needed to change to make the staff happy, but Glad they have been working with him.
 
With X it’s about attitude.


Woodson mentioned that he was “growing up”, and “came in with a totally different attitude “ this year, which was “nice to see”.

Taking what he said literally his attitude is totally different, and IMO (if I am reading between the lines), last season he did not come in with the type of attitude he wanted to see. I’m not his coach so I don’t know what it was that needed to change to make the staff happy, but Glad they have been working with him.
Woodson probably likes X more than almost all of his player. Woodson has said a million times PG is the most important position for him, he will coach it the hardest, and needs that player to be the head of the snake. He chose X. He inherited over half the team. He picked his PG
 
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Woodson probably likes X more than almost all of his player. Woodson has said a million times PG is the most important position for him, he will coach it the hardest, and needs that player to be the head of the snake. He chose X. He inherited over half the team. He picked his PG

Sort of. Based on old interviews, I think X's decision (though maybe not commitment) to come to IU came during the previous regime due to his relationship with Kenya. But you're right, Woody could have gone in a different direction.
 
Sort of. Based on old interviews, I think X's decision (though maybe not commitment) to come to IU came during the previous regime due to his relationship with Kenya. But you're right, Woody could have gone in a different direction.
For sure, but x and Woodson clicked and he is not coming here unless Woodson wanted him.
 
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You are probably right, but I hope Bates and Geronimo get a lot of play as well. When Geronimo was in the game he made a difference. His athleticism is needed and Bates defense improved tremendously at the end of the year. Kopp is good, but he isn't the difference maker that either of those two can be defensively.
MK can be a difference maker if he is hitting treys. And in order to do that our team needs to be better at kick out and skip passes than we were last year.
 
You are probably right, but I hope Bates and Geronimo get a lot of play as well. When Geronimo was in the game he made a difference. His athleticism is needed and Bates defense improved tremendously at the end of the year. Kopp is good, but he isn't the difference maker that either of those two can be defensively.
Ironically, Kopp gets PT specifically because of his defense according to CMW, while it's always been presumed that Geronimo doesn't, because of his defensive lapses! I think you're projecting based on JG's athleticism, but so far he's not shown the desire or commitment to be really good defensively.
 
Ironically, Kopp gets PT specifically because of his defense according to CMW, while it's always been presumed that Geronimo doesn't, because of his defensive lapses! I think you're projecting based on JG's athleticism, but so far he's not shown the desire or commitment to be really good defensively.
It’s easy to mask mistakes with athleticism. Problem is guys know how to use that to their advantage against you. JG had/has work to do in the discipline department and Ya said it. Hope he has and I’m hoping to see just that. Kopp is disciplined on the defensive end. Woody wants mistake free ball. X has/had work to do in that department too.
 
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I know he is a 5-star by the ratings, but what evidence do you have that he is the best leader on the team?

Was Khristian Lander the best leader on the team last year, he was a 5-star? What about Yogi as an underclassman?

Until we see it on and off the floor, it's too early to say.
Yogi came in and started on a loaded team as a freshman. Lander reclassified and was not ready to play “up” a year sooner; he presumed 5* was based on his projected class. If the consensus of the NBA scouts is that JHS is a stud, I think that’s enough evidence for most.
 
Yogi came in and started on a loaded team as a freshman. Lander reclassified and was not ready to play “up” a year sooner; he presumed 5* was based on his projected class. If the consensus of the NBA scouts is that JHS is a stud, I think that’s enough evidence for most.
Only thing (I see) that kept out of the top 10 is his shooting and it’s really not horrible.
 
Yogi came in and started on a loaded team as a freshman. Lander reclassified and was not ready to play “up” a year sooner; he presumed 5* was based on his projected class. If the consensus of the NBA scouts is that JHS is a stud, I think that’s enough evidence for most.
I don't think he's questioning whether he's a good player or not, but the assertion that he's the best natural leader, which also had me questioning that for a player who's not played a single game for us. I assume it's based on his reputation from Montverde. I don't doubt he is, but I also think it's reasonable to question that for a freshman who hasn't played a minute for us. Think it's a leap, but probably a reasonable one. Gotta be tough for a kid coming in to what's supposed to be a good team with a good established PG and leaders, in how you blend and become a leader as a freshmen.
 
In some ways Hood-Shifino is a bit like Damon Bailey coming in as a freshman. Bailey was a 2 who could play 1 or 3. JHS is a 1 who can likely play off the ball. Versatile guard.
 
I know he is a 5-star by the ratings, but what evidence do you have that he is the best leader on the team?

Was Khristian Lander the best leader on the team last year, he was a 5-star? What about Yogi as an underclassman?

Until we see it on and off the floor, it's too early to say.

I was responding as if I was the original poster you were responding to.

He's always talking up the new, shiny thing. Look up his history.
 
Yogi came in and started on a loaded team as a freshman. Lander reclassified and was not ready to play “up” a year sooner; he presumed 5* was based on his projected class. If the consensus of the NBA scouts is that JHS is a stud, I think that’s enough evidence for most.

Yes, Yogi started...but he was not the best leader on the 2013 Team. Not by a mile. Best leader and stud are not necessarily the same thing. I'm not doubting Fino's potential abilities or leadership, it's just too early to say.
 
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Yes, Yogi started...but he was not the best leader on the 2013 Team. Not by a mile. Best leader and stud are not necessarily the same thing. I'm not doubting Fino's potential abilities or leadership, it's just too early to say.
I watched JHS play multiple times in person when Montverde won Back-to-Back HS National Championships. JHS may have been the most important player on the Montverde team. JHS was not not the leading scorer, not the leading rebounder, but he was unquestionably the Floor Leader. Both in the half court and in the open court. Also he played very hard on Defense. I watched JHS shut down MSU’s highly regarded PG Fears. Which prompted the PU guy sitting next to me to admit that JHS was in his grill the whole game, and shut everything down at the point of attack. JHS aggressive on ball defense led to turnovers, fast breaks and general low percentage shot attempts by the opposition. Defensively JHS was relentless and outstanding. On offense he directed traffic, attacked the D with a purpose and under complete control. Making the right pass and quickly and decisively reacting to what the Defense gave him. JHS was very impressive as a big 6’6” HS PG playing at the highest level of HS prep school competing for a HS National Championship.
 
That was true last season.
This season IU has a few more weapons.

No.

X will be the point. It's pretty obvious that Woody trusts him to run the team. JHS will be important, but he's not going to be what makes this team go.

You always take the freshman and inflate what they are worth. You inflated Lander. You said Leal and Galloway should have started their freshman year, before they even enrolled.

Everytime a new season rolls around, the freshman come on and you anoint them as the best we have without them playing a game. It's not fair to them, frankly.
 
No.

X will be the point. It's pretty obvious that Woody trusts him to run the team. JHS will be important, but he's not going to be what makes this team go.

You always take the freshman and inflate what they are worth. You inflated Lander. You said Leal and Galloway should have started their freshman year, before they even enrolled.

Everytime a new season rolls around, the freshman come on and you anoint them as the best we have without them playing a game. It's not fair to them, frankly.
from what I observed the other night(small sample) ... better decision making than X.
 
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from what I observed the other night(small sample) ... better decision making than X.
I think it's quite likely that JHS will be the PG and X the 2, although maybe they won't start that way. But, I think XJ is a natural scorer who has to adapt his game to PG and sometimest that leads to bad decisions. We might be better off with XJ in his natural aggressive scoring role... just my opinion.
 
I think it's quite likely that JHS will be the PG and X the 2, although maybe they won't start that way. But, I think XJ is a natural scorer who has to adapt his game to PG and sometimest that leads to bad decisions. We might be better off with XJ in his natural aggressive scoring role... just my opinion.
I doubt it. Scoring point guards are a commodity today. Both will facilitate. Think of 2 point guards. Woody likes combo guys so they can play multiple spots. He will expect both to guard all 3 spots at times.
 
By quite likely would you be willing to bet? Your House? My life savings? What you wanna wager?
Just a suspicion I have. But watching JHS, he's a natural facilitator who looks to control the offense and intuitively understands and wants to get folks the ball where they need it. I love XJ, but I think he's a natural scorer first and has to work a little harder to run an offense. We'll see, but I suspect it would simplify the game to do that. Not gonna bet on a lark about a player who's never played a second for us, and I fully expect we'll start the year with XJ at PG, but I think it's possible we won't end it that way. And if my suspicion is correct, we'll be a better team for it.
 
Wut? He doesn't have any moves ... evidenced by his 33% on 2 pt jumpers.
Don't know if you're kidding, but he has natural scoring instincts and my guess is running an offense doesn't come as naturally to him. I'm showing he shot 41% overall and 37% on 3s, so that would mean his 2 pt % would be a point or two higher than the 41%. I think it might simplify the game for him to not have to focus on running the offense when we seem to now have a natural PG on the team. Plus, he'd benefit from some of those passes and setups by JHS. Logic would say that CMW will have his 5th year PG run the team, but with what I've seen of JHS and all the praise being heaped on him, having them both in their "natural" positions also makes sense to me. Either way, I think we'll be greatly improved. I thought we were on the cusp of being really good last year, and adding these freshmen will hopefully push us over the edge. Beat the Heels!
 
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I think it's quite likely that JHS will be the PG and X the 2, although maybe they won't start that way. But, I think XJ is a natural scorer who has to adapt his game to PG and sometimest that leads to bad decisions. We might be better off with XJ in his natural aggressive scoring role... just my opinion.
I’m not sure it’s going to be that one is a PG and the other a 2. They may share duties, and having two primary ball handlers capable of running an offense affords our staff some flexibility.
 
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I’m not sure it’s going to be that one is a PG and the other a 2. They may share duties, and having two primary ball handlers capable of running an offense affords our staff some flexibility.
yeah, nothing but a blessing to have more than 1 capable PG. I just think JHS might be more of a "natural" at that position and XJ has more of a scorer's mentality. Can't wait to see this team take the floor!
 
Don't know if you're kidding, but he has natural scoring instincts and my guess is running an offense doesn't come as naturally to him. I'm showing he shot 41% overall and 37% on 3s, so that would mean his 2 pt % would be a point or two higher than the 41%. I think it might simplify the game for him to not have to focus on running the offense when we seem to now have a natural PG on the team. Plus, he'd benefit from some of those passes and setups by JHS. Logic would say that CMW will have his 5th year PG run the team, but with what I've seen of JHS and all the praise being heaped on him, having them both in their "natural" positions also makes sense to me. Either way, I think we'll be greatly improved. I thought we were on the cusp of being really good last year, and adding these freshmen will hopefully push us over the edge. Beat the Heels!
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