Kid played very well in the MIC - one of he toughest basketball conferences in the nation at the HS level.
He may not be ready to contribute heavily next year, but imagine him as a junior? Could be worth the chance.
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He may not be ready to contribute heavily next year, but imagine him as a junior? Could be worth the chance.
I'm hoping this means that several posters will be part of a "Reduction In Force".
Even if the kid is only a 3 pt specialist, that's fine. I dont expect him to become Victor Oladipo.
247 has him ranked as the 25th best player in Indiana for 2019 and 439th in the nation. I smell a diamond in the ruff.
Where were Ryan Cline and Eiffert ranked?
Eiffert wasn't even the best player on his FW Dwenger team.
A better comparison would be with Armaan Franklin's AAU performance...
Windham: 44.3% FG, 95% FT, 2.1RB, 1.3APG, .9TOV, .1 BL, 8.5PPG
Franklin: 35.1% FG, 75% FT, 3.7RB, 1.2APG, 1.5TOV, .4BL, 8.7PPG
All of these stats have to be taken with a grain of salt given the small sample sizes, nature of AAU, etc., but based on his performance in a very difficulty conference, etc., I think it would be safe to give him an offer.
It makes me wonder more about Franklin than it convinces me about Windham. If you know, what were Newman's AAU #s (the guy going to Purdue)? Had we gotten Newman, we probably wouldn't have offered Franklin, as Newman has the reputation of being the better shooter. Hope that doesn't turn into another Anderson/Henry situation.
The guy plays on a high profile HS basketball team, and on a high profile AAU team. Don't you wonder why, with so much exposure, he has had no offers at the Xavier/Cincy/Purdue/Nebraska/Penn St level?
Now, I understand there's some group-think involved in recruiting, but it does make you question what we're doing.
Cline was ranked 159th in the country. That is almost 300 spots higher.
Eifert barely played the first two years so if we are looking for a guy to sit on the bench maybe we found one.
So......found at least some of Newman's AAU #s---17.4 ppg/4.7 rpg, 42% on 3s v. 9.9/4.3, with 25.5% on 3s for Franklin.
Now, I understand that Franklin hit a much higher % on 3s this HS season---something like 35-36%.......still, I have a bad feeling about those two going forward.
I thought we offered Franklin and then Newman went with the pu offer (could very well be an incorrect recollection but that's how I remember it)...
I like Newmans game and think they did get a good one there but you can't expect to get all of them all the time...
Looks to me like we went with the greater strength and athleticism in Franklin vs pure shooter in Newman...
We may be trying to rectify that a bit by bringing in a pure shooter in Windham...
That's accurate.
And to be fair, the coaches thought they'd have Hunter, so the requirement for a pure shooter might not have been as great......but Newman is higher rated and apparently the better shooter. I'm not as willing to give CAM the benefit of the doubt as I was then. We shall see.
IU had offers out to both Franklin and Newman. It was thought at the time that they might land one or the other but not both. Franklin committed before Newman which pretty much ensured Newman wouldn't end up in Bloomington.
At the time, from what I remember, is that they were viewed as pretty close in terms of talent and potential with Franklin being bigger, stronger, and more athletic while Newman was the better shooter. I'm not sure what the thoughts are regarding them after their senior seasons.
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Well.....I watched that you tube video. Yikes. That was very discouraging. He looked a lot better in the Cathedral game than that. He does not appear to be a high D1 player, period.
I've always viewed you as a troll. I'm about ready to come over to your side. I'm very concerned about this staff.
I got better things to do than troll. Its called being concerned and frusturated with the direction of the program. There arent many positives right now and there are just as many questions as two years ago. I cant pump kool aid when there isnt any to pump right now. Getting brooks would have been a big positive but not to be.
There was a bit of optimism on this board when Grant Gelon was going to be the three point savior. And before him Max Hoetzel. And then of course there was Tim Priller. All were going to spread the floor and create room for Indiana’s inside game
Do not forget Fitzner some people thought was was going to be a starter. Alot of people pump up anybody we sign simply because they are coming to Indiana. Everyone we get is going to be the next great player. Heck if we get this guy by the time August rolls around people will have him penciled into the starting lineup. Bank it.
Same way we did with Grant Galon??? You think there may be a reason no other Power 5 schools are interested??
IU is likely checking on lots of players, Galon was picked up by a different coach. Doesn't appear to be this coach's MO.
In the championship game Windham had 22 points, 13-14 from the freethrow line. 1-7 three pointers. 4 turnovers. I watched him a few times, he is a better shooter than he showed in the championship game.
Depending on how many kids we bring in he might be a good pickup for down the road to develop in year 3 or 4. Not really a reach, just not a game changer.
In the championship game Windham had 22 points, 13-14 from the freethrow line. 1-7 three pointers. 4 turnovers. I watched him a few times, he is a better shooter than he showed in the championship game.
Depending on how many kids we bring in he might be a good pickup for down the road to develop in year 3 or 4. Not really a reach, just not a game changer.
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Here is the thing that nobody is mentioning or I guess understands... it does not have to be the transfer or this kid scenario. It could be both. I have not seen anywhere that he has been "offered" by Indiana. The coaches could be thinking that they could possible steal an Indiana kid w/o offering him a scholarship. Preferred walk-ons are recruited too. They just do not take from the allotment. Would anyone have a problem with having a kid on the roster that is not taking a scholarship and may one day provide 10-20 minutes with some 3pt shooting?
Like I said some people think everyone we get is a going to be great. The list is a long one. I hope we get grad transfers
I was there...He balls! Only reason BD stayed in the game and at the end hit every FT to draw it close. He has a little tude too. Got a Carmel player furious with batting at his arms before Karsten Windlan from Carmel stripped him drew a foul and got the entire Carmel side jacked! Anyways 24 was a force all night. Do I think he could roll in and start for IU? No. But he could be developed and has a big body for a high school kid.
If Archie was smart he would start recruiting Suter from Carmel now. That kid will be something special!
I watched the tape and thought he was horrible. Forced a lot of shots, had more than a few turnovers, and showed little interest in rebounding. "Has a big body for a high school kid"? What does that mean?. He looked very skinny. Not in the least any type of physical player offensively or defensively. Doesn't take the ball to the basket. Saw no particular passing ability. No special court awareness.
He did perform better in another televised game v. Cathedral, but he didn't look like a high D1 prospect there either. He also doesn't look to be 6'5".....he looks more like 6'3"......some of that may be because he's so slim.
The guy can shoot FTs. His highest and best use as a D1 player would be to be on the court in the last 2 minutes of games, when we have a lead. Is it worth a 'ship to have a designated shooter?
I agree with some of what you said, but when you watch an actual game it will look different that the normal highlite reel we see on youtube. He doesn't look to rebound, and he is slim, and would agree he is about 6-4. With that said, he is better than what you made him out to be. He makes contested shots. He isn't a difference maker, but he would be a good shooter for us year 3 and 4.
I would be interested in Windham after we get Brunk, a transfer shooter and possible backup pg. I don't know that we have that much turnover, or if we can find a grad transfer that can qualify at IU, they aren't making it easy. Daniel Utomi would be nice, but would he qualify even if he is interested in IU?
I would be interested in Windham after we get Brunk, a transfer shooter and possible backup pg. I don't know that we have that much turnover, or if we can find a grad transfer that can qualify at IU, they aren't making it easy. Daniel Utomi would be nice, but would he qualify even if he is interested in IU?
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Hey what is up with the negativity? This kid could be a flat out stud and the next Victor. Sign him up now as is yesterday.
I agree. It's crazy to recruit a shooter with no decent offers and really no other skills that might not play until year 3. Don't we already have one of those guys in Damezi?
Did you look at the tape from the championship game? If so, I'd like you're honest opinion, rather than your troll response.
These schools already have transfer commitments: Washington; GT; Providence; USC; DePaul; SMU; S. Johns; Nevada; Wisconsin; Xavier; UCF.........We need to be as active this year as anyone.
Well, that's an interesting question. It helps sometimes to have 5 shooters on the floor in the last minute.
All I can say is if you like DG's shot selection, you'll love this guy. He's like DG without any rebounding or on ball D skills.
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