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IU and Purdue can hear opportunity knocking and

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both should reap some benefits from the pushback from the NFL overall as well as the Colt’s decline and the possibility of Luck’s career being severely compromised by injury. As a former NFL front office veteran I can tell you I am not along among former staff and players who think the players have elected to commit professional suicide with the approval of the Commissioner and the owners. No matter what your business, alienating 40-50% of your customer base is no way to insure continued financial viability. Purdue experienced the largest attendance increase in the nation this year in both percentage and per game average. IU has seen increases too. The non affiliated football fans of the Indianapolis ADI are restless and a good marketing campaign could persuade some of them to cancel the Colts’ season tickets and buy college football tickets. Stay tuned to see if potential opportunity translates into actual increases in ST sales.
 
both should reap some benefits from the pushback from the NFL overall as well as the Colt’s decline and the possibility of Luck’s career being severely compromised by injury. As a former NFL front office veteran I can tell you I am not along among former staff and players who think the players have elected to commit professional suicide with the approval of the Commissioner and the owners. No matter what your business, alienating 40-50% of your customer base is no way to insure continued financial viability. Purdue experienced the largest attendance increase in the nation this year in both percentage and per game average. IU has seen increases too. The non affiliated football fans of the Indianapolis ADI are restless and a good marketing campaign could persuade some of them to cancel the Colts’ season tickets and buy college football tickets. Stay tuned to see if potential opportunity translates into actual increases in ST sales.
It is interesting to note that both Indiana and Purdue have had the largest attendance increase in the country over the course of the past few years. You’re right, it’s a good thing.
 
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both should reap some benefits from the pushback from the NFL overall as well as the Colt’s decline and the possibility of Luck’s career being severely compromised by injury. As a former NFL front office veteran I can tell you I am not along among former staff and players who think the players have elected to commit professional suicide with the approval of the Commissioner and the owners. No matter what your business, alienating 40-50% of your customer base is no way to insure continued financial viability. Purdue experienced the largest attendance increase in the nation this year in both percentage and per game average. IU has seen increases too. The non affiliated football fans of the Indianapolis ADI are restless and a good marketing campaign could persuade some of them to cancel the Colts’ season tickets and buy college football tickets. Stay tuned to see if potential opportunity translates into actual increases in ST sales.
think Irsay's gonna need to make a "big head coaching hire" in the off-season if he can pull it off
 
It is interesting to note that both Indiana and Purdue have had the largest attendance increase in the country over the course of the past few years. You’re right, it’s a good thing.
think Irsay's gonna need to make a "big head coaching hire" in the off-season if he can pull it off

What was the link between Irsay and successful football? Bill Polian. When have they been relevant without him?
 
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to me releasing Polian was an ill-advised but survivable move; replacing Polian with Grigson was not

Getting rid of a GM who had taken six teams to a Super Bowl in an era when other than the Patriots such performance would be highly envied seems to be more than ill advised. Only time will determine if it was survivable.
 
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Getting rid of a GM who had taken six teams to a Super Bowl in an era when other than the Patriots such performance would be highly envied seems to be more than ill advised. Only time will determine if it was survivable.
as I implied above, I would've preferred that Irsay not release Polian, but he was not the only proven GM out there at the time.

Hiring Grigson, on the other hand, was a gold-plated disaster (unless one believes it was actually Irsay and/or Pagano overruling Grigson on draft choices and free agent signings)
 
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both should reap some benefits from the pushback from the NFL overall as well as the Colt’s decline and the possibility of Luck’s career being severely compromised by injury. As a former NFL front office veteran I can tell you I am not along among former staff and players who think the players have elected to commit professional suicide with the approval of the Commissioner and the owners. No matter what your business, alienating 40-50% of your customer base is no way to insure continued financial viability. Purdue experienced the largest attendance increase in the nation this year in both percentage and per game average. IU has seen increases too. The non affiliated football fans of the Indianapolis ADI are restless and a good marketing campaign could persuade some of them to cancel the Colts’ season tickets and buy college football tickets. Stay tuned to see if potential opportunity translates into actual increases in ST sales.
I can honestly say that nobody I know wants to see athletes parade around and make political statements on Sundays. F That! Several of my friends and neighbors have dumped tickets, not gone to games, and quit watching. For the first time in 40 plus years I quit caring and did not watch one game this year. Also I really don't miss it.
 
as I implied above, I would've preferred that Irsay not release Polian, but he was not the only proven GM out there at the time.

Hiring Grigson, on the other hand, was a gold-plated disaster (unless one believes it was actually Irsay and/or Pagano overruling Grigson on draft choices and free agent signings)
He fired Chris Polian along with his dad...
 
He fired Chris Polian along with his dad...
Chris was not Bill so no issues with that one and the main issue was a poor replacement in Grigson. Ballard seems to be a more serious guy and this off season with high pick and 3rd most cap space could be huge swing back.

But let’s also remember, Peyton Manning sure helped Polina look good too, and Luck being healthy can (and has) do the same. Talent has an amazing way of making coaches and GMs look good.
 
I’d love to see IU/PU do a combined marketing plan for football fans that have been alienated by the protests.... I think they could generate some sales simply based on principle. Fill the stadiums at IU and Purdue each game sellouts..... that would be interesting.....working together to take advantage of a situation....

Fred could have his fire works shows and big flag ceremony..... Purdue could.....well....

I bet you end up with a certain percentage that stay as season ticket holders.
 
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both should reap some benefits from the pushback from the NFL overall as well as the Colt’s decline and the possibility of Luck’s career being severely compromised by injury. As a former NFL front office veteran I can tell you I am not along among former staff and players who think the players have elected to commit professional suicide with the approval of the Commissioner and the owners. No matter what your business, alienating 40-50% of your customer base is no way to insure continued financial viability. Purdue experienced the largest attendance increase in the nation this year in both percentage and per game average. IU has seen increases too. The non affiliated football fans of the Indianapolis ADI are restless and a good marketing campaign could persuade some of them to cancel the Colts’ season tickets and buy college football tickets. Stay tuned to see if potential opportunity translates into actual increases in ST sales.

If you think it is less than 50% you are believing the hype..... kneel away please. I think IU/PU will benefit but could benefit more if they could bring themselves to capitalize on it. But I don’t see that happening. Maybe Purdue can but IU would never market to that....
 
If you think it is less than 50% you are believing the hype..... kneel away please. I think IU/PU will benefit but could benefit more if they could bring themselves to capitalize on it. But I don’t see that happening. Maybe Purdue can but IU would never market to that....

I think you completely misunderstood my comment. Both schools and college football in general took a hit with fans who previously purchased tickets for schools they did not attend when the NFL came to town. Some very poor PR decisions by the NFL and the poor performance of the Colts have combined to create an opportunity to attract non aligned fans to college football which is far more exciting, high scoring and entertaining than it was thirty years ago. Did not understand your 50% comment. My point is that regardless of what the percentage is, the NFL has seriously damaged their product and it is costing them financially in both Stadium attendance and TV viewership.
 
I’d love to see IU/PU do a combined marketing plan for football fans that have been alienated by the protests.... I think they could generate some sales simply based on principle. Fill the stadiums at IU and Purdue each game sellouts..... that would be interesting.....working together to take advantage of a situation....

Fred could have his fire works shows and big flag ceremony..... Purdue could.....well....

I bet you end up with a certain percentage that stay as season ticket holders.
I live in Florida. I had a chance to go to Tampa to watch Drew Brees play. I opted to spend my entertainment dollars to go back to Purdue and watch Purdue/Illinois FB game and a Men's BB exhibition game. No NFL for me!
 
I can honestly say that nobody I know wants to see athletes parade around and make political statements on Sundays. F That! Several of my friends and neighbors have dumped tickets, not gone to games, and quit watching. For the first time in 40 plus years I quit caring and did not watch one game this year. Also I really don't miss it.
I know that this is vague, but essentially in September I was doing some research, and there’s evidence that the nfl was already in a (bubble) prior to the kneeling. Around 2013 that bubble hit a peak. ESPN and most athletics are in a similar spot, and essentially it would be impossible for the NFL to be as profitable as it once was. I think that attendance and ratings began to decline before the kneeling, and ESPN has a similar issue. Prices can only stretch so far ect. So although a lot of people were mad about the political statement (for good reason), the nfl and espn are kind of screwed anyway based on what I looked it. Similar to a housing bubble, the nfl/ESPN had certain favoriable factors that were not sustainable. The NFL/ESPN got overly optimistic at the height of the “sports bubble”, and totally miscalculated what would be possible in future years. Long story short, no matter what, the nfl is going to lose viewership/attendance/a reduction in revenue for a while, even if they banned kneeling and didn’t piss off their consumer base.

Now, obviously it’s bad to piss off your consumer base at the same time that the “athletics” bubble is deflating.
 
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