You have to go back to Florida State under coach Bowden when Casey Weldon and Brad Johnson alternated time at QB during games. He did this several times before but 1990 was the last year he did this.
ISU - post game musings
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After a perceived ‘turtle in a shell‘ performance v. OSU, IU’s offense showed some life.
To be fair, poor starting position contributed to last week’s play calling.
3-9 is off the table with any continuity on offense (33 first downs),
as the defense gets off the field on 3rd down. 4 conversions in 8 quarters so far.
The defense got off the field on 3rd down in 2020 too.
6-6/7-5 and perhaps 8-4 will require fewer penalties… and few injuries.
I thought Jackson earned the start v. UL. Allen will go through the process,
which we should all be happy for him to do. Two weeks with no INTs on offense.
Baz was good for too many last year.
I was hoping the OL (and DL) would do slightly better than they did.
5 ypc would be great next week too.
CTAs comments after the game said he got what he was looking for (on D).
Next week’s contest will show the relative strength of the OL —
ULs DL looked big enough v. GT., and did get a key 3rd quarter shutout.
I think IU OL v. UL DL is the key matchup next week.
I like IUs DBs v. UL WRs after their success v. OSU.
DBs need to take advantage of Plummer’s misses and get INTs for a short field.
To be fair, poor starting position contributed to last week’s play calling.
3-9 is off the table with any continuity on offense (33 first downs),
as the defense gets off the field on 3rd down. 4 conversions in 8 quarters so far.
The defense got off the field on 3rd down in 2020 too.
6-6/7-5 and perhaps 8-4 will require fewer penalties… and few injuries.
I thought Jackson earned the start v. UL. Allen will go through the process,
which we should all be happy for him to do. Two weeks with no INTs on offense.
Baz was good for too many last year.
I was hoping the OL (and DL) would do slightly better than they did.
5 ypc would be great next week too.
CTAs comments after the game said he got what he was looking for (on D).
Next week’s contest will show the relative strength of the OL —
ULs DL looked big enough v. GT., and did get a key 3rd quarter shutout.
I think IU OL v. UL DL is the key matchup next week.
I like IUs DBs v. UL WRs after their success v. OSU.
DBs need to take advantage of Plummer’s misses and get INTs for a short field.
Dexter Williams completed a whopping 34% of his passes. He was another in a series of quarterbacks that were thrown to the wolves. I think the jury is still out regarding the primary quarterback and that's not necessarily A bad thing
Not that it means anything, but Jackson had to come out for a play after being tossed on his ass. He's going to get hit a lot harder than that in the future.
I thought Sorsby was hanging his head after coming out. I hate to see it, but understand it - he knows Jackson will probably start next week. But he needs to keep his head in the game, because odds are about 99% he'll be needed before too long, whether Jackson gets injured or doesn't perform.
Yeah, TJ seemed to throw a bit high/long but was bailed out with some good catches by the WRs. He also was a bit antsy in the pocket. On the play he got dinged up and had to sit out a play, he had a clean pocket, but kept inching forward until he basically ran into the defense.
if TJ is named starter and doesn't perform Sorsby better get a chance
if not that shows Allen hasn't learned a damn thing
and many will be pissed
He played close to 10 plays a game. Yes not exactly rotating qb like they did with Johnson, Palmer and Brindise who they rotated virtually every play. Spurrier felt like he coach them up In between plays and able call plays to their strength
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he only threw more than 3 passes in two games that year. And if he was averaging 10 plays per game he almost never handed it off.
Look at that game log, he was a short yardage back in ‘06.
We’re straying from the original point, but the ‘06 Gators aren’t the example you’re looking for.
We dominated a third grade math test. Not sure anyone would find relevance in that.
Jackson hit 86% of his passes to like 9 different receivers compared to to Sorsby’s 56% and I think Jackson had two long completions wiped off the board because Carpenter was three yards downfield.
I’m glad both are Hoosiers. Ultimately, it comes down to who the rest of the team likes more, who has their sh*t together in preparation and practice, and, all that being equal, who has the talent.
Also, maybe Jaylin Lucas can be the second coming of Percy Harvin, speaking of the 06 Gators.
I’m glad both are Hoosiers. Ultimately, it comes down to who the rest of the team likes more, who has their sh*t together in preparation and practice, and, all that being equal, who has the talent.
Also, maybe Jaylin Lucas can be the second coming of Percy Harvin, speaking of the 06 Gators.
That's a good point. Sorsby will get his chance. The only problem I see is we have a very competitive game against Louisville and the QB needs to be primed and ready to go not this- your turn my turn strategy. That should have already been decided pre season.
Interesting but I bet an exception rather than the rule.
The “2 QBs means no QB” is often repeated.
I do not know if we have appointed Jackson as the QB or we are still alternating.
JFC. The original post said we didn't look or feel dominant. I was responding to that.
Who we are playing doesn't impact whether we did or did not dominate the team we played.
ISU was bad. It was still an inarguably dominant performance. Not hard to understand.
I just think people are afraid to do it. Both these are pretty comparable. I don’t see one as being better than the other. So if they if play both so be it.
Hopefully he doesn’t smoke as much weed as Percy lol.
I agree with point 10, the performance didn't 'feel' as dominant as the stats make it appear. Maybe that has more to do with Indiana repeatedly shooting itself in the foot more than what ISU did.
Point 9 I believe McCulley is due to have a big game any week now. He seems much more comfortable out there.
Just got home from Bloomington for football, staying at my brother in laws in Bloomington last night then Brown County for my granddaughter's cross-country race. Then back to Bloomington for late lunch and then back home to Terre Haute.
After following Hoosiers football since the mid 60's and attending games since student 1976 have had a different perspective on Hoosier football. After 2 games I really have no clue how this team will fare the rest of the year. Indiana State is bad and OSU is good and will get a lot better so maybe best we got them early before offense is fully developed.
My good, so-so and bad observations:
Bad: While we had a successful passing game last night (it was ISU) they had way to me people close to the quarterback all night. I thought the line looked better on passing protection against OSU than they did last night.
Jaylin's fumble, Carpenter's two penalties, the running into the kicker's penalties. overall, too many penalties in my book, and kickoffs out of bounce.
S0-so: Run blocking and quarterback running. Both quarterbacks are still learning the running game and sometimes indecisive. Sorsby seems to have the better natural instincts in the running game. Receivers made some really nice catches but also had some really bad drops but part of the game but can really change momentum both positive and negative. Defensive play calls taking too long to make and guys not getting in right position.
Positive: Defense seems to be more aggressive and better than last year but will learn a lot more over the two weeks how we set up going into the last 8 big ten games. I actually thought we played worse despite only giving up 95 yards and 0 defensive points. The defense scored against average is 11.5 points and the offense is giving up 3.5 per game. Jackson did connect on 18-21 passes with a couple of fantastic catches.
Lucas is always going to make weaker teams look bad with his speed and moves. Unfortunately, we may only have a couple of those the rest of the season. Omar Cooper looked really good for the first time in his IU career.
General observations: Each game is totally different and i have learned not to be too disappointed or excited until about 6 games into the season. As injuries do or don't affect the health and depth of the team. I do believe will make a big difference this year. Quarterback situation might sort itself out. I am not sure who Tayven reminds me of, but Sorsby is in between Ramsey and Chappell. I like Henderson and Lucas a lot in both passing and running game. I believe that we have 5 or 6 receivers who will contribute over the course of the year.
Bottom line I am still waiting on a poster who say Louisville is going to be kill IU to let me know if they agree to give me the 10 or 17 points in either a beer or gentlemans bet.
Oh well beat Louisville and keep improving Hoosiers.
After following Hoosiers football since the mid 60's and attending games since student 1976 have had a different perspective on Hoosier football. After 2 games I really have no clue how this team will fare the rest of the year. Indiana State is bad and OSU is good and will get a lot better so maybe best we got them early before offense is fully developed.
My good, so-so and bad observations:
Bad: While we had a successful passing game last night (it was ISU) they had way to me people close to the quarterback all night. I thought the line looked better on passing protection against OSU than they did last night.
Jaylin's fumble, Carpenter's two penalties, the running into the kicker's penalties. overall, too many penalties in my book, and kickoffs out of bounce.
S0-so: Run blocking and quarterback running. Both quarterbacks are still learning the running game and sometimes indecisive. Sorsby seems to have the better natural instincts in the running game. Receivers made some really nice catches but also had some really bad drops but part of the game but can really change momentum both positive and negative. Defensive play calls taking too long to make and guys not getting in right position.
Positive: Defense seems to be more aggressive and better than last year but will learn a lot more over the two weeks how we set up going into the last 8 big ten games. I actually thought we played worse despite only giving up 95 yards and 0 defensive points. The defense scored against average is 11.5 points and the offense is giving up 3.5 per game. Jackson did connect on 18-21 passes with a couple of fantastic catches.
Lucas is always going to make weaker teams look bad with his speed and moves. Unfortunately, we may only have a couple of those the rest of the season. Omar Cooper looked really good for the first time in his IU career.
General observations: Each game is totally different and i have learned not to be too disappointed or excited until about 6 games into the season. As injuries do or don't affect the health and depth of the team. I do believe will make a big difference this year. Quarterback situation might sort itself out. I am not sure who Tayven reminds me of, but Sorsby is in between Ramsey and Chappell. I like Henderson and Lucas a lot in both passing and running game. I believe that we have 5 or 6 receivers who will contribute over the course of the year.
Bottom line I am still waiting on a poster who say Louisville is going to be kill IU to let me know if they agree to give me the 10 or 17 points in either a beer or gentlemans bet.
Oh well beat Louisville and keep improving Hoosiers.
I’m saying dominance isn’t relevant when the competition is inferior. Not sure why that troubles you.
Watched the replay and indeed this was total control. What we wanted to see.
In the 2006 season Urban "Let me Grab Your Ass" Meyer made a two-quarterback system work throughout the year with Chris Leak always starting and playing most of the snaps and Tim Tebow coming in on short-yardage situations. Occasionally, ole' "Let me Grab Your Ass" would keep Tebow in if he started a drive.... it was definitely a 2-QB system and Meyer himself called it that.... BTW, the Florida Gators were the BCS National Champs that year.... It works if you have the right players.
That is NOT a 2 QB system. That’s the equivalent to having a wildcat QB. I posted his game log earlier. He was a situational QB at best that year.
Maybe, for this game, many IU fans tend to over-emphasize the negatives and under emphasize the positives?
I like to think I’m as positive an IU guy as there is. It just didn’t feel right. Hope I’m wrong.
I didn’t understand your point about the 10 or 17 points?
Is that a spread or some kind of margin of victory?
I went to Friday's game feeling like it was pretty much the equivalent of last season's Idaho game. I guess the biggest difference between this year and last is that I left that Idaho game knowing IU wasn't going to be a competitive B1G team. At least this season, after two games, there's still reason to be hopeful that there will be enough improvement in the coming weeks to win a few conference games.
You generate energy when you play (and regularly beat) teams with a pulse. I don't think there is anyone in that stadium who really thought Indiana St. had a chance on Friday night.
To go with your analogy, Assembly Hall's atmosphere against teams above 200 RPI in early December tends to be different than against conference foes in January...
We wouldn't have beat MSU without Dexter. His completion percentage would rise with more attempts and work as the #1 QB.
Williams and Jackson can run a similar offense. Having several QB options opens up one of my dreams to have an athletic QBs in a game to open up opportunities and make the defense question are they a receiver, runner, passer, or decoy.
