Heh, I don't know which is worse. That you A) typed that response or B) hit the Post reply button.
I think you are taking the devil's advocate role a little too seriously?
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Heh, I don't know which is worse. That you A) typed that response or B) hit the Post reply button.
I think you are taking the devil's advocate role a little too seriously?
I'm saying the Gazans are not a free people, and we can't just assume they actually endorse the people who "run" their local hellhole. You disagree with that assessment?
The Gazan people are being held captive by Hamas? 2.1 million people living in a 141 square mile land mass are being kept at bay by fewer than 20,000 militia fighters with small arms? Or maybe what we really have is a population that isn't so different ideologically from those that run their "shi-tho-lee" that they can't be moved to act despite not having elections in 20 years?
I don't know. I'm just asking how you can say a population has the "leaders they want" when they haven't had an opportunity to actually choose leaders in two decades.
Buttressed by the actions of Hamas, it's supporters and the Gazan people since 10/7/23 up to present day, I'm going to say it's more likely than not that the average Gazan aligns themselves with Hamas. That's how.
The claim wasn't that they support them. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. The claim was that they chose them. I think it's pretty clear they did not. They didn't choose anyone.
The lines between Hamas and Palestinians are quite blurred.
And the BBC is trash, much like the UK these days
Take this for example
It’s not just Hamas that is operating among the Palestinians
Hey, what about a single state solution with Jews and Palestinians living side by side enjoying the same equal rights?
Rights which include practicing freedom of religion.
One important caveat, citizens must follow the laws of the land.
Yep, they simply don't trust each other.
Really hard to negotiate any agreement when each side doesn't trust the other.
The single state notion goes even further. Requires trust plus respecting and liking each other. Good example would be Reagan and Gorbachev.
Said the baby and toddler were strangled. Not by Hamas, they were taken by Palestinian "civilians".
It takes some up close and personal psychopathy to strangle a baby. I truly do believe that the average Palestinian above the age of 13 or so is irredeemable when it comes to the topic of living with the Israelis. They have lost. They are not going to win that fight and continuing to stay locked in the conflict is so unhealthy for them civilizationally, they are unwanted by their Egyptian and Jordanian cousins. They need moved. Pluck them from Gaza and drop them in Tripoli to start anew. Anywhere across the Muslim world really, just can't stay where they are. And I would run them out of the Judea and Samaria too.
There was some wisdom in the brutality of wars in the pre-modern age. Leave or die, we aren't going to be able to coexist.
And we are still at odds with Russia.
There is no single state solution. There really isn't a two state solution on that tiny strip of territory. That is the reality.
It's impossible to find any level of "trust" with a society (the Palestinians) that teaches their youngest that murdering you is a great idea...
