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Israel under attack from Hamas

Yep. Total war seems out and I'm not certain Israel would win against the combined might of the Russian (and probably Chinese) backed petro/arabian states. Not without US troops or nukes. And we don't want that.

There is a radical idea.

Allow Palestinians (women/children first) living in Gaza/West Bank to become Israeli citizens. Start with the women/children. Then males under 12/13 and those over 70. Then figure out a way to deal with the rest. Allow them the full rights and privileges of a 1st world Western liberal(ish) democracy.

There is no way to kill them all without starting a 50 year war or one that can only be ended quickly with nukes.

Yes, I know this won't happen but I see no other way to bring the Islamic world trapped under theocracy into the Western world.

Yeah none of that is going to happen. Neither side would want anything to do with such an idea. Palestinians don't want to be Israeli citizens. And Israel is for damn sure never going to be a Jewish minority state. Which basically means it doesn't exist, at least not as its intended purpose.
 
I don't know what you mean by a rabbit hole. I really didn't know exactly what 76-1 meant.

I'm just as enraged as anyone else here about what Hamas did. I support the hunting down and execution of every single militant member of Hamas in Gaza, and the lifetime jailing of any supporting members of Hamas in Gaza (if they die during apprehension, no money need be wasted on an investigation) or anyone worldwide tied to these atrocities.

But I think everyone should check themselves on the possibility that that anger becomes hatred that then justifies full on genocide or the slaughter of innocents. I consider Palestinian children innocents.

And there are a fvckton lot of them in Gaza:


I wish this wasn't the case and the solution here was simpler. But it is not. My preference would be for the world to come together and offer Palestinians a piece of land outside the area that could be theirs. They can have Florida, if they like, south of Tampa--it'd be easy to wall off that area. Or the western part of Australia. Or all of Greenland? Then give them a year to relocate, after which Israel can invade/retake the land and do what they wish.
south of tampa. are you nuts. that's prime real estate. bosnos and amish are already there. st pete. clearwater. sarasota. fort myers. naples. no. desert land out west. by some water.
 
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There is no way the Jews in Israel are going to allow themselves to become minorities in a country ruled by people who think this:



You can't live with that let alone give it voting power over you.
I suspect a great many Palestinians live in fear not only of Israelis, but of other Palestinians. Do you believe the Palestinian women and children really hate Israel enough to give up the opportunity to relieve their squalor? It's very possible I know. But, as many have noted, there has to be a baseline agreement about just living and raising children that most people can agree on, even with the indoctrination of religion and its zealots?

Yeah none of that is going to happen. Neither side would want anything to do with such an idea. Palestinians don't want to be Israeli citizens. And Israel is for damn sure never going to be a Jewish minority state. Which basically means it doesn't exist, at least not as its intended purpose.
Oh, I suspect nothing like this would happen. But what they hell else are they going to do. They ****ing live right next to each other. I don't see any way out of this other than some radical change. So either kill them all and let God sort them out or just stop ****ing fighting already.

Also, It would be about 50/50 right? About 7.2 million Jews in Israel. Add the remaining non Jews (Christians/Muslims) plus Palestinians and we've got about 7 million. Then it just becomes about politicking whihc is a damn sight more agreeable then whatever the **** they've got now.

But yes, pipe dreams remain pipe dreams.
 
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They are the OG Nazis. Hitler was around for a few decades, these guys got centuries on that.
Well, this is disappointing:


Apparently, she's losing a podcast over these remarks. She's probably better suited for a visual medium anyway, I think.
 
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Well, this is disappointing:


Apparently, she's losing a podcast over these remarks. She's probably better suited for a visual medium anyway, I think.
OnlyFans star.......haha ok.
 
God bless and keep you honey. You really have lost your mind.
Uh huh. Just heard Biden speak very forcefully. Seems all there to me. You don’t need to worry about mine either, but thanks for the blessing. You might keep your concerns for the nut job you support.
 
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Yeah, i forgot he was raised by Jewish, black Puerto Ricans from Scranton, taught political theory at Penn, and drove an 18-wheeler after graduating with three majors and riding Amtrak 1263 times.
What does any of that have to do with whether Biden is dumb or not?
 
I'm starting to feel sorry for Zeke. She's too stupid to realize how much she's been pummeled for her vacuous posting.
Oh I just remember who I’m talking to here and who they support and I’m good. I’m impressed you know what vacuous means, Danny Boy.
 
Why in the world would that matter? Israeli intelligence are professionals. They do their job no matter what the government is. They simply struck out this time.
Maybe you haven't been paying attention, but recently there's been a strong push to 'abandon the old ways' and this includes the hard stances Israel has always been required to take when it comes to security and border lines. In fact, no country does security as they do, for obvious reasons. Any "let down" can be fatal.

Also, their department leaders are closely tied to the PM positions, much like our Cabinet. To say Netanyahu wouldn't have an impact on such an important issue is naïve at best. As an example, he just fired his Minister of Defense in March, of maybe which you weren't aware.
 
I haven't heard any of this coming from Israel, just the US right wing, trying to score political points. It may have been unwise to free-up the funds. I'm willing to consider that.

But the incessant smart-ass memes seems like the typical, tiresome, uninformed Biden/Dem-bashing. We're on the winning side, ultimately.
Exactly!! That’s why I’ve been posting some of the things from my Jewish friends and the people and news outlets whom they follow. It seems like a lot of these folks are just waiting to play the blame game. I remember mostly a few weeks of unity after 9/11. No longer. Immediately jump to blaming Biden.
 
Look, over there!! Lol.
Well one can’t really say with a straight face that the Dems are in disarray when the Republicans can’t even get a speaker and are holding up military assignments. That seems pretty pertinent right now, doesn’t it?
 
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Had to look up what OnlyFans was, did you?

Don't worry Mrs. lars, I'm not falling for it either.
I tell her all the time she's missing out on a gold mine. I mean, sure, mcm isn't interested in 50 y/o women with nice bodies, but there's enough you could make a decent living.

Nothing confirmed but I think with my 10% mgmt fee.......
 
I believe it was Golda Meir who said if the Palestinians lay down their arms, we will have peace. If Israelis lay down their arms, we will have genocide. Do you disagree?



Really? Is that enough? Seems like we have been saying that for generations.
Who is we? Are you Jewish? Do you live in Israel? This is from someone who does. Just giving that perspective.
 
Yes it was. But some people do not use the best indicators for predicting presidents who will actually do what they say they will do.
Can you name one president who has?
 
I tell her all the time she's missing out on a gold mine. I mean, sure, mcm isn't interested in 50 y/o women with nice bodies, but there's enough you could make a decent living.

Nothing confirmed but I think with my 10% mgmt fee.......
I’m not interested in women I don’t think. Enough is enough. Bonfire weather. Might burn all my crotch hugging lulus and use the clay Travis Buck sexton Duluth trading co code and get some baggy cargo pants and be done. Get real fat
 
I’m not interested in women I don’t think. Enough is enough. Bonfire weather. Might burn all my crotch hugging lulus and use the clay Travis Buck sexton Duluth trading co code and get some baggy cargo pants and be done. Get real fat
Listen. Get in here real close.......

THERE ARE WOMEN WHO FEEL THE SAME WAY AS YOU. THEY ARE JUST NOT 35 ANYMORE.

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Well, this is disappointing:


Apparently, she's losing a podcast over these remarks. She's probably better suited for a visual medium anyway, I think.
She is one of those where it is like, sweetheart...what do you think they would do with someone with your past over there?
 
Still wanting to defund police and standing with Palestine. Blm is something else
And don't forget the kids in Comet Pizza's basement that Hillary feeds on..

fwiw - you would have to be a complete idiot to believe anything coming from twitter concerning this conflict. Especially if reposted by Jack Posobiac. Don't be that person ...
 
Who is we? Are you Jewish? Do you live in Israel? This is from someone who does. Just giving that perspective.
What’s their perspective on babies that were beheaded? They happy with Biden coddling Iran not calling them out?
 
And don't forget the kids in Comet Pizza's basement that Hillary feeds on..

fwiw - you would have to be a complete idiot to believe anything coming from twitter concerning this conflict. Especially if reposted by Jack Posobiac. Don't be that person ...
blm support is nothing new.



and it's still defund the police


don't be that person... nothing surprises me with BLM
 


Meh. Not strong enough on the death of 14 American citizens and taking of American hostages. All he's talking about is lending Israel our "expertise" on hostage negotiation and recovery (w/r/t the murders and hostage taking). This calls for a stronger deterrent signal. Otherwise, Americans are sitting ducks around the globe.

As for not mentioning Iran, here's hoping that is because we are going to work behind the scenes to hurt them and have plausible deniability.

Kinda shocking an American President can't take questions from the press on an issue like this. That's not a good look.
 
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As for not mentioning Iran, here's hoping that is because we are going to work behind the scenes to hurt them and have plausible deniability.
The WH has said repeatedly that Iran supports Hamas, but they are lacking any evidence Iran had anything to do with these specific attacks, and has noted that Israel is saying the same thing. So, either both the US and Israel are still gathering the facts re: Iran, or, as you suggest, they are keeping their lips sealed because something is in the works.
 
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