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Israel attacks Iran's nuclear and military infrastructure.

The problem is what happens next when Iran starts attacking our troops and bases. Then you have a full scale war and hundreds of thousands will die with incredible instability in the Middle East. Inflation and gas prices will explode.

No.... You would have immediate massive suppressive fires that would make what the Israelis have done to them so far look like child's play...

As far as gas prices go... Gee wouldn't it be great if Biden hadn't sold most of our strategic reserves to the f---ing Chinese!
 
The question is can the Iranian people actually come up with a worse, more internationally dangerous leadership group than they have now?

Given that the populace follows the lead of a Death Cult based in Qom there's more than even money that that could be the case (which is why I'd flatten Qom if I were them)...
I think there are still enough Iranians who don't want what they have and could make it work. Remember in Obama's first term when they were protesting? We didn't support them with even an encouraging tweet, but they were still protesting.

Can the next leadership group be any more anti-american and pro violence than this bunch?
 
I think there are still enough Iranians who don't want what they have and could make it work. Remember in Obama's first term when they were protesting? We didn't support them with even an encouraging tweet, but they were still protesting.

Can the next leadership group be any more anti-american and pro violence than this bunch?

You'd like to think not but given their religious bent (as in Completely Nuts) I have little faith in their coming up with any semblance of normal leadership...

Hope I'm wrong...
 
It's telling that the question is about what the Iranians will do after the Israelis kill their leaders. Why isn't it incumbent upon the killers to have, I dunno, a plan of some sort?

I think the Israelis have planned this from A-Z ; the problem will be whether they will really have the leverage they need to create their version of what they might want the next Iranian government to look like...

Attackers are rarely looked at as liberators no matter how righteous their cause...

The only time I can recall in recent history where something positive came of something like this was Japan from 1945 to 1948... Unfortunately..., I think their society was very unique...

Germany went smoothly (relatively) because we had a serious common enemy in the Rooskies...
 
You don't reckon if a feller came a courtin' with a few strays and a box of her favorite dog killin' ammo he'd had a square chance do ya? Askin' for a friend of course...
These damn dogs killed muh chickens and I ain't rightly sure what I oughta do 'bout it.
 
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A clear, "I cannot choose the vial in front of me" moment. Gabbard said Iran was not working on a bomb. Trump dismissed that. I am not sure what that means, do they see different intel?


When it comes to attacking Iran, I bought into the Iraq argument. Given that, I am not sure I accept we KNOW they are working on a bomb, let alone close. I doubt he tries to build a case, which makes it harder to know.
 
I think the Israelis have planned this from A-Z ; the problem will be whether they will really have the leverage they need to create their version of what they might want the next Iranian government to look like...

Attackers are rarely looked at as liberators no matter how righteous their cause...

The only time I can recall in recent history where something positive came of something like this was Japan from 1945 to 1948... Unfortunately..., I think their society was very unique...

Germany went smoothly (relatively) because we had a serious common enemy in the Rooskies...
I agree that it is unlikely that the Iranian people will get excited about the version of the Iranian government that Israel envisions. That would be like expecting Stephen Miller to be excited about the vision Rashida Tlaib has for the U.S. government.

The only way it works is finding a way to set the table for the Iranian people to choose a government that ends up being more broadly acceptable to Israel even though it isn't everything they insist upon. But that's a really challenging needle to thread.
 
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Lol... The circling firing squad in MAGA world is on max speed these days.


It’s been a while since the far left (Ilan, AOC, Bernie Bros, Antifa) were united in a cause with the far right (Tucker, Ye, Andrew Tate, Candace Owens, Tim Pool).

It’s wild how much certain people have changed in only a few years. It’s almost like someone is paying them to be crazy…
 
It’s been a while since the far left (Ilan, AOC, Bernie Bros, Antifa) were united in a cause with the far right (Tucker, Ye, Andrew Tate, Candace Owens, Tim Pool).

It’s wild how much certain people have changed in only a few years. It’s almost like someone is paying them to be crazy…
For Ye, it was after his mom died. She was the rock in his life and now he’s aimless.
 
The problem is what happens next when Iran starts attacking our troops and bases. Then you have a full scale war and hundreds of thousands will die with incredible instability in the Middle East. Inflation and gas prices will explode.
Don't worry, the tariffs were all a master plan to prepare us for inflation lol
 
Waiting for this urgent presser. Trump did leave the G7 to announce the installation of a couple flag poles st the White House.

Meanwhile we have Ukraine vs Russia, Israel vs Iran, Israel in Gaza, and the recently paused India vs Pakistan. Oh, and Modi called out Trumps lie about brokering peace.

The rest of the world is laughing at Trump. The G7 highlighted his greatly diminished skills. He's good for a quote or two. No depth.
 
Waiting for this urgent presser. Trump did leave the G7 to announce the installation of a couple flag poles st the White House.

Meanwhile we have Ukraine vs Russia, Israel vs Iran, Israel in Gaza, and the recently paused India vs Pakistan. Oh, and Modi called out Trumps lie about brokering peace.

The rest of the world is laughing at Trump. The G7 highlighted his greatly diminished skills. He's good for a quote or two. No depth.
Here i thought wars only happened under Biden and were all his fault.

Trump must have forgotten to end the wars in 1 day.
 
I agree that it is unlikely that the Iranian people will get excited about the version of the Iranian government that Israel envisions. That would be like expecting Stephen Miller to be excited about the vision Rashida Tlaib has for the U.S. government.

The only way it works is finding a way to set the table for the Iranian people to choose a government that ends up being more broadly acceptable to Israel even though it isn't everything they insist upon. But that's a really challenging needle to thread.
The ultimate irony is thinking Netanyahu can install a regime in any likeness other than his warmongering own.
 
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I agree that it is unlikely that the Iranian people will get excited about the version of the Iranian government that Israel envisions. That would be like expecting Stephen Miller to be excited about the vision Rashida Tlaib has for the U.S. government.

The only way it works is finding a way to set the table for the Iranian people to choose a government that ends up being more broadly acceptable to Israel even though it isn't everything they insist upon. But that's a really challenging needle to thread.
No matter what Bibi is using as justification, I'm guessing Israel cares less about the version or form of Iran's government, and more about whatever form it is just not declaring one of its goals is the destruction of the state of Israel and then sponsoring terrorism to achieve said goal.
 
A clear, "I cannot choose the vial in front of me" moment. Gabbard said Iran was not working on a bomb. Trump dismissed that. I am not sure what that means, do they see different intel?


When it comes to attacking Iran, I bought into the Iraq argument. Given that, I am not sure I accept we KNOW they are working on a bomb, let alone close. I doubt he tries to build a case, which makes it harder to know.
I don't think any intelligence services doubt that Iran wants a bomb or is "working" on it, do they?
 
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No matter what Bibi is using as justification, I'm guessing Israel cares less about the version or form of Iran's government, and more about whatever form it is just not declaring one of its goals is the destruction of the state of Israel and then sponsoring terrorism to achieve said goal.
Then they would be wise to stop talking about their plans for Iranian governance.
 
The ultimate irony is thinking Netanyahu can install a regime in any likeness other than his warmongering own.
I think the "warmongering own" part may cause people to miss the point, but I agree otherwise. Victory is the Iranian people choosing the kind of government and posture towards Israel that Israel can live with...not Israel (or the U.S.) creating the kind of government it wants. But, that's also the massive challenge that I'm not sure current leadership in either place is capable of.
 
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