Is Woodson leaving IU in a better place?

[jacksback]

An article in the Indystar, and I didn't read article because it requires a subscription but the headline says that Woody is leaving IU in a better place than when he got here. I'm curious of people's opinions on that.

I think we're in pretty much the same place, as in mired in mediocrity, underperforming and hoping to squeak into the tournament which is pathetic. I'd argue that Woody has far more talent at his disposal than Lil Arch did but you could chalk that up to our vast NIL dollars and literal ability to buy kids like Ballo and Tucker and Rice rather than anything Woody has done. I'll let someone else compare records, recruiting stars etc but I can't honestly think of a single thing Woody has done to put us in a better place than when he got here. I mean we have one of the highest payrolls in the game and we're still be begging to get into the NCAA tournament.

 

[bailey777]

An article in the Indystar, and I didn't read article because it requires a subscription but the headline says that Woody is leaving IU in a better place than when he got here. I'm curious of people's opinions on that.

I think we're in pretty much the same place, as in mired in mediocrity, underperforming and hoping to squeak into the tournament which is pathetic. I'd argue that Woody has far more talent at his disposal than Lil Arch did but you could chalk that up to our vast NIL dollars and literal ability to buy kids like Ballo and Tucker and Rice rather than anything Woody has done. I'll let someone else compare records, recruiting stars etc but I can't honestly think of a single thing Woody has done to put us in a better place than when he got here. I mean we have one of the highest payrolls in the game and we're still be begging to get into the NCAA tournament.

No not at all. There was no culture or foundation built in the least. By all accounts he built no relationships with Indiana HS coaches at all. All he really did was buy players and hope for the best.

Most everyone can see past a media fluff to piece.

 

[kurt cloverdales]

An article in the Indystar, and I didn't read article because it requires a subscription but the headline says that Woody is leaving IU in a better place than when he got here. I'm curious of people's opinions on that.

I think we're in pretty much the same place, as in mired in mediocrity, underperforming and hoping to squeak into the tournament which is pathetic. I'd argue that Woody has far more talent at his disposal than Lil Arch did but you could chalk that up to our vast NIL dollars and literal ability to buy kids like Ballo and Tucker and Rice rather than anything Woody has done. I'll let someone else compare records, recruiting stars etc but I can't honestly think of a single thing Woody has done to put us in a better place than when he got here. I mean we have one of the highest payrolls in the game and we're still be begging to get into the NCAA tournament.

worse off than we were 4 years ago, he inherited a talented roster, the new coach wont. silver lining is you can build a roster, basically in a couple of weeks. overall, we are basically the same as when he took the job,

 

[kurt cloverdales]

No not at all. There was no culture or foundation built in the least. By all accounts he built no relationships with Indiana HS coaches at all. All he really did was buy players and hope for the best.

Most everyone can see past a media fluff to piece.

you are the most negative asshat on the interwebs

 

[ams66]

I think we're in a little better place, Woodson was better than Archie. Made the tournament (barely) 3 out of 4 years (probably) and no 1-12 stretches, or whatever Archie had. Slightly better overall win percentage. But still far below expectations or program history. And Woodson had NIL and spent a lot of it. I would not say he built any kind of solid program for the next coach, more just treaded water.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Woodson inherited one of the top 3 players in the nation. The next coach will inherit Trent Sisley.

 

[ams66]

Woodson inherited one of the top 3 players in the nation. The next coach will inherit Trent Sisley.

He might have Goode?

 

[hozo4ultimate]

An article in the Indystar, and I didn't read article because it requires a subscription but the headline says that Woody is leaving IU in a better place than when he got here. I'm curious of people's opinions on that.

I think we're in pretty much the same place, as in mired in mediocrity, underperforming and hoping to squeak into the tournament which is pathetic. I'd argue that Woody has far more talent at his disposal than Lil Arch did but you could chalk that up to our vast NIL dollars and literal ability to buy kids like Ballo and Tucker and Rice rather than anything Woody has done. I'll let someone else compare records, recruiting stars etc but I can't honestly think of a single thing Woody has done to put us in a better place than when he got here. I mean we have one of the highest payrolls in the game and we're still be begging to get into the NCAA tournament.

Absolutely not. The program lost it's identity under Woodson. The only thing IU basketball is known for currently is a top tier payroll.

 

[bailey777]

Absolutely not. The program lost it's identity under Woodson. The only thing IU basketball is known for currently is a top tier payroll.

And his big money booster friends are partly to blame for that. Instead of cutting him lose and hiring may they gave him millions more in NIL and we got year four.

 

[iubirdman]

Woodson inherited one of the top 3 players in the nat

The only guys not in the portal when Woody was hired were Trey and Leal, so while he did convince TJD to stay, he was in the portal, along with everyone not named Galloway and Leal when he was hire.

New guy may or may not have more than 2 guys to start with, and will probably have guys he can bring with him as well.

Not a huge Woodson fan, but as a whole, the program is at least on par with what it was with Miller, and slightly better results on the floor

 

[GThomas]

No not at all. There was no culture or foundation built in the least. By all accounts he built no relationships with Indiana HS coaches at all. All he really did was buy players and hope for the best.

Most everyone can see past a media fluff to piece.

⬆️ What he said.

 

[IUgradman]

No, it sucked four years ago and it sucks now. Miller lost 58 games in four seasons. Woodson will lose 54.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

No.

 

[kmathum]

An article in the Indystar, and I didn't read article because it requires a subscription but the

headline says that Woody is leaving IU in a better place than when he got here. I'm curious of people's opinions on that.

I think we're in pretty much the same place, as in mired in mediocrity, underperforming and hoping to squeak into the tournament which is pathetic. I'd argue that Woody has far more talent at his disposal than Lil Arch did but you could chalk that up to our vast NIL dollars and literal ability to buy kids like Ballo and Tucker and Rice rather than anything Woody has done. I'll let someone else compare records, recruiting stars etc but I can't honestly think of a single thing Woody has done to put us in a better place than when he got here. I mean we have one of the highest payrolls in the game and we're still be begging to get into the NCAA tournament.

 

[Radio Zero]

It’s just been four additional years of decay.