What whole narrative?
The whole trans genocide thing and quite a bit of Trans people on social media calling for violence. The narrative the algorithms likely fed him.
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What whole narrative?
No it’s a black culture issue. There are a ton of poor people in Appalachia. 100,00 blacks in stl will murder more people than all of wv etc.
Where did you see the gender stuff? Just read multiple stories and did not see anything about that.
I know this is a couple years old, but West Virginia had twice as many gun deaths as St. Louis in 2023.
Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality
www.cdc.gov
Good news for the Louis, looks like violent crime was down last year.
Kansas City closes 2023 with record homicide count; St. Louis reports about 20% reduction
Kansas City, Missouri, reported a record homicide tally in 2023, while a significant drop was reported in St. Louis on the opposite end of the Show-Me State.www.foxnews.com
I'm sorry you lost someone like that. Terrible.The issue here isn't who the killers are. It's who the victims are.
Street violence doesn't tend to take a lot of innocent lives. Trouble tends to find trouble. (You'll make this about race. It's not.)
I lost someone to street violence, and without question he was involved in something he shouldn't have been. His father was bitter about it, including the decisions his son made. It doesn't make what happened right, still efforts being made to get information on who did it, but he still wasn't strolling innocently in a mall, at church or some kid in school.
Baltimore was covered -- that was this summer.
St. Louis was covered.
Charleston was covered.
Just off the top of my head.
no 75% of gun deaths in wv are suicides.I know this is a couple years old, but West Virginia had twice as many gun deaths as St. Louis in 2023.
Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality
www.cdc.gov
Good news for the Louis, looks like violent crime was down last year.
Kansas City closes 2023 with record homicide count; St. Louis reports about 20% reduction
Kansas City, Missouri, reported a record homicide tally in 2023, while a significant drop was reported in St. Louis on the opposite end of the Show-Me State.www.foxnews.com
I recently drove through WV's capitol and it reminded me of the backdrops in the miniseries Chernobyl.75% of gun deaths in wv are suicides.
So bad. Towns are awful. And it’s a naturally beautiful stateI recently drove through WV's capitol and it reminded me of the backdrops in the miniseries Chernobyl.
Oof.
A girlfriend in college had family around Morgantown. It was the most beautiful worst place to spend Christmas.I recently drove through WV's capitol and it reminded me of the backdrops in the miniseries Chernobyl.
Oof.
There’s a funny documentary the wonderful wild whites of West Virginia. Johnny Knoxville did it. The prosecutor of the county they lived in said at any one time half of the entire criminal docket for the co is the white familyA girlfriend in college had family around Morgantown. It was the most beautiful worst place to spend Christmas.
I had to go to Warsaw, IN twice for a college gf. What a ride. Weirdest family I've ever been around.A girlfriend in college had family around Morgantown. It was the most beautiful worst place to spend Christmas.
I've got a couple of buddies from Warsaw and it's not that far away from where I grew up anyway. All the J&J, Biomet and Zimmer money up there just adds more gas on the fire.I had to go to Warsaw, IN twice for a college gf. What a ride. Weirdest family I've ever been around.
She married a state trooper if that tells you anything.
Great story about finding out some family info that was probably better left unsaid. Maybe I'll share it here at some point.
There’s a funny documentary the wonderful wild whites of West Virginia. Johnny Knoxville did it. The prosecutor of the county they lived in said at any one time half of the entire criminal docket for the co is the white family
Except there is more gun violence in rural areas than urban….The issue is the left focuses on gun control without asking for responsibility and accountability. From defunding the police to the bail project. So you take the most dangerous city in America. 97 percent of shootings will involve blacks. Is it a gun problem or a black problem? Back out blacks and there are a negligible amount of shootings. But the left will never ask for that accountability Bc it’s incongruent with victimhood and vote pandering.
If you’re in West Virginia or St Charles co you’re thinking wtf. I have to have greater gun control bc urban blacks are shooting like crazy?
No because there are shootings at churches, at concerts, at theaters. Nonsense about gun control. Yep just keep counting the bodies of our children because everyone in America thinks they have the right to own assault weapons. Thoughts and prayers does the trick.These shootings matter & those don’t enough to merit rage, or even discussion….got it.🙄. The good news with that mindset is more folks will focus on school safety as opposed to the guns themselves. I agree, let’s spend more to make schools safe & forget all this nonsense about guns in communities in general .
No groups love shootings like blacks? That’s pretty bad….even for you trying to stir the pot.Gunman kills 2 at a St. Louis high school, officials say
Police say a 19-year-old former student killed a teacher and a 15-year-old student at the Central Visual and Performing Arts High School. The gunman was pronounced dead after a gunfight with authorities.www.nbcnews.com
No group loves shootings like blacks. But the Dems hate it. I mean how many youth black parties involve mass shootings. Schools. Funerals. Mercy
Zeke. Open your mind. Think. 125,000 blacks in the city kill more than 2 million people living in West Virginia. Think.Except there is more gun violence in rural areas than urban….
Map of gun deaths shows cities have lower rates than rural counties in the U.S.
The most rural counties had a 37% higher rate of firearm deaths than the most urban counties from 2011 to 2020, an analysis found.www.nbcnews.com
Zeke I know about this stuff. And if you refuse to think try to learn. The actual stats are available. From law enforcementNo groups love shootings like blacks? That’s pretty bad….even for you trying to stir the pot.
Why shouldn’t suicide count? Isn’t that a gun death?Those stats include suicides, at least for West Virginia. You can find those same numbers along with stats that says almost 3/4 are attributable to suicide. So you need to divide that 300 figure by 4 to get the number murdered.
Didn't look at the numbers for St Louis but if that 196 is strictly homicide deaths, then McM's assertion is correct.
(ETA: Although I don't think the color of the shooter is the story here but chasing rabbits down holes....)
Well of course because there are more people in the city, there are going to be more shootings. That’s why you go by percentages.Zeke. Open your mind. Think. 125,000 blacks in the city kill more than 2 million people living in West Virginia. Think.
if someone wants to kill themselves, they’ll find a way.Why shouldn’t suicide count? Isn’t that a gun death?
Listen to me. 125,000 blacks in stl commit more murders than 2 million people living in the entire state of West Virginia. Think about that. This is a culture problem. Pretending it doesn’t exist serves no one.Well of course because there are more people in the city, there are going to be more shootings. That’s why you go by percentages.
Well it does serve some, which is why the left keeps stepping over dollars to pick up nickels as it relates to gun deaths. Confronting reality is waaay too uncomfortable & might cost some votes.Listen to me. 125,000 blacks in stl commit more murders than 2 million people living in the entire state of West Virginia. Think about that. This is a culture problem. Pretending it doesn’t exist serves no one.
I think you misunderstood.Well of course because there are more people in the city, there are going to be more shootings. That’s why you go by percentages.
YupWell it does serve some, which is why the left keeps stepping over dollars to pick up nickels as it relates to gun deaths. Confronting reality is waaay too uncomfortable & might cost some votes.
Let's remove all the shootings you find acceptable. The ones where black people are killed. That still means the US has the most gun violence among 1st/2nd world nations.It’s always about race. Remove black violent crime and we barely have a violent crime issue in America. Media should be emphasizing that. Biden should be emphasizing that. But….
And the attendant consequence of same destroy cities. White flight etc
So what you're saying is because fewer kids died in schools shootings than innocent kids on the street, you're OK with it.I'm sorry you lost someone like that. Terrible.
Your extrapolation based on your own experience though is an illogical way to approach this analysis.
Young children in big city poor areas catch strays too often. They are innocent.
Here are some stats:
Between 2000-2021, less than 200 people died in school shootings, from K-college.
Yet in 2022 alone, 306 children, 11 or under, were killed by gun violence. Nineteen of those were Ulvalde, so remove those and add to the 200 above). I think it's safe to assume a very high percentage of those children left were "innocent" and a significant fraction were inner city youth.
More than 6,000 children killed, hurt by gunfire in 2022: Report
More than 6,000 children have been killed or injured in the United States by gunfire.abcnews.go.com
So the average number of deaths per year from school shootings, over a 10 year period, is 10. I'm going to bet more than 10 innocent children are dying from inner city shootings, making it just as problematic as the school shootings.
School shootings get more press coverage for a variety of reasons, though, unassociated with race. They are intentional, where the stray bullet scenario is not. They are difficult for us to comprehend, whereas we have an ability to relate gangland activity to stories we've seen or heard. And for middle class and up people, we feel we can avoid the poorer areas and so feel like we have a semblance of control over the issue, whereas psychologically we feel helpless about school shootings.
A deeper argument for more gun control.no 75% of gun deaths in wv are suicides.
Lol they’ll do it a different way. And you can never have a deeper argument. Only superficial congruent with your understanding of issuesA deeper argument for more gun control.
This is one of those posts of yours where proper capitalization would be really helpful.
Has anyone ever seen them in the same room together?He’s going the way of igw… hopefully the dry spell is just temporary
Why shouldn’t suicide count? Isn’t that a gun death?
@mcmurtry66 is dropping some inconvenient truths. White gun deaths are by and large suicide and black gun deaths are more attributable to murder.
The disparity in how black, white men die by guns
A new study turns a spotlight on how black and white men in America experience rates of firearm homicide and suicide differently, and by state.www.google.com
CNN article that is a little older but I would bet that the data still holds true. The gun homicide rate for black men is 29.12 per 100,000 and 2.1 per 100,000 for white men.
For comparison:
The US gun homicide rate is 26 times that of other high-income countries.
everytownresearch.org
The 2.1 rate is still higher than Europe but it is pretty clear what drags our numbers completely out of whack.
Now you can have your disagreements about why this large disparity exists in the US but there is a disparity and it is, by and large, young black men that make our gun murder rate so bad. I don't believe you can address that problem if you aren't willing to admit it exists.
I keep forgetting you are incapable of having a rational, civilized debate. I’ll try not to forget that in the future.So what you're saying is because fewer kids died in schools shootings than innocent kids on the street, you're OK with it.
Got it.