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How do you deal with Islam?

BradStevens said:
I'm not afraid to admit I'm ignorant of something.

Is there a culture of rape in Islam or fundamentalist Islam? Is rape a big problem (compared to other places) in Middle Eastern Muslim nations?

A culture can be bad, or backward, or evil w/r/t one thing, without being so w/r/t all things.
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I’ll keep posting

 
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JamieDimonsBalls said:
Is it like China where Chaoqing goes by James?
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Of course lol. I really do like them tho. I’ll never forget early on I ordered a couple hundred samples and they included these real fancy bags for each product with our company name and logo and Pakistan written under it.

I messaged those bags are just garbage so you know. You put fcking Pakistan on them.

Oh yes father. I understand. No one wants to see that.

🤣🤣. They do get it
 
BradStevens said:
You have to compare it to the numbers from other identity groups. I know you know this.

Here's a start, but nothing definitive:

The Impact of Racialization on Muslim Survivors of Sexual Violence

Executive Director for HEART Women & Girls, Nadiah Mohajir, writes about how anti-Blackness, patriarchy, and islamophobia directly impact the experience of Muslim survivors.
www.nsvrc.org www.nsvrc.org
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Compare it to numbers and then you link a puff piece about anti-racism and Islamaphobia?
 
JamieDimonsBalls said:
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Compare it to numbers and then you link a puff piece about anti-racism and Islamaphobia?
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If a site like that is reporting the following, you can use it as evidence for your position, even if it's not definitive:

While the research on the prevalence of sexual violence and reporting in Muslim communities is limited, studies indicate that the prevalence of sexual violence in Muslim communities is similar, or slightly higher. Moreover, there is reason to believe that the likelihood of choosing not to report sexual violence is significantly higher in communities of faith and color.

By the way, I know what I'm getting you next year for Christmas:

The Sex Talk Book: A Muslim’s Guide to Healthy Sex & Relationships | HEART

A self-guided reflection workbook for Muslims to break the ice around uncomfortable conversations and create safe, healthy relationships. Many young Muslims arrive to adulthood without a strong understanding of sex education or how to navigate healthy relationships. A lot of times, this leads to...
hearttogrow.org hearttogrow.org
 
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BradStevens said:
If a site like that is reporting the following, you can use it as evidence for your position, even if it's not definitive:

While the research on the prevalence of sexual violence and reporting in Muslim communities is limited, studies indicate that the prevalence of sexual violence in Muslim communities is similar, or slightly higher. Moreover, there is reason to believe that the likelihood of choosing not to report sexual violence is significantly higher in communities of faith and color.

By the way, I know what I'm getting you next year for Christmas:

The Sex Talk Book: A Muslim’s Guide to Healthy Sex & Relationships | HEART

A self-guided reflection workbook for Muslims to break the ice around uncomfortable conversations and create safe, healthy relationships. Many young Muslims arrive to adulthood without a strong understanding of sex education or how to navigate healthy relationships. A lot of times, this leads to...
hearttogrow.org hearttogrow.org
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No you can't. None of the links even work to see the underlying data - the studies one literally brings you to the sex tax book. Don't claim I need to show data and then use a non-data driven argument. I posted correlation between Islam and higher prevalence of sexual violence in the U.K.

Look at the Federal Criminal Police Office reports on crime in 2022 and 2017. Both indicate a meaningful correlation between migrants and sexual offenses.
 
JamieDimonsBalls said:
No you can't. None of the links even work to see the underlying data - the studies one literally brings you to the sex tax book. Don't claim I need to show data and then use a non-data driven argument. I posted correlation between Islam and higher prevalence of sexual violence in the U.K.

Look at the Federal Criminal Police Office reports on crime in 2022 and 2017. Both indicate a meaningful correlation between migrants and sexual offenses.
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I think you're missing this. That post helps your argument.

That write up comes from a source you yourself admit would be one that would be downplaying any link between Muslims and higher rates of sexual assault, right?

They claim to rely on data, and yet say that the rates might be "slightly higher." That's an admission in the favor of the argument you want to make. Then, it says that under reporting is probably more prevalent in Muslim communities and communities "of color." Again, that is an admission in favor of your argument.

Now, I agree with you it isn't very strong evidence and that I wouldn't base a conclusion on it. But it is at least different than anecdotal tweets.
 
I've held onto this for awhile (it's a 2019 article) and I'm purging my files so I figure this thread is where it belongs...

This is what they teach their children Here in the US... Imagine what they teach them overseas...

www.foxnews.com

Shocking video of children in Philadelphia Muslim Society: 'We will chop off their heads' for Allah

Disturbing footage of Muslim kids saying they would sacrifice themselves and kill for the "army of Allah" surfaced from an Islamic center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

In my opinion it's a political movement masquerading as a religion with the end goal of dominating the entire planet... The fact that you can't question it without being marked for death ought to tell the sane among us all we need to know...
 
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76-1 said:
I've held onto this for awhile (it's a 2019 article) and I'm purging my files so I figure this thread is where it belongs...

This is what they teach their children Here in the US... Imagine what they teach them overseas...

www.foxnews.com

Shocking video of children in Philadelphia Muslim Society: 'We will chop off their heads' for Allah

Disturbing footage of Muslim kids saying they would sacrifice themselves and kill for the "army of Allah" surfaced from an Islamic center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

In my opinion it's a political movement masquerading as a religion with the end goal of dominating the entire planet... They fact that you can't question it without being marked for death ought to tell the sane among us all we need to know...
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When your religion wasn’t created until 7th century……. sorry, you missed the boat.

You’re a fake. A fraud. A grifter.

Then you have the temerity claim the holy land of actual ancient religions as your own. Needless to say it boils the blood.

Bring back the crusades. Not this namby pamby Iraq and Afghanistan nonsense. A true cleansing of Islam at home and abroad. The peaceful will be given the opportunity to convert. The uncooperative will go to meet their virgins.
 
GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly said:
When your religion wasn’t created until 7th century……. sorry, you missed the boat.

You’re a fake. A fraud. A grifter.

Then you have the temerity claim the holy land of actual ancient religions as your own. Needless to say it boils the blood.

Bring back the crusades. Not this namby pamby Iraq and Afghanistan nonsense. A true cleansing of Islam at home and abroad. The peaceful will be given the opportunity to convert. The uncooperative will go to meet their virgins.
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Damn, you sound as deranged as them.
 
IUINSB said:
Damn, you sound as deranged as them.
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This intractable conflict in the Middle East….. Jews, Muslims, when will it end?

Only when we once again claim the Holy Land for Christendom. Akin to a couple siblings squabbling over a toy, sometimes the parent has to step in and say if you can’t learn to play nice, neither of you get the toy.

Agreed?
 
JamieDimonsBalls said:
No you can't. None of the links even work to see the underlying data - the studies one literally brings you to the sex tax book. Don't claim I need to show data and then use a non-data driven argument. I posted correlation between Islam and higher prevalence of sexual violence in the U.K.

Look at the Federal Criminal Police Office reports on crime in 2022 and 2017. Both indicate a meaningful correlation between migrants and sexual offenses.
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Sweden would as well.

The inconvenient truth in our multicultural pluralistic societies is that you cannot import this many people who have a culture diametrically opposed to yours in a short amount of time. When you couple that with the modern West's forced belief that all cultures are equal and an over tolerance of bad behavior from people because of the color of their skin or where they came from you end up with the issues we are seeing across Europe.

People are people. Cultures are not. Multiculturalism only works when a dominant culture is enforced. When you allow all the differences to infiltrate into the secular public, they naturally come in conflict with one another. The more militant and transient culture wins out in that case.

The Europeans shouldn't be jailing and/or deporting the criminals. They should be hanging them. They should be sending the Syrians and Afghans back to their countries. The Civil Wars are over. Go home.
 
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