Yes there are other good coaches but that doesn't mean they want to be coach at IU. It ain't the mecca of basketball and hasn't been for years-dgecades!!! TJD tried to bring it back but Woodson has torn all that down. Get real!!! Beard is a good coach and it wasn't proven in court that he did what you say. So you must be a guilty before being proven innocent type of guy. Woodson needs gone sooner than later. He's in a rapid descent and is taking IU with him.
Hire Beard
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Pick your poison if you go for a big name hire: Beard, domestic violence, which I believe he was cleared of; Pearl, recruiting violations and asst coach paying players, Pitino...too much to list. I am sure there are more examples. I think any big name is going to come with serious baggage and ego. An up and coming may be cleaner but is hit or miss. So my point is...nevermind.
I don’t disagree but the bottom line is:
You better get your two cash cow hires right.
There are 24 sports and only two pay the bills.
I’m also on record that Yeagley Jr. is a bust. Highly overrated. Now, fire away……😊
Agree on Jr. Probably a solid coach, but other schools are bringing in semi-professionals from all over the world.
Meanwhile, we get the St. Louis kids (no offense @mcmurtry66 )
Indiana is going to have to hire a big name coach and pay a mega salary to turn things around. This would be somebody who can coach and recruit. The problem therein lies that he becomes a cult of personality within the university - the exact thing the administration wanted to avoid after Coach Knight.
The other option is to hire a really solid coach and build a program over time. This is probably the way to go. The days of mega dominance are over. Just look at UNC and Kentucky who continue to struggle to find their footing, despite insistence at producing championships.
The other option is to hire a really solid coach and build a program over time. This is probably the way to go. The days of mega dominance are over. Just look at UNC and Kentucky who continue to struggle to find their footing, despite insistence at producing championships.
Did you listen to Sleepers? Not sure what your opinion of those guys are (I only agreed with about half of what they had to say), but they never mentioned Cronin and they mentioned Buzz Williams, Porter Mosier and John Calipari.
Good post.
Beard is sort of in love with the 6'5" tough scoring guards out there. I'm pretty I sure IU just let a guy like that slip and land at UConn.
Beard also has some Indiana connections in the HS coaching ranks already. I think he would do well on the recruiting road in a basketball rich state.
All this talk about police reports and what might have happened behind closed doors is PTSD stuff and better for the non-basketball forum.
Focus on coaching. I like Beard because he could win a championship at IU. I like May because of his energy and ties to IU and his ability to win with a brand new team. I don't like Cronin because he makes excuses about why he isn't quite good enough. He would be a bad fit at Indiana.
Gotta get a coach who wins the toughest games. Dusty went to the FF with zero pros on the team. Now he is thriving in the Big Ten. Beard has a complete zero program in Mississippi competing in the SEC. Can't blame him for wanting to get out of there.
Focus on coaching. I like Beard because he could win a championship at IU. I like May because of his energy and ties to IU and his ability to win with a brand new team. I don't like Cronin because he makes excuses about why he isn't quite good enough. He would be a bad fit at Indiana.
Gotta get a coach who wins the toughest games. Dusty went to the FF with zero pros on the team. Now he is thriving in the Big Ten. Beard has a complete zero program in Mississippi competing in the SEC. Can't blame him for wanting to get out of there.
Probably from UCLA fans who want to get rid of him
My hope is this..........Consider....Dolson was not concerned about the opinions of others when he selected Coach Cignetti to coach our football team. He saw a winner and hired him. Beard is clearly a winner so I think Dolson will absolutely consider him. Just hire Beard and let's start winning again. Those that want to crucify him for what you think you know of his past probably should take a look in the mirror.
But his teams score 70+ points for an outdated offense. What’s outdated is your hate for Beard. You’re probably one that wants McCollum or Bennett and their slow ass boring offensive efficiency.
Beard also has not had a platform to get guys on that kind of level. What seperates him, in my opinion, is the fact I can't see him talent chasing dudes who will not buy in. With NIL he will get guys he has bever been able to touch, without compromising what he wants in a player. I am not getting into his history off the court, but there is 0 doubt he would win, and win big at IU. None of the other guys who are in the running are as sure fire as him, and that may be why his name is coming back around. The early smoke was all the interest, and that speculation is b.s. Stevens, May, Cronin, Drew, Otzelberger, etc are out. Either Dolson makes a reach or he doesn't. Nobody knows how a McCollum, Brownell, McDermott or Williams would do. Time will tell with the hire, but ultimately it may be 2-3 years before we know what this coaching change brings. Starting to feel like UK and Louisville search.
Beard is too masculine for incels.
I’ll take McCollum over all of them. It’s amazing how his teams “offensive efficiency” seems to beat everyone else. Maybe it has to do a lot with his team’s defensive efficiency too. I hope Dolson wants (as well as most of us I’d assume) want an inspired, committed, winning program like IU was and should be.
McCollum doesn't meet the requirements also has the worse tempo no way we hire a guys tempo who mimics Archie and Woodsons offense.
Hmm, forget Indiana for a second.
Here’s a hypothetical;
You are a coach for a top 5 team. The school you are at is not historically a top 25 program, nor is it even a household name as far as CBB goes.
You are offered a job at KY or UNC, and they are going to triple your salary. But, you are comfortable where you are money wise. UNC and KY fans are convinced you are coming because they have top 5 programs, unlimited NIL and championships are assumed.
If being part of a winning team is your top goal what do you do?
Keep in mind, you have a top 5 team right now. Wouldn’t staying where you are give you the safest odds of winning a natty or two?
Why are we always saying build it over time. Geez - other schools have already shown you can flip it in a year. Same old mediocre mentality.
Kinda like the one that won three national championships and made TTU relevant?
Drake would be dead last in the Big Ten. The thing about McCollum is he has to adapt to big time basketball in terms of recruiting. It probably would be fine, but it's an adjustment. Doesn't work for every coach.
It's been 6 years since Beard's run to the Final 4. Here's how he compares to the "other guys who are in the running" over those past six years.
The list below is not my list, but the guys who are active coaches on the other thread with the poll (link to the poll below).
The "Other" is a coach a short list coach I picked. (https://indiana.forums.rivals.com/threads/who-will-be-iu’s-next-basketball-coach.251474/)
| COACH | OVERALL WIN % | CONFERENCE WIN % |
| MCCOLLUM | 90 | 90 |
| DREW | 76 | 70 |
| BENNETT | 74 | 73 |
| MCDERMOTT | 70 | 70 |
| OTHER | 69 | 77 |
| BEARD | 65 | 51 |
| ALFORD | 65 | 57 |
| OTZELBERGER | 63 | 57 |
If he had been killing it at drake for three years I'd feel better. But just one season makes it a risky hire no matter what he did in d2. Dolson 100% has to get this hire right.
I agree he needs to get it right. My point with the original comment is that saying that Beard is the ONLY sure fire pick is ignoring the past 6 years.
Bogus comparison, apples, oranges and pickles all over the place
What's bogus about it? It's simply the performance of everyone on the poll for the past 6 years. Math too hard?
Or is it because McCollum coached D2? Then take him off. It still doesn't change the fact that the original commenter said the only "sure fire" pick is Beard. That data suggests otherwise.
