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Yep. And my positions change and evolve the more I learn about them. Currently, the more I watch Beards teams play, the less I think he’s worth the obvious risks in hiring him. Maybe that's "shade"? Or maybe its observations on what I'm seeing actually watching his teams play. His record and parts of his resume are impressive. And what he was able to put together that first offseason at Texas, talent wise, was also impressive, similar to what he's been able to do at Ole Miss. But since that Natty game... he's barely over .500 in his conference games, and hasn't made a sweet 16. Didn't exactly cash in on those 2 great Texas Tech seasons. And then obviously, the only time he was in a position anywhere near what IU's would be...he had the incident and was fired. He's proven he's capable. He also has risks. My opinion is the risks aren't worth what his ENTIRE coaching resume says he is. I started this whole "search" mindset thinking it was ALL about his DV issues...without them he'd be a homerun, can't miss, candidate. After much digging on the basketball side, while I still think he'd succeed at IU...I don't think its as certain as many make it out to be.
Conversely, the more I watch Michigan play, and the more I read about May, the more I like him as our next coach.
Brownell…I haven’t said much, other than his resume pre NIL/Portal is mediocre. And that he’d be an improvement to what we’ve had the last 8 years or so. His record for most of his tenure at Clemson isn’t impressive, at all, and that’s taking in to account that I’m sure it is more difficult for him to succeed there than it would have been at a number of other ACC teams. But his average finish, over his 14 full seasons in the ACC is 7th -8th. He's had a similar ACC run to Leonard Hamilton...but with less NCAA tournament success.
I look at Brownell in a similar light at Painter. How many teams had MP on their radar after his first 6-7 seasons? Now he is considered one of the best in the game, but it sure took him awhile to get there. Not sure why it has taken BB 12-14 years to find this success, but he is on a roll the past few years and deserves a hard look as a 2nd tier candidate.
Not sure I'd say last "few" years.
They were 11-9 in a down ACC last year...and then yes, he did have a good tournament run.
And then he has them playing really well this year. We'll see how they finish up.
Before that...lots of missed NCAAs, higher seed first round losses...
Brownell is a solid coach. It would be interesting to see what he could do at IU. But its always seemed strange to me that his name comes up as much as it does. Evidently for some, its not because he has IU people and geography ties. But I suspect, by and large, that's a big reason for it. His resume, until the last month of last season, and then this season, sure doesn't warrant it.
maybe you're just trolling the PU folks (which I applaud btw!), but Painter is way more accomplished and proven than Brownell.
Because we used to care about ethics. We used to be proud of having a clean program. I know colleg basketball has changed a lot. I’d still prefer to stay away from coaches we know have major issues. If you want to call that morally elite , that’s your choice.
He knows a lot about coaching. He knows little about ethics and morality.
If you need moral and ethical guidance from a basketball coach…….. you need to put your own life in order before chastising others.
It isn't...but it sure isn't necessary to hire one for your basketball coach. I'm not even sure its established that Beard is, or was, an alcoholic?? If I knew that, I'd be even more adamant he shouldn't be considered. AND I'd feel badly for him, and hope he always has the support and help he needs to stay out ahead of it. But IU certainly isn't the place for someone with alcohol issues. Obviously.
and again, that's not for you, or I, or zeke to determine. It's for Scott Dolson. The talk that bothers me is that they won't even consider him. Knight? I hear he has a bad temper...
Just get him a driver. The man can coach. Gordon Bombay had a drinking problem. What did Mr. Ducksworth do? He got him a driver and everything worked out well. Do it Scott.
If Beard isn’t an option, perhaps we oughta seriously consider trying to make a play for Pitino. He’s clearly got some latent interest to make a comment like this. Or maybe we could resurrect good ‘ol Bob Huggins and get him in here just to really stick it to all you puritanical assholes. Or maybe just go with the guy who even a committee of Helen Keller, Ray Charles, and Stevie Wonder could tell you is the best coach currently available, Chris Beard.
If Knight were available today and it was known he had previously put his hands on a players throat, the same people would be here saying he should not be considered.
All we have is a police report. There are only two people who know the real circumstances of what happened that evening. And charges come from the state, the fiances desire to not see him prosecuted is immaterial. The state saw fit not to prosecute.
He’s a father to three daughters who seem to adore him. He took the Texas job to be closer to them. He’s never had another incident like this to anyone’s knowledge. No accusations of emotional or physical in his divorce papers.
I’ve made my stance clear. If not us, it will be another high major. I bet Kansas is licking their chops should Self decide to retire soon.
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You know what. I think Indiana fans are too judgmental and act all high and mighty.
I dated a chick once who would get drunk and turn into a complete demon. She beat the daylights out of two women in a bar one night until I pulled her off...in doing so she turned on me and scratched my face. So nightmare night...we get pulled over on the way home when she jumps out of the car at a stop sign.
You guessed it...three more cruisers and "maam are you safe" then pulled us apart to get our stories.
Luckily for me she confirmed that I hadn't abused her, but she could have made false claims that night and made my life hell.
So yea, I can see Beard as coach.
You guessed it...three more cruisers and "maam are you safe" then pulled us apart to get our stories.
Luckily for me she confirmed that I hadn't abused her, but she could have made false claims that night and made my life hell.
So yea, I can see Beard as coach.
I have spent much time around Beard. Your take is laughable
