Ahhh, now I see why you were making irrelevant comments. Nothing to add.
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Hire Beard
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I would possibly entertain Cronin as I think he might have an itch to get back to the Midwest. Has voiced his displeasures with UCLA's NIL situation publicly on more than one occasion as well as cross-country flights every other week. I thought he was a dead man walking after publicly shaming his players a few weeks ago, but naturally they responded positively and are one of the hottest teams in the country right now.
Would be tough to walk away from Westwood right now but IU can offer everything he would be looking for.
You could say the same thing about Kentucky last offseason and look where they ended up. Kentucky fans have soured immensely on Pope in the last week.
Just wildly fascinated by the crew jerking off in the corner over Chris Beard. Not sure if you're the ring leader or just cleaning up other's messes.
Don't type 0%...you have no idea if that's true. But for sure, obviously, very low percentages. And Dolson would be negligent for not "trying" with some of those top tier guys.
Take Jans off the list then... for sure.
So...if your odds are close to accurate...
May
McCollum
DeVries
Byington
Calhoun
That's 5 guys, with varying degrees of likelihood, that would all be enormous upgrades over our current coach...and all worth firing Woodson, and hiring them. And again, that's a google search, and off the top of my keyboard jockey head... They, obviously, have much deeper connections, abilities, information, etc...
I don't get this negativity and pushback on all these coaching lists. Even if it is an unproven guy like McCollum...the alternative is keeping Woodson. So what the hell are we arguing about here?
Just saw an article that said Iowa is looking at DeVries as the heir apparent to Fran.
Problem with this, you start whiffing on top guys like this you're going to get taken to the woodshed by other coach/agents leveraging the IU job as you get more and more desperate. And then you probability of hiring a quality guy only decreases.
No one is disputing he's a really good coach.
You didn't go to IU so I wouldn't expect you to understand.
This is where Dolson needs to earn his keep...And its not a linear type situation...You don't pursue Stevens for 5 days...move on to Pearl for 5 days...move on to Oats for a few days...on down the list.
You canvas 10-15-20 guys that you think would fit what you're looking for...pretty quickly, you should get a feel for the ones where there's any heartbeat of an interest. Pair the list down to 5-10 guys that you feel comfortable would consider it... Schedule zoom meetings with all of them... then pair the list down a little further based off those Zoom meetings....then get your ass on a plane and visit the final candidates.
I would like to assume Dolson already knows whether Stevens would consider it more this time around. So assuming Stevens is a no, as is most likely, he should already know that.
Jeezus. Where TF have you been for the other sixty or so threads about the same thing?
so you are saying IU shouldn’t hire him? Would he be hired by a company he interviewed for based off his quality resume and interview? Yes he would. The holier than though attitude is cracking me up. Beard will he at a high profile gig in next few years bank it.
Nope, they will all have the same issue with reputation damage and risk. High profile programs with valuable brands care a lot about this whether people like it or not.
I know Kurt won't want him. He loves knight
Knight liked trump. That's a big no no for kurt.
No they won’t…son no coach as ever made a mistake in their personal lives?! Should they be blackballed from coaching ever again?
He's at Ole Miss making $5M/yr, that doesn't fit the definition of blackballed.
But, what happened will limit some of his opportunities. The big brand programs won't like the reputation issues that come with hiring a guy associated with DV. You can dislike it all you want, but they won't hire him.
How freaking obtuse are you? I see maybe two people in this thread saying that they wouldn't support the hire.
Many of the folks in this thread who are alum seem to take the same approach as I do. In the unlikely event that he would be offered the job, I hope he's successful. A lot of the alum know that the optics wouldn't align with the way IU wants to be seen.
I bet Dolson gives him a look. If IU wants to stay squeaky clean, they better not look at Pearl either.
Relax Vern, just a simple question. I would think Beard would be a Hr hire for IU. Iu currently is seen an underachieving program.
I think most of "you" are lumping DV issue in with all other types of indiscretions. They are not, will not be, ever viewed in the same light as other things like paying players or whatever else might be a more bball specific issue.
Its different, obviously. I think its pretty darn unlikely that IU will choose to take on that risk...again, for the 100th time, when there are going to be other good candidates available.
St John’s hired Pitino…now they look really strong. I’m guessing a Kansas would hire Beard.
Maybe. The SEC is very good at bball, but they don't have many big time/blue blood brands. His name didn't come up in the UK search last year and a lot of names were involved there. Texas fired him for cause. Tennessee bball is pretty big... I doubt they do it given the optics with their big women's program. We shall see.
Maybe they would, maybe not? Texas sure didn't want the smoke. And it took Beard over a year to get someone to consider him...and it ended up being Ole Miss. He's pretty darn lucky they did, actually. And I strongly suspect all this is a moot point, right now, because he's a "southern dude", and he's already at a school in arguably the best conference in the country, and he probably feels gratitude to Ole Miss.
I would guess, as you have suggested, that Ole Miss did a thorough investigation into the incident and his overall background/history, and found no basis for an ongoing concern. I also agree that he very likely is not interested in leaving there so quickly, he seems to have a good thing going and there's very likely a feeling of gratitude on his part that they gave him the job.
I don't get in to the "better" comparisons... I've posted a handful of lists on guys that I think would be successful at Indiana.
Beard, obviously, has proven he's capable of making deep NCAA runs...which is very important. But he's also jumped around a lot, hasn't really shown much that he can maintain a high level program for long stretches...why is it a given that he'd stay at IU? Maybe he'd jump at the Kentucky job in a few years if it opened up, or Kansas as you mentioned? His history shows he's pretty open to jumping ship. Doesn't look like a guy that has turned down many offers before. We can't bash the IU job, saying we aren't gonna attract anyone better, and then just assume a guy that's had 6-7 head coaching jobs in 13 years would stay at IU for 8-10 years. Might as well hire Jim Crutchfield, and hope he has the energy, at age 69, to coach for 4-5 more years, if you're willing to overlook Beard's history, and take that risk on.
Long winded way of providing examples on why he isn't an obviously perfect fit...and none of that mentions his DV issue.
I'd take McCollum over Beard. And I'm much less sure I like McCollum's style than I was even a few weeks ago.
Again, the point is, IU likely doesn't care for the optics. It's really that simple. There are ad nauseum discussions on whether he really assaulted his girlfriend or not. It was enough to make Texas turn the suspension into termination.
Maybe Scott, Pam, the BOT, and the major donors pull a real shocker and say WTF, let's give it a try. I
Is this a joke? Ole Miss is such a backwards school in a backwards state with relatively little success in anything that they'd have hired him if he had been convicted of DV, not just accused of it.
Don't know anything about Ole Miss or the state but it's still a D1 state university in a major conference. They have concerns about image.
Here we go again. Do you think she bit herself and put lacerations on her face?
Ole Miss bball is more or less nothing, so they have relatively little to lose if a risky hire goes wrong.
Again. No it would not. The prosecutor is likely to drop it if the victim wants them too. And often the victim does.
You're the one jerking off something towards Chris Beard. lol. We get you. If he became the coach, just stop following.
Thanks. It’s astonishing how many guys here have zero understanding of domestic violence cases or more likley really don’t care because they think he’s a good basketball coach. It’s also very rare that domestic violence is a one time event. Combined with an alcohol problem ( which has been rumored several places and times) that’s the very last thing we need.
I wish IU had hired Pitino shen they hired Woodson. Pitino could have went for the big three ncaa titles! UK, UL & IU. But Pitino isnt like by alot around here.
No he would not. That’s why he is at Ole Miss instead of a high profile school. You think Duke would look at him? North Carolina? Kansas? Purdue for God’s sake. No, they would not.
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