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Other boards have alleged insiders claiming Stevens will be the next coach.
They didn’t say that. They know 9-10 million a year for ten years has been funded. They know Trilly hasn’t heard a thing from his usual guys. He does not have any NBA contracts though. It’s people assuming it’s not a current coach. They only say Dolson has his man.
 
They didn’t say that. They know 9-10 million a year for ten years has been funded. They know Trilly hasn’t heard a thing from his usual guys. He does not have any NBA contracts though. It’s people assuming it’s not a current coach. They only say Dolson has his man.
They say he may have his man. No one knows. I still say if Stevens was out Dolson would certainly crush those rumors right away.
 
They say he may have his man. No one knows. I still say if Stevens was out Dolson would certainly crush those rumors right away.
Could be. I think a lot could be said in keeping Brad's name alive, though. If he's a legitimate candidate, that adds some "class" to the search. Kind of like a recruiting rankings bump that comes after Duke offers a kid. And Stevens doesn't really have to face media scrutiny or anything, and Dolson won't talk much at all about the search until the season is over, I'm sure.
 
Could be. I think a lot could be said in keeping Brad's name alive, though. If he's a legitimate candidate, that adds some "class" to the search. Kind of like a recruiting rankings bump that comes after Duke offers a kid. And Stevens doesn't really have to face media scrutiny or anything, and Dolson won't talk much at all about the search until the season is over, I'm sure.
Why not? If Stevens is the guy, and the deal is done, why not announce it? Could only benefit recruiting.
 
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Not necessarily. All the noise we are hearing isn’t from IU side. I bet it’s going to be a quiet few weeks.
It’s coming from somewhere. The “insiders” are saying Dolson has been having discussions with Brad since Thanksgiving. That’s either true or false. If true we have a good shot at landing him. If not that means we reached out and he’s not interested. If the latter there’s no scenario where Dolson wants this speculation to linger. He’d leak something to Rabby or Ostermann and put that rumor to bed. The fan base is already completely demoralized.
 
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It starts to make more sense as the bigger name, more proven guys, turn you down. I don't know how far "down" the list I'd have to get before McCollum starts to become more and more viable...but probably not far.

And if other "blue blood" searches are any sort of precursor...we could be in that situation.

UK...without question a "bigger" job than IU. They ended up landing on low/mid major guy in Pope...no P4 experience.
UL...I'd say probably not quite as big as IU, but probably pretty close in terms of prestige and resources. They landed on a low major guy, that had no P4 experience.
Arizona... Similar to IU in most ways... they landed on an assistant coach from Gonzaga.
Villanova...picked Kyle Neptune to succeed Wright...and haven't canned him despite them falling WAY off what they had been used to.

I love IU...I think they have all the best of everything, that "should" lure an impressive list of candidates...I just don't know why IU would when the other schools I listed didnt.

So...if we're seeing what those schools did...names like Stevens, Oats, Pearl, and even Beard...aren't likely viable. After such a list...I think McCollum absolutely makes a ton of sense.
After Brad and Beard your list is very underwhelming until you get to McCollum.
 
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How much does a president of an NBA ball club really do in season and after the trade deadline? If it's Stevens it will be announced immediately after our season. If not then it's someone who is still coacyh in tournaments. Either way by that point the decision will have been made.
 
Dolson has to know exactly where he stands with Stevens. If Stevens is out I would expect Dolson to leak something out to temper expectations. Last time we thought we might get him and we ended up with Mike freaking Woodson. They can’t afford another gut punch like that.
That's wasn't a gut punch. That was a sucker punch right in family jewels.
 
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BYU was a mid major, until last season. But technically, you're right, he did have a year at a P4 school under his belt.

Kinda like Darian DeVries type resume. I think it still proves the premise of my point.
Huge difference though in the mountain west vs D2 and 1 year at Drake for McCollum
 
I am not sold on McCollum at this level. Not sure top 10 level talent would want to play in that pedestrian offensive system.
To be honest this is going to be an issue with any DII or lower DI program coach. Hasn't prove it at a high level, relative unknown with recruits. NIL will compensate up to a point I guess but top players will be more drawn to proven successful coaches.
 
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Sleepers discussion about some of the oft-mentioned prospects here. Greg says "he's hearing" Beard is interested and would like the job, and that IU admin is considering. No idea if he has any sources, but he seems to me to be a fairly reasonable guy. Of course he's flip-floped on if he'd want May to IU 3-4x in the last 6 months or so.

 
If it is, I'd bet its already done and decided.
I think so, too. Dolson saw the writing on the wall in bold print. The ink may not be dry, but it's a done deal, just too early to squeal for the distractions it would create. Somewhere, someone is making a toast and clinking a glass with Scott Dolson.
 
To be honest this is going to be an issue with any DII or lower DI program coach. Hasn't prove it at a high level, relative unknown with recruits. NIL will compensate up to a point I guess but top players will be more drawn to proven successful coaches.
This is all conventional, and likely wrong, conjecture.

Louisville had zero issues landing guys like Chuckie Hepburn, with an "unproven" coach.

Mark Pope had incredible success landing guys like Butler, Brea, and Williams, despite being a relative unknown, coaching wise, at BYU.

McCollum very well might struggle to get elite level players, but it won't be because he's only coached at Northwest Missouri and Drake. Everyone will know what the "IU" on his clothes means, and they'll know their NIL checks will cash.

It would come down to whether or not he can connect with them, and whether or not they believe his style and system suits them. And when they're watching film of that, it won't matter that hes showing D2 and lower D1 film to them, to explain how they'd fit in his offense, and show them how good of defenders they'll become.
 
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I think so, too. Dolson saw the writing on the wall in bold print. The ink may not be dry, but it's a done deal, just too early to squeal for the distractions it would create. Somewhere, someone is making a toast and clinking a glass with Scott Dolson.
If not...we're down to where guys like McCollum are being evaluated still.
 
Iowa doesn’t even want to hire him lol
If Fran is done at years end...I would be shocked if McCollum isn't a leading candidate for the job. Along with McDermott maybe, and/or DeVries.

Couldn't possibly be more of a contrast to Fran...but maybe that's what they'll be looking for?
 
If Fran is done at years end...I would be shocked if McCollum isn't a leading candidate for the job. Along with McDermott maybe, and/or DeVries.

Couldn't possibly be more of a contrast to Fran...but maybe that's what they'll be looking for?
Wouldn't you be looking for a contrast to Fran?
 
Dolson has to know exactly where he stands with Stevens. If Stevens is out I would expect Dolson to leak something out to temper expectations. Last time we thought we might get him and we ended up with Mike freaking Woodson. They can’t afford another gut punch like that.
I don't see why he needs to leak it, I don't hear anyone expecting it to be Stevens. If I even hear anyone mention his name, it's with the caveat: "ok to call him and make him say no, but he's not leaving Beantown to come to Btown".
 
I don't see why he needs to leak it, I don't hear anyone expecting it to be Stevens. If I even hear anyone mention his name, it's with the caveat: "ok to call him and make him say no, but he's not leaving Beantown to come to Btown".
Rabby has him #1 on his hot board. The guys in BtB act like it’s a done deal.
 
No offense, but the last time we went through a coaching change, EVERY time someone came on here with a "the guys on BtB said 'fill in the blank' was a "done deal" they were wrong. I would take that with a shipping container of salt.
Brad was the only one. Yes they ended up being wrong. It happens.
 
If Fran is done at years end...I would be shocked if McCollum isn't a leading candidate for the job. Along with McDermott maybe, and/or DeVries.

Couldn't possibly be more of a contrast to Fran...but maybe that's what they'll be looking for?
Devries will be the target most likely but does he leave WVU to come back to Iowa? Idk
 
Let those names on the rumor mill deny interest. The less Dolson speaks the better. It keeps all the “experts” talking about IU and throwing names out there.

While it’d be much better to be talking about what seed line IU would be on, it’s all we have at this point. No idea who it will be, but this topic has in less than a week, garnered way more air time nationwide than I anticipated.
 
UK...without question a "bigger" job than IU. They ended up landing on low/mid major guy in Pope...no P4 experience.

I know that many UK fans say that they like Pope as their coach. We'll see. Granted, he's much more likeable than the Squid, but how much runway are they willing to give him? To say that the jury is still out would be a big-time understatement. His next NCAAT win will be his first. Let's see how much the Kentucky goofs like him after he fails to advance in the NCAAT two years in a row.
 
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