ANNNNNNND as of this time, aloha has not responded to Shrooms report. ... hmmm
He did like 3 posts above yours.
ANNNNNNND as of this time, aloha has not responded to Shrooms report. ... hmmm
Yea, his "trigger" has always went off much quicker than mine.He did like e posts above yours.
Yea, his "trigger" has always went off much quicker than mine.
rear Admiral Gilligan's alleged sense of honor has principles...I believe you're a fraud, so I doubt that what I'm going to share with you change your opinion, but do advise.
The report that TG was placed on the TSA's "Open Skies" program came from UncoverDC. Their source is Sonya Hightower LaBosco, who has publicly gone on record confirming the truth of the allegations. Ms. LaBosco is the Executive Director of AMNC, which is a national advocacy group for Federal Air Marshals (FAMs).. She states that according to several of her members FAMs were first assigned to the Gabbard 'detail' on July 23rd, with their first flight being July 25th. Both Gabbard and her husband are on the list. As per TSA practice, neither were told that they had made the list. The original story by UndercoverDC included a photo of TG that came from the "Target Package" used by the FAMs to surveil Gabbard.
Quiet Skies focuses on suspected domestic terrorists. UndercoverDC had previously broken stories about other Quiet Skies targets. including an infant son of an individual who had attended the J6 protests, and 2 other individuals who had attended the protests or had been in DC on that date. None were ever charged with any crime. LaBosco and AMNC President David Londo have testified concerning their concerns that TSA has been violating the rights of conservatives in a "big domestic surveillance grab".
TG has stated that she and her husband found that their boarding passes were marked with "SSSS" which stands for "Quad S", the mark of the beast for TSA. She did not know why until the story came to public light, but she knew she had just lately been experiencing extensive and intrusive searches, including searched by dogs. She did not know that there were FAMs on her flight assigned to her and her husband. She said that on another flight she was unable to get through security with military ID, as she had done in the past. She inquired, and a TSA agent commented on the SSSS marker. She said the agent asked "Why are you Quad S? You're in the military" to which she replied "That's exactly what I'm wondering". It is important to note that LaBosco did not speak to Gabbard prior to the UncoverDC story being published.
On August 11th, 3 Hawaiian house representatives sent a letter accusing the TSA of including TG on the Quiet Skies watchlist, and accusing TSA of harassment of TG and her husband on multiple flights. They asked that she be withdrawn from the list immediately and that full public transparency be provided. As far as I can tell, there has been no reply.
On August 8th Congressman Tim Burchett wrote the TSA administrator requesting a meeting to discuss the report. There has been no meeting.
Congressman James Comer, Chairman of the House Oversight Committee, also sent a letter to the TSA. Comer asked that certain specific materials be delivered to the Committee, a briefing with the Committee no later than August 30th, and receipt of the documents and communications requested by September 6th. As far as I'm aware, none of that has occurred. Congressman Jim Jordan, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, has made similar demands and requests. On 8/22, Rand Paul, ranking member of the Senate Homeland Security and Govt Affairs Committee inquired about the Gabbard case and other reports of TSA abuse of the Open Skies program. He requested that relevant listed documents be delivered to the Committee by Sept. 4th. There is no indication of compliance with the request.
There has been NO denial of the allegations by the TSA. I have not seen one media report denying the allegations, although there may have been 100+ reporting them.
Admiral, are you ok with this state of affairs? How do you square it with your highly developed sense of honor?
You've become quite the little ankle biter. You must be proud. I'm still waiting for the link to the site he copied all that from. I'm wondering if it's a Russian propaganda site like the ones you visit. You didn't answer the question about whether you got paid for sharing Russian propaganda or if they just consider you a useful idiot who will do it without pay. Which is it?rear Admiral Gilligan's alleged sense of honor has principles...
Like all reach-around republicrats, he has those principles...if you don't like them, he has other principles.
You've become quite the little ankle biter. You must be proud. I'm still waiting for the link to the site he copied all that from. I'm wondering if it's a Russian propaganda site like the ones you visit. You didn't answer the question about whether you got paid for sharing Russian propaganda or if they just consider you a useful idiot who will do it without pay. Which is it?
Quiet Skies is not the Terrorist Watch List, as she claimed, and is explained in that article. No. Did anyone actually accept the bet. If so, they can owe me.Is this good enough for you to collect my winnings?
Trump’s intel pick was placed on government watch list for overseas travel and foreign connections
So you went from betting 1000 dollars that she wasn’t put on any list to “well, it’s not a terrorist watch list”.Quiet Skies is not the Terrorist Watch List, as she claimed, and is explained in that article. No. Did anyone actually accept the bet. If so, they can owe me.
Nope. Any list? The assertion was she was put on the Terrorist Watchlist which I knew was nonsense. She wasn’t, and I was right. This isn’t hard. Nothing fascinating about it except you want to say she was on a list she obviously wasn’t on and clearly wouldn’t be.So you went from betting 1000 dollars that she wasn’t put on any list to “well, it’s not a terrorist watch list”.
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Fascinating.
Quiet Skies is not the Terrorist Watch List, as she claimed, and is explained in that article. No. Did anyone actually accept the bet. If so, they can owe me.
Read the first post in this thread and my response. It was about the Terrorist Watchlist. I said no way was she on that list and I’m right. The article proves I was right. Why is it so hard to admit when you’re wrong? I’ve never understood that.Weasel. I took the bet. Now you are being a weasel. Whatever. If you man up, admit you are wrong, send the $1000 to Tunnels to Tower. They are my go to charity. Let the board decide who's right in this bet.
Just read post #1, #20, and #25. Pretty clear.@ribbont @Aloha Hoosier want me to judge? What am I looking at?
I’ve read the exhibit to post 1 which notes flights and tsa noted in posts 24 and 25.Just read post #1, #20, and #25. Pretty clear.
The only thing that matters is whether she was on the Terrorist Watchlist (which is an FBI list) as she claimed and I knew she wasn’t. She wasn’t. The article my friend ribbont posted explains this. Case closed.I’ve read the exhibit to post 1 which notes flights and tsa noted in posts 24 and 25.
I have to take my daughter shopping now for food for her and her crew’s Friendsgiving so will take the matter under advisement.
Aloha in the meantime I’d encourage you to revisit settlement talks.
Post 25 states what list is referenced. Quiet skies. You should settleThe only thing that matters is whether she was on the Terrorist Watchlist (which is an FBI list) as she claimed and I knew she wasn’t. She wasn’t. The article my friend ribbont posted explains this. Case closed.
Read the first post in this thread and my response. It was about the Terrorist Watchlist. I said no way was she on that list and I’m right. The article proves I was right. Why is it so hard to admit when you’re wrong? I’ve never understood that.
I give to various charities. You can send $10000 to an Alzheimer’s charity. My MIL had Alzheimer’s before she died and my FIL had dementia.
Since they don't publish the FBI no fly list and there's no due process involved with it, how do you know she's not either still on it or was on it before being removed?The only thing that matters is whether she was on the Terrorist Watchlist (which is an FBI list) as she claimed and I knew she wasn’t. She wasn’t. The article my friend ribbont posted explains this. Case closed.
I clearly referred to the Terrorist Watchlist, which was mentioned repeatedly, including the OP. That is what I talked about and had in mind. It was in my first post. It’s not my problem others don’t know the difference between the lists. Hell, I may have been on Quiet Skies list after three Middle East business trips. I did get extra scrutiny on both ends of a trip to and from Phoenix - and I have TSA PreCheck so I thought it unusual. Nothing to hide or worry about. However, I don’t know I was on it.Post 25 states what list is referenced. Quiet skies. You should settle
The op is flights. The ones in the other posts were also flights referenced in the attached articles .I clearly referred to the Terrorist Watchlist, which was mentioned repeatedly, including the OP. That all I talked about. It was in my first post. It’s not my problem others don’t know the difference between the lists. Hell, I may have been on Quiet Skies list after three Middle East business trips. I did get extra scrutiny on both ends of a trip to and from Phoenix - and I have TSA PreCheck so I thought it unusual. Nothing to hide or worry about. However, I don’t know I was on it.
It’s clearly easy to get confused about exactly what we’re talking about here at times.
Typo. I trust you and I both give more than that per year. Look, I always had the Terrorist Watchlist in mind because it was in the OP and what I referred to. I’m sure she was never on it.You wrote $10,000. You want that or $1,000, which was our bet? I've already given $1,500 to ALZ this year but if you really believe you won and want me to give 10k, no sweat off my back. I just want you to admit you were wrong.
The quote that started it all:The op is flights. The ones in the other posts were also flights referenced in the attached articles .
I think you were duped on this one Aloha. Never bet against Tulsi.Quiet Skies is not the Terrorist Watch List, as she claimed, and is explained in that article. No. Did anyone actually accept the bet. If so, they can owe me.
There was an attachment in the op. You denied it. Then cnn later said sameThe quote that started it all:
“So Tulsi goes on Fox and criticizes Kamala and goes on Terrorist watch list next day. Who the hell is the dictator?”
Frankly, didn’t read it. Terrorist Watchlist is an actual thing. She wasn’t on it.There was an attachment in the op. You denied it. Then cnn later said same
That’s a scary admission. You don’t want to wait on the judge. There’s a little stink here. I’d try and settle. Offer $50 to charity and see if he bitesFrankly, didn’t read it. Terrorist Watchlist is an actual thing. She wasn’t on it.
I ask once again. How do you know she isn't/wasn't on it?Frankly, didn’t read it. Terrorist Watchlist is an actual thing. She wasn’t on it.
She meets no criteria to be on the FBI’s Terrorist Watchlist. It’s ridiculous on its face.I ask once again. How do you know she isn't/wasn't on it?
Still just kind of kidding, but that thing has a life of its own. They've admitted that there aren't enough people to keep it clean and well maintained. Add in the fact that there isn't due process in the additions to it or the process to get off it and it's a great example of our executive branch gone bad.
Where was the fbi mentioned. Read the op. Read the post ribbon bet you wherein the original article was attachedShe meets no criteria to be on the FBI’s Terrorist Watchlist. It’s ridiculous on its face.
The FBI maintains the Terrorist Watchlist.Where was the fbi mentioned. Read the op. Read the post ribbon bet you wherein the original article was attached
Settle
lol…Aloha you would be a terrible client for a lawyer 🤣The FBI maintains the Terrorist Watchlist.
Domestic terrorist gov watch list. The article was attached. And done so repeatedly. Flights.The FBI maintains the Terrorist Watchlist.
He’d just loselol…Aloha you would be a terrible client for lawyers 🤣
Quiet Skies isn’t a terrorist watchlist - domestic or otherwise.Domestic terrorist gov watch list. The article was attached. And done so repeatedly. Flights.
Quiet Skies isn’t a terrorist watchlist - domestic or otherwise.
The Terrorist Watchlist included actual terrorists and suspected terrorists.
Why make it so complicated?
That’s fine, However, my reaction was directly to the words “Terrorist Watch List.” This is a fact.In 'Quiet Skies' program, TSA is tracking regular travelers like terrorists in secret surveillance
Air marshals are conducting a new domestic surveillance program, tracking people as they fly and move through airports. It might be illegal.apps.bostonglobe.com
I don’t think you’re without defenses but the article was linked multiple times and I believe your knee jerk reaction was to deny she was placed on any gov list. The quiet skies program has been the gravamen of this entire thread. My inclination is to rule against you. As I said I’ll take this under advisement so that I can read the thread more closely but if a settlement is to be had I’d pursue it now