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But bashing the amateurish "process" that included no search or even consideration of other candidates is certainly fair game. No competent AD would be as negligent as Glass was.
That MIGHT be true if you knew what the process was but you don’t, furthermore, if the right guy was hired (and we don’t know the answer to that yet) then all the whining about the “process” is irrelevant.
 
And no one makes them as often as you do.
Nice try but, unlike you, I have no interest in - - or need for - - multiple user names, as I don't get banned.

One final thought and then the last word (as always) can be yours. When you come back under a new name in the next couple of weeks, try (for once) to make it a little challenging for other posters and the mods to identify you, in order to extend your next user name's shelf life. You might want to vary the writing style and try some new themes instead of the same two or three you roll out incessantly.
 
That MIGHT be true if you knew what the process was but you don’t, furthermore, if the right guy was hired (and we don’t know the answer to that yet) then all the whining about the “process” is irrelevant.
We absolutely know that no search was conducted and no other candidates were interviewed or even considered. We also know Glass pushed out Wilson without revealing any details whatsoever. It was and remains amateur hour.
 
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Nice try but, unlike you, I have no interest in - - or need for - - multiple user names, as I don't get banned.

One final thought and then the last word (as always) can be yours. When you come back under a new name in the next couple of weeks, try (for once) to make it a little challenging for other posters and the mods to identify you, in order to extend your next user name's shelf life. You might want to vary the writing style and try some new themes instead of the same two or three you roll out incessantly.
Interesting that you basically acknowledge that you're an excuse maker and content with the perpetual losing.
 
We absolutely know that no search was conducted and no other candidates were interviewed or even considered.
Please show me any evidence that FG didn’t consider anyone else or what his evaluation process was to determine CTA was the guy for the job .
 
Please show me any evidence that FG didn’t consider anyone else or what his evaluation process was to determine CTA was the guy for the job .
Wilson was fired and Allen hired within hours of each other. Are you suggesting Glass was able to go meet with other prospective candidates in that very compressed period? Or that he fired Wilson without any idea of who he would name to replace him, and magically decided on a whim to give the job to Allen? All the while, he kept his boss informed of everything, of course. Are you really suggesting that?
 
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We absolutely know that no search was conducted and no other candidates were interviewed or even considered. We also know Glass pushed out Wilson without revealing any details whatsoever. It was and remains amateur hour.
You have absolutely no idea what was occurring in the weeks leading up to the public announcement of Wilson's termination and Allen's hiring.

Further, Glass was under no obligation whatsoever (and was likely being prudent for legal reasons and because of liability concerns) to provide the public with details related to Wilson's termination.
 
You have absolutely no idea what was occurring in the weeks leading up to the public announcement of Wilson's termination and Allen's hiring.

Further, Glass was under no obligation whatsoever (and was likely being prudent for legal reasons and because of liability concerns) to provide the public with details related to Wilson's termination.

The KW process is no secret. I have accurately described the Performance Management process here a number of times. Sufficient documentation was released, the process is very similar in most large organizations particularly those that are publicly traded or publicly funded. FG was wisely just transparent enough to protect the university and KW's future.

The hiring announcement came quickly following the termination, it is unlikely other candidates were interviewed but no one on this board knows much about that aspect. Those that say they do are speculating.
 
Wilson was fired and Allen hired within hours of each other. Are you suggesting Glass was able to go meet with other prospective candidates in that very compressed period? Or that he fired Wilson without any idea of who he would name to replace him, and magically decided on a whim to give the job to Allen? All the while, he kept his boss informed of everything, of course. Are you really suggesting that?
You said no other candidates were “even considered”, you have no idea what was considered. You speak of a “compressed” period, yet you have zero idea what went on leading up to that period, none. What I am suggesting is that an analysis of the situation was ongoing for quite some time, as it is fairly obvious there was friction between FG and CKW for some time.
 
Wow, those are some strong crimson glasses you’re wearing.
No, not at all. I'm just a guy without an agenda who's objective and rational enough to understand how stupid and petty it is to pass judgment on a coach after one year. Especially when that first year is loaded with adversity not of the coach's making.

Now, if I was a petulant, irrational, juvenile always looking to blame someone and willing to overlook facts to advance my narrative - I would just call Tom Allen an abject failure who should be fired. And I would continue to cling to the myth that Brad Stevens would have been the basketball coach if only IU had made the right offer. Thankfully, I don't have to be that idiot because you have filled that role.
 
You said no other candidates were “even considered”, you have no idea what was considered. You speak of a “compressed” period, yet you have zero idea what went on leading up to that period, none. What I am suggesting is that an analysis of the situation was ongoing for quite some time, as it is fairly obvious there was friction between FG and CKW for some time.
No, we have a very good idea that no other candidates were considered, and the ultra-condensed timeframe in which Wilson was pushed out and Allen was hired confirms this. If you have any support for an alternative scenario, please post it.

Likewise, Glass was quite secretive in his dealings with Wilson, and that’s understandable as it protected both him (Glass) and Wilson from the likely embarrassment that full disclosure would’ve revealed. As for the phantom Performance Measurement process mentioned by another poster, no such information regarding anything like this has found its way into the public domain. The notion that anyone has addressed this (three times) isn’t remotely accurate, though I’m sure the specifics could easily be re-posted, if they actually existed.
 
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No, we have a very good idea that no other candidates were considered, and the ultra-condensed timeframe in which Wilson was pushed out and Allen was hired confirms this. If you have any support for an alternative scenario, please post it.

Likewise, Glass was quite secretive in his dealings with Wilson, and that’s understandable as it protected both him (Glass) and Wilson from the likely embarrassment that full disclosure would’ve revealed. As for the phantom Performance Measurement process mentioned by another poster, no such information regarding anything like this has found its way into the public domain. The notion that anyone has addressed this (three times) isn’t remotely accurate, though I’m sure the specifics could easily be re-posted, if they actually existed.
You have no idea if any other candidates were considered unless you are FG, which pretty obviously you are not. The “timeframe” has little to do with it, if anything, it supports the fact that this was in the works for some time. I’m not the one making wild claims about the “process”, you are, therefore, the burden of presenting support for your claims is on you. And , of course, you have provided nothing factual, only your opinion.
 
You have no idea if any other candidates were considered unless you are FG, which pretty obviously you are not. The “timeframe” has little to do with it, if anything, it supports the fact that this was in the works for some time. I’m not the one making wild claims about the “process”, you are, therefore, the burden of presenting support for your claims is on you. And , of course, you have provided nothing factual, only your opinion.
If it was in the works for some time, as you’re now alleging, then Glass was lying at the time of Wilson’s exit and Allen’s hiring. Your revisionist acrobatics notwithstanding, it’s quite obvious that no one else was considered. No search firm was engaged, no search committee was convened, no word was leaked in any way. That you’re now trying to craft explanations around how all of this went down only reveals your desperation to justify the unjustifiable, logic be damned.
 
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If it was in the works for some time, as you’re now alleging, then Glass was lying at the time of Wilson’s exit and Allen’s hiring. Your revisionist acrobatics notwithstanding, it’s quite obvious that no one else was considered. No search firm was engaged, no search committee was convened, no word was leaked in any way. That you’re now trying to craft explanations around how all of this went down only reveals your desperation to justify the unjustifiable, logic be damned.

Why does it matter no national search was conducted? Companies promote from within every day.

There were many factors involved when CKW was dismissed & CTA immediately hired: IU was preparing for a bowl; they were deep in the recruiting cycle; it was quite obvious Tom Allen was a difference maker as a coach. Fred Glass made what he felt was the best decision at the time.

This has eaten away at you for over 13 months now. Why? How miserable is your life that an IU head coaching hire which you did not approve of continues to dominate your life?
 
How many times does the same damn topic have to be obsessively repeated? And it’s not as if we went 2-10 this year. Jesus...
 
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Why does it matter no national search was conducted? Companies promote from within every day.

There were many factors involved when CKW was dismissed & CTA immediately hired: IU was preparing for a bowl; they were deep in the recruiting cycle; it was quite obvious Tom Allen was a difference maker as a coach. Fred Glass made what he felt was the best decision at the time.

This has eaten away at you for over 13 months now. Why? How miserable is your life that an IU head coaching hire which you did not approve of continues to dominate your life?
Responsible leadership tells you that a search was necessary, just as it was in 2007. I assume you supported Lynch being retained in the exact same manner, right? And, no, it wasn’t obvious Tom Allen was a difference maker as a coach.

The balance of your post is a transparent smokescreen.
 
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Responsible leadership tells you that a search was necessary, just as it was in 2007. I assume you supported Lynch being retained in the exact same manner, right? And, no, it wasn’t obvious Tom Allen was a difference maker as a coach.

The balance of your post is a transparent smokescreen.

IU's defense had the greatest statistical improvement in the nation from 2015 (under Brian Knorr) to 2016 (under Tom Allen). To me, this clearly supports my statement, I'm sorry, my "smokescreen"; that CTA made a difference.

I never said anything about Bill Lynch in 2007 because there was no proof Lynch was a difference maker as a coach.

Ramble on.
 
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How many times does the same damn topic have to be obsessively repeated? And it’s not as if we went 2-10 this year. Jesus...

I agree but I think Muhammad is more to blame ... he quite the A-Hole... the beard just gives it away
 
If it was in the works for some time, as you’re now alleging, then Glass was lying at the time of Wilson’s exit and Allen’s hiring. Your revisionist acrobatics notwithstanding, it’s quite obvious that no one else was considered. No search firm was engaged, no search committee was convened, no word was leaked in any way. That you’re now trying to craft explanations around how all of this went down only reveals your desperation to justify the unjustifiable, logic be damned.
And you’re guessing and blindly throwing darts at a board because you have no idea how it went down , none, zero. I’m not “crafting” any explanation because I don’t need to, I never claimed to know all the details in the first place, you did. You’re the one continually whining about the “process”, yet are completely devoid of any facts to back up your blathering.
 
And you’re guessing and blindly throwing darts at a board because you have no idea how it went down , none, zero. I’m not “crafting” any explanation because I don’t need to, I never claimed to know all the details in the first place, you did. You’re the one continually whining about the “process”, yet are completely devoid of any facts to back up your blathering.

Just ignore that clown. 5-7 your first year should get you fired but 6-6 in year 6 makes you a messiah. That's a special kind of an idiot right there.
 
And you’re guessing and blindly throwing darts at a board because you have no idea how it went down , none, zero. I’m not “crafting” any explanation because I don’t need to, I never claimed to know all the details in the first place, you did. You’re the one continually whining about the “process”, yet are completely devoid of any facts to back up your blathering.
The removal of Wilson and the appointment of Allen were done within hours of each other, and it’s clear no search was done. Attempting to create a false narrative only underscores your vapid position.
 
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I'm reading this thread and laughing my a$$ off. I cannot believe you guys don't have that guy on ignore. You do know, don't you, that your continued responses to him are exactly what he is here for? You are just feeding the fire. Please just put him on ignore and when everyone ignores him he will have lost his audience and might go away. But it will not matter if he goes away or not because everyone will have him on ignore! How cool is that?
 
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It is a good thing that social media was not around in 1984 when Bill Mallory's first year produced a winless season. He wouldn't have been given a second year, at least by many on this board.
 
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Please show me any evidence that FG didn’t consider anyone else or what his evaluation process was to determine CTA was the guy for the job .
You can't possibly be this dense can you? How would any outsiders be considered beforehand, if the job wasn't open yet?

Let's just face the facts. It was a half-hearted effort, with a cost cutting flavor.
 
I'm reading this thread and laughing my a$$ off. I cannot believe you guys don't have that guy on ignore. You do know, don't you, that your continued responses to him are exactly what he is here for? You are just feeding the fire. Please just put him on ignore and when everyone ignores him he will have lost his audience and might go away. But it will not matter if he goes away or not because everyone will have him on ignore! How cool is that?
Its entertaining for the time being listening to someone who can't get over something that was done over a year ago and can't do anything about it.

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Its entertaining for the time being listening to someone who can't get over something that was done over a year ago and can't do anything about it.

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Sure beats reminiscing about an underachieving season, doesn’t it? Well, some of us thought it was an underachieving season.
 
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