Why do you hate our constitution?
For all the Trump apologists
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Why do you hate our constitution?
Border crossings were a mess under Biden. Kudos to Trump for bringing that under control.
Removals are a separate issue. They are subject to constitutional law. You know, the US Constitution, something that has worked very well for us for a couple hundred years.
Trump’s frustrated because he’s not delivering on his promised deportations rate. He lags far behind Obama’s deportation numbers, and Trump’s deportations rate so far falls short of even Biden’s last year in office. So he wants to fast-track everything and circumvent the Constitution. That’s not how we do things in the United States.
Finally, the Trump administration has canned dozens of immigration judges and senior staffers. As usual, he contributes to a problem.
Wow. It's 20 now? It was 10 million last week. It's almost like one of those fish stories where the size grows with every retelling.
How did Obama manage to deport so many more than Trump? Why couldn't Trump just use the same process?
I explained where the order came from - the same place the Obama orders came from - do your own research.
Look, if you want to continue to harp on what's on Garcia's knuckles, knock yourself out. It's strictly a sideshow for the easily triggered. I couldn't give a shit, after 2 judges ruled him to be MS-13.
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No he doesn't. The SC already said district judges don't have authority outside their district.
Because Republican judges didn't question common sense actions by the President.
Lawfare is a real thing and Democrats have infiltrated the judicial system. We're fvcked, as a country.
Damn leftist Trump judicial nominee.
And Obama appointed judges have ruled in Trump's favor.
What's your point? Is it that Trump doesn't require his appointees to pass tests for loyalty and ideology? If so, it appears you are correct.
The same Supreme court that said Trump needs to facilitate his return, or are you just ignoring that order too?
Not do nothing, which Trump has already admitted.
Get him out of that prison and on U.S. soil. That doesn't mean he has to bring him all the way back here I would think, it could be done by video call at an embassy, but he needs to be out of the prison and given due process.
Then and only then send him wherever. It could be back to El Salvador, Venezuela, Mars, I don't really care. I do care that we have laws and processes to follow. You should too.
Come on, Baller, you can't expect the big and powerful strongman ruler of El Salvador to be at all receptive to some limp-wristed American President asking him to release someone he had previously been paid to accept. You must think the POTUS is important, or the leader of the free world. Silly.
That's not a definition.
He's an El Salvador citizen living in El Salvador. Unless the El Salvadoran President sends him back, Trump can't 'facilitate' his return.
Because I know you don't like it when Trump threatens other countries.
Why do you want Trump to insert himself into other country's laws?
Are you calling Trump a liar? Although I guess he is a liar either way given he said he couldn't bring him back but now says he can.
Trump has admitted that he "could" facilitate the return. He just doesn't want to.
www.bbc.com
www.cbsnews.com
www.nbcnews.com
Trump says he 'could' return Kilmar Ábrego García to US if he wanted to
He had previously said he did not have the power to retrieve Kilmar Ábrego García from El Salvador.
www.bbc.com
Trump says he "could" call to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia to U.S.
President Trump said he "could" ask the leader of El Salvador to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who the federal government has admitted was mistakenly deported last month.
www.cbsnews.com
Trump claims he 'could' have Kilmar Abrego Garcia returned to the U.S. His administration has said otherwise.
The president told ABC News he "could" have Kilmar Abrego Garcia returned from El Salvador but "we have lawyers that don't want to do this."
www.nbcnews.com
It's the 'laws and processes to follow' that is really at the crux of this. The MAGA crowd wants to conflate due process with wanting to put an alleged criminal back on the streets of Maryland. Most of us are just concerned with determining the 'alleged' part.
Either we're a nation of laws or we aren't. Some Trump supporters are OK with a collective shrug and going along with whatever is administration says.
@Baller23Boogie mentioned that they could probably take him to the US Embassy and have a video hearing there. If that's a viable option, I'm not sure why the Trump administration hasn't done that.Trump has admitted that he "could" facilitate the return. He just doesn't want to.
Trump says he 'could' return Kilmar Ábrego García to US if he wanted to
He had previously said he did not have the power to retrieve Kilmar Ábrego García from El Salvador.
Trump says he "could" call to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia to U.S.
President Trump said he "could" ask the leader of El Salvador to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who the federal government has admitted was mistakenly deported last month.
Trump claims he 'could' have Kilmar Abrego Garcia returned to the U.S. His administration has said otherwise.
The president told ABC News he "could" have Kilmar Abrego Garcia returned from El Salvador but "we have lawyers that don't want to do this."
He's better than Biden and Harris combined. Let that sink in.
that you can lie?
yup, it has sunk in
I could say vanpastorman is worse than trump but then again we can post anything and claim it as fact.
We ****ing pay him to take these guys. Are you saying we can't get him back?
Is that what you're saying because if so, he's a absolute horrible business man and a weak world leader.
I can't wait for you to claim the El Salvador president has more power then the president of the United States.
Do we really need to compile a list of the dozens (maybe hundreds?) of times a POTUS has worked through political pressure or merely using diplomatic channels and international organizations to seek cooperation from other nations in returning individuals?
I think most world leaders are happy to answer a phone call and consider a simple request.
Like "Remember the money I said I'd pay you, out of my illegal / non Congressionally-approved slush fund, to hold this gangster who wore a Chicago Bulls hat? Well, you'll still get your money for him and the hundreds of others, but we'd like it if you let this one guy out to be send back here to stand trial"
I think most world leaders are happy to answer a phone call and consider a simple request.
Like "Remember the money I said I'd pay you, out of my illegal / non Congressionally-approved slush fund, to hold this gangster who wore a Chicago Bulls hat? Well, you'll still get your money for him and the hundreds of others, but we'd like it if you let this one guy out to be send back here to stand trial"
No. It's not.
J.D. Vance’s Claims About the Number of Illegal Immigrants in the U.S. Are Exaggerated
No estimates indicate that there are 20 million people in the country illegally.
Better at what exactly? By Trump's own admission, the economy was better a year ago. It was so good in his eyes that he took credit for it. If you want to say he tightened up border security, fine. But Harris was campaigning on righting that ship too. Who knows if she would have kept her campaign promise. We do know Trump has been pretty crappy at delivering on his.
I don't believe I said that, but you're getting emotional about it.
Maybe respond to what I actually post instead of getting hysterical and making shit up.
Sure, and he COULD invade El Salvador to get him back.Trump has admitted that he "could" facilitate the return. He just doesn't want to.
Trump says he 'could' return Kilmar Ábrego García to US if he wanted to
He had previously said he did not have the power to retrieve Kilmar Ábrego García from El Salvador.
Trump says he "could" call to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia to U.S.
President Trump said he "could" ask the leader of El Salvador to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who the federal government has admitted was mistakenly deported last month.
Trump claims he 'could' have Kilmar Abrego Garcia returned to the U.S. His administration has said otherwise.
The president told ABC News he "could" have Kilmar Abrego Garcia returned from El Salvador but "we have lawyers that don't want to do this."
You don't understand what facilitate means.
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