Grammar man. They offered zero money. There was no wayYou should have gone to Cornell.
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Grammar man. They offered zero money. There was no wayYou should have gone to Cornell.
I didn't have a car while at IU. I walked. Apparently, it was harder for you. What did you do, crawl?How much am I spending in gas and maintenance? What if I don't have car? Room and board cost money. You can't go to IU or even IUPUI for 25K total anymore, and they are public, in state schools. It is screwed up that it costs 100K to go to IUB now: no debate necessary.
I never said Aloha or anybody else had to pay for my school. I paid off undergrad. However, I'm allowed to think the cost was way too high (which it was) and want to subsidize things like education and health care. I want to pay what Boomers paid for law school: that is fair.
P.S. You should have went to Cornell.
Walked, biked, and rode the bus: it worked out. I liked walking around campus.I didn't have a car while at IU. I walked. Apparently, it was harder for you. What did you do, crawl?
I got a bus pass my first semester and decided I didn't need it and couldn't afford it. Walked from then on. I didn't own a bike. I agree that walking around campus was enjoyable. Not being able to drive somewhere off campus wasn't, but it was what it was.Walked, biked, and rode the bus: it worked out. I liked walking around campus.
A few months into a typical law practice and where you went to school means exactly zilch. Same for GPA and LSAT number.Grammar man. They offered zero money. There was no way
Either the bus was free with student ID when I was there or it was part of tuition/fees. I got a pretty good work out riding and walking up the hills. I really only rode the bus when I had to go to Target or Wally World.I got a bus pass my first semester and decided I didn't need it and couldn't afford it. Walked from then on. I didn't own a bike. I agree that walking around campus was enjoyable. Not being able to drive somewhere off campus wasn't, but it was what it was.
helps immensely with that first jobA few months into a typical law practice and where you went to school means exactly zilch. Same for GPA and LSAT number.
Sure you can. Your law degree and what you know has huge value. You sell it each time you bill a client.True, but I also can't sell it.
Eh. For some firms, yeah. I was offered at a very large Indianapolis firm and that was based on my class standing, GPA and summer clerkship. They never had a lawyer from my school.helps immensely with that first job
That's using it, not selling it. If you have a house that's too expensive to stay in, you can get out of it by putting it on the market and using your gains to minimize your financial liabilities. You can't do that with an education.Sure you can. Your law degree and what you know has huge value. You sell it each time you bill a client.
I have a more or less vivid memory of a conversation I had when I let an associate lawyer go from our firm. I told him is law degree, his willingness and ambition to use it to earn a living, and his reputation is something nobody can ever take from him. Shortly after he left, he changed careers and thrived. He made his own job for a different organization. We remained friends.
Exactly.... nobody forced anyone to take out the loans. I don't get where they are coming from. Like I said in a previous post I've made my share of bad decisions in my life that I just had to live with. Unless universities misled students getting loans then it's on them and students certainly have a lot more ways to get info about careers, loans, etc than I had. If someone wants to borrow to get a degree in basket weaving and they can't get a job when they get out why should taxpayers pick up the tab. They could have determine that there was no market for basket weavers before they ever took out the loans.Excessive student loans are a choice.
This is their true meaning of empathy. They get a bad case of the feelz and then we pay for it. The normal procedure, start with a $10k case of the feels, slip in it us slowly until we get comfortable. We shut up and relax, then BAM they will get a $50k case of the feelz and ... well you know the rest. over and over and over..Exactly.... nobody forced anyone to take out the loans. I don't get where they are coming from. Like I said in a previous post I've made my share of bad decisions in my life that I just had to live with. Unless universities misled students getting loans then it's on them and students certainly have a lot more ways to get info about careers, loans, etc than I had. If someone wants to borrow to get a degree in basket weaving and they can't get a job when they get out why should taxpayers pick up the tab. They could have determine that there was no market for basket weavers before they ever took out the loans.
That’s an interesting take. Your time and talents is something you can sell over and over and never run out. You sell your house and you don’t have a house.That's using it, not selling it. If you have a house that's too expensive to stay in, you can get out of it by putting it on the market and using your gains to minimize your financial liabilities. You can't do that with an education.
Of course, they can't repossess it, either, so it goes both ways.
It is the Democrat way. They will solve all the ills of the world..........This is their true meaning of empathy. They get a bad case of the feelz and then we pay for it. The normal procedure, start with a $10k case of the feels, slip in it us slowly until we get comfortable. We shut up and relax, then BAM they will get a $50k case of the feelz and ... well you know the rest. over and over and over..
Look in the mirror and look at the policies you supportI don't know if every doc in Indiana does, but I'm sure they make good money on average. Still, how is it fair that an education for anything costs a quarter of a million dollars or more? Where does it end?
If you have gains, yes. I've bought 5 houses to date, and I ended up with no gain on one of them. I had to fork out $22,000 to sell it because I couldn't get enough in the sell. I almost gladly wrote the check because it at least increased my cash flow since I had been continuing to pay the mortgage for a few months while trying to sell it. I'd also already bought another house and was living in that. Gains aren't guaranteed. I'm sitting pretty with the current house though - it has definitely appreciated.That's using it, not selling it. If you have a house that's too expensive to stay in, you can get out of it by putting it on the market and using your gains to minimize your financial liabilities. You can't do that with an education.
Of course, they can't repossess it, either, so it goes both ways.
I didn't say anything about gains. Point is real property is something you can divest yourself of. That's why comparing student debt to other kinds of debt doesn't really work.If you have gains, yes. I've bought 5 houses to date, and I ended up with no gain on one of them. I had to fork out $22,000 to sell it because I couldn't get enough in the sell. I almost gladly wrote the check because it at least increased my cash flow since I had been continuing to pay the mortgage for a few months while trying to sell it. I'd also already bought another house and was living in that. Gains aren't guaranteed. I'm sitting pretty with the current house though - it has definitely appreciated.
Plus, a person can walk away from a mortgage and file for bankruptcy.I didn't say anything about gains. Point is real property is something you can divest yourself of. That's why comparing student debt to other kinds of debt doesn't really work.
My father-in-law was an alcoholic and easily worked 50-60 hours a week around heave equipment.C'mon... that is uncalled for. Nowhere have I seen goat complaining about having to pay off his loans. If he works 50-60 hours a week he's definitely not an alcoholic.
"should have went"?How much am I spending in gas and maintenance? What if I don't have car? Room and board cost money. You can't go to IU or even IUPUI for 25K total anymore, and they are public, in state schools. It is screwed up that it costs 100K to go to IUB now: no debate necessary.
I never said Aloha or anybody else had to pay for my school. I paid off undergrad. However, I'm allowed to think the cost was way too high (which it was) and want to subsidize things like education and health care. I want to pay what Boomers paid for law school: that is fair.
P.S. You should have went to Cornell.
Plus, a person can walk away from a mortgage and file for bankruptcy.
I know everyone is happy to help this poor soul out....
‘I’m paycheck to paycheck.’ I make $350K a year, but have $88K in student loans, $170K in car loans and a mortgage I pay $4,500 a month on. Do I need professional help?
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I know everyone is happy to help this poor soul out....
‘I’m paycheck to paycheck.’ I make $350K a year, but have $88K in student loans, $170K in car loans and a mortgage I pay $4,500 a month on. Do I need professional help?
Have an issue with your financial adviser or have questions about hiring a new one? Email picks@marketwatch.com.www.marketwatch.com
I'd like to see a federal program that adds $10K to his student debt as a punitive measure.I know everyone is happy to help this poor soul out....
‘I’m paycheck to paycheck.’ I make $350K a year, but have $88K in student loans, $170K in car loans and a mortgage I pay $4,500 a month on. Do I need professional help?
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This exactly what I was talking about in a earlier post I made in this thread.Felony stupid.
I'd like to see a federal program that adds $10K to his student debt as a punitive measure.
This exactly what I was talking about in a earlier post I made in this thread.
It's really hard for students to pay off their student debt, so I always knew that working and studying was the only way out today. Yes, combining work and study is not easy, but you have to try and develop your skills. This is especially true for students.What's it matter? If they have jobs and they are making their payments, it's not right to dismiss them as deadbeats.
I drive a 2018. It's the newest car I've ever owned. I needed a decent car with good mileage because I drive a lot. Otherwise, I live cheaply. I work between 50-60 hours a week, and I save most of my paycheck, excepting the money I spend to take care of Mama Goat, who can't afford everything she needs with her paltry SS payments.
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I'm a dumbass who took out way too much student debt. Biden's relief does nothing for me. In fact, nothing short of total forgiveness would. I'll be on income-based payments until my 25 years are up, and then the amount that's written off will very likely be more than my total balance is now. That sucks, but it is what it is. But it doesn't make me a deadbeat. It just makes me a guy who took on way too much debt.
When a public education isn't available to the public, it doesn't make much sense and defeats the purpose of the public institution. I do know that IU and other public institutions have increasingly accepted out of state and foreign students and charge them way more than in-state kids: I thought they initially did this to offset lack of public funding, but maybe they are just greedy as well?It’s maybe a policy decision. Should an Indiana kid who wants to attend an instate school be able to do it? To me, the answer just has to be yes.
I don't know if price would increase but I bet admissions would decrease at least in the short term as loans wouldn't be handed out to just anyone.If you allow people to eliminate student debt through bankruptcy, how much more expensive do you think it would be?
I don't know if price would increase but I bet admissions would decrease at least in the short term as loans wouldn't be handed out to just anyone.
I think rates would track how they do now. If you had parents who have good credit co-signing, no, I don't think rates would really change. If you didn't, then you would be paying higher rates like people do for homes and cars when their credit rating is not as good.And you don't think rates would also have to compensate the additional risk?
What additional risk? The schools aren't on the hook for the loans. The Feds are.And you don't think rates would also have to compensate the additional risk?