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Fire Fred Glass Tonight

Well that’s not happening, so...

I’m always intrigued...do people really think that by ranting like this, that someone’s actually going to get fired? You’re just spitting into the wind.
i think fan discontent gets back to the board if it gets loud enough. that being said, it's way too early for miller to get any heat. his recruits are halfway through their first season only. you have to give him time to put his product on the floor.
 
And that's great if you end up in the same place. And, maybe they did interview multiple people behind the scenes, but even if you think you know who you want, it's just wise protocol to conduct a thorough interview and talk with whoever the hot candidates are. RMK nor K were the first choice of either school at the time of their hire.
knight actually had a losing record his last season at army before being hired at indiana. that would never happen at any school today. knight must have had some reputation. but he was still so young an unproven. would love to hear from the ad that hired knight as to why
 
My point wasn't about Urban Meyer. My point was that OSU has a perennially winning football program -- which is why they're fine hiring a guy like Kevin Wilson (as was Oklahoma, BTW).

We have a perennially losing football program -- which is why we can't tolerate anybody like that.

And that was just part of my larger point that the leadership at IU -- at least in the last couple decades -- simply has not been committed to winning. How else can the decision to hire Mike Davis full-time be explained? The guy had never been a head coach at any level. Not college, not even high school. How else can the decision to continue hanging on to Tom Crean be explained, despite it being obvious that his transmission maxed out in 3rd gear?

I want to reiterate that I am not in the "fire Archie" camp. But I very much am in the camp of letting Archie know that the results he's churned out thus far are below what we should reasonably be able to expect -- and that he needs to get things turned around pronto.
i agree about the davis hire. such a pivotal hire for the program and the guy you hire readily admits he was not qualified or ready for the job. how the ad doesn't know that is beyond me
 
i think fan discontent gets back to the board if it gets loud enough. that being said, it's way too early for miller to get any heat. his recruits are halfway through their first season only. you have to give him time to put his product on the floor.

I seriously doubt that anything anybody says on a board like this directly plays any role in personnel decisions.

But, to the extent that online boards are a reflection of fans' mindsets on a broader scale (and that extent is arguable, I suppose), that certainly does matter. The last thing any university athletic administration wants to see is dwindling game attendance, dwindling TV ratings, dwindling merchandise sales, etc. And those are functions of fan enthusiasm.
 
Billy G was abusive and had other issues like being an alcoholic. UK was able to part ways with him without taking any hits. Its way premature to fire Miller this soon IMO
You are correct. He was awful. They did fire Joker Phillips in football after three years.
 
knight actually had a losing record his last season at army before being hired at indiana. that would never happen at any school today. knight must have had some reputation. but he was still so young an unproven. would love to hear from the ad that hired knight as to why

Probably not, but I think the military academies were at least traditionally held to a different standard, recognizing the challenges of fielding a winning team. They kept Jim Crews for 7 years and he never had a winning record. You're right, you'd probably have to be coming off a good/NIT/NCAA year, but I think even then a losing season in the year or 2 prior would be overlooked if they still had a decent overall record.
 
Listen to radio today people are calling out how predictable our offense is and why McRoberts is even on the floor also last night Romeo was -13 when it rains it pours.
 
From my recollection, no committee was hired, at least not a formal one; Archie was Fred's choice. In fact, one of my criticisms was that a more thorough search didn't seem to have been done and they zeroed in on Archie without talking to other coaches.

I didn’t and don’t have a problem with the hire. Archie was widely considered to be a great catch
This is true. Glass can’t be fired over this hire.
 
i agree about the davis hire. such a pivotal hire for the program and the guy you hire readily admits he was not qualified or ready for the job. how the ad doesn't know that is beyond me

Well he had stuck around in a tough situation and brough the team to the ncaa tourney. The players wanted to pay for him. I think they felt like they owed him. No different rally than crean showing no improvement by year three and the administaration not even blinking at it. Eight big ten wins in three years. With three wins in the third year being laughable it was so bad at that point.

I think the Knight firing right before the season came at the worst possible time cause it gave Davis a whole season. Fire him in the spring and you have time to get a new coach. Even firing him halfway through the season does not really give Davis enough time to prove himself. They wanted to fire Knight and probably should have just done it in the spring after the vidoe came out. I think it would have workd out alot better for the future of the program as we could have done a real coaching search.
 
He can be fired over the fact that he allowed the program to deteriorate to the condition it is in now.
As long as the arena remains packed and people keep buying IU gear they will not fire Glass. You need the arena half empty during big ten games to get their attention.
 
As long as the arena remains packed and people keep buying IU gear they will not fire Glass. You need the arena half empty during big ten games to get their attention.

You will start to see crowds that look like our Vanderbilt NIT crowd from 2006 if it continues beyond next year. Hell, you might see it this year if we don’t win another game, a real possibility.
 
You know I wanted Alford over Miller I know the forum is split over Alford but we are on our 4th coach since Painter was hired maybe we should bring a IU guy I mean Stevens would be my first choice but Alford, Wittman, Smart, Woodson all I have coaching experience I would love the staff that was rumored at IU with Alford HC Smart AC, Damon Bailey AC, were going to be on the staff.
 
You know I wanted Alford over Miller I know the forum is split over Alford but we are on our 4th coach since Painter was hired maybe we should bring a IU guy I mean Stevens would be my first choice but Alford, Wittman, Smart, Woodson all I have coaching experience I would love the staff that was rumored at IU with Alford HC Smart AC, Damon Bailey AC, were going to be on the staff.

Remind me again when RMK played for IU, K for Duke and Wooden for UCLA before they were hired? A total non-factor and another red herring. Get the right guy, regardless of background and all will be good if he's properly supported.

I still believe Archie will get it turned around, but this year is shaking my confidence and I think that's always a risk when you hire from a mid-major. It is a different skill set running a big time program vs just coaching.
 
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Remind me again when RMK played for IU, K for Duke and Wooden for UCLA before they were hired? A total non-factor and another red herring. Get the right guy, regardless of background and all will be good if he's properly supported.

I still believe Archie will get it turned around, but this year is shaking my confidence and I think that's always a risk when you hire from a mid-major. It is a different skill set running a big time program vs just coaching.
like night coming here off a losing season at army?
 
I still believe Archie will get it turned around, but this year is shaking my confidence and I think that's always a risk when you hire from a mid-major. It is a different skill set running a big time program vs just coaching.

Well, I don't know if the issue is leaping from mid-major to P5. Could be. But, whatever the case, anybody whose confidence isn't shaken right now probably needs to reevaluate where exactly we're at and why.

I partially agree with those who say that we're still experiencing some hangover from the last few years of Crean's tenure. But, as much as I wish it did, it doesn't explain everything that we're struggling with right now.
 
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I can't believe people are bashing Miller so badly. He's came in and brought 2 straight Indiana Mr Basketball's. I've read where reporters said they've never seen the amount of injuries on a team as Indiana has in all their years of reporting! Not only does that effect our bench, but it causes the players we do have to become really fatigued as the season goes on. Has he make some mistakes absolutely but if you can't see the progress he has made already you're crazy. Even with this losing streak that we're on. He's done everything that he said he would. Just my opinion
 
He can be fired over the fact that he allowed the program to deteriorate to the condition it is in now.
So, the record of one program would be the determining factor for retention or firing of the AD??
 
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I can't believe people are bashing Miller so badly. He's came in and brought 2 straight Indiana Mr Basketball's. I've read where reporters said they've never seen the amount of injuries on a team as Indiana has in all their years of reporting! Not only does that effect our bench, but it causes the players we do have to become really fatigued as the season goes on. Has he make some mistakes absolutely but if you can't see the progress he has made already you're crazy. Even with this losing streak that we're on. He's done everything that he said he would. Just my opinion
Poor training methods?????
 
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