I don't disagree with the premise of losing the fan base...but neither CTC or Arch ever lost the fan base in the first 3 years. Woodie only started to lose it during last years skid AND the same fans held their breath and hoped he bought the right team to pull us back up. He fully lost me in the Bahamas this year. There's not enough money in the world to make him a good coach, IMO.
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Huh? Archie lost the fanbase during the stretch where he lost 12/13 games in year 2. He actually had a pretty good season year 3 but nobody cared and the season abruptly ended.
There was an absolute mutiny in the middle of last season with the IU media and Woodson. You had people with access to the program feeding rumors to national insiders that Woodson was getting fired in favor of Bruce Pearl.
Here's a tip - the reader can't tell you're being sarcastic (unless you say so).
HNY to all!
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Fans turned on him 1) because he's smug and arrogant, 2) doesn't appear to be putting his all in to his work, and 3) and primarily, because he's not winning to the level of expectations of this job, and his own pronouncements: "I'm here to compete for conference and national championships". IU has won 5 NCs, and I'd guess from last year is top 5 in NIL $. I don't know beans about Auburn football's situation, but you think they are in the same situation: has a history as a NC/top tier team (I don't think so, outside of one Cam Newton, but maybe I'm wrong?), and top 5ish in NIL? I seriously doubt it with the likes of Bama, UT, UT, LSU, NB, OK, OSU, A&M, UM, UF, UGA, Clemson, Ole Miss, ND, etc... running around. They may not be top 5 in the SEC.
The problem with bball is that coaches just don't move that much, the good or promising ones get poison-pilled with buyouts and the experienced ones that do get burned out jump to the NBA. It's just very hard to get a top tier name to come coach your program, ie. why UK ended up with alum Mark Pope and UL ended up with Pat Kelsey. That's likely what we need to do, find a promising up and comer like Drake's coach, unless someone like Pearl or Beard really want to come to IU and is one of their dream jobs. It's the landscape (and possibly the admin), but it's not the expectations of the job that would keep people away. Anyone coming to a program with top tier aspirations knows they have to win, and win quickly. Ask Kalen DeBoer what he thinks his grace period will be (hint: he just used it going 9-3 and finishing outside the CFP).
And there is that part about he lied to the NCAA. I get why most don't care, but IU went down that road once before and it destroyed the program. Seems best to avoid doing it again.
Ballo, Galloway and Rice have been on fire the last couple games. Goode is now contributing much more than earlier in the season.
What changed, in your opinion? You say the coaches "can't seem to get the most out of the players," so what was it that caused the change in those four players?
It’s the players that aren’t producing that’s the main issue(MM/KC). MM has all the talent, but doesn’t look like a team player to me! He looks like he doesn’t care and does what ever he wants. His ass needs to be glued to the bench while Tucker takes his minutes. KC just looks like he belongs in D2.
Two of those coaches had ZERO college head coaching experience and another (best since RMK) was let go for non basketball reasons. The current coach had no reason whatsoever to be hired as HC at IU. Guys like you mentioned above believe they can win anywhere, unlike the current thin skinned coach at IU.
Your response had nothing to do coaching ability and demonstrates that certain undertones still remain within this fanbase.
Two things immediately jump to mind: 1) soft schedule. I doubt we've played a tournament team yet in the B10, or one that will finish top half. 2) The biggest coaching adjustment was the staff responding to losing their best player, which finally forced us to play 1 big as so many have been clamoring for. You might, but I don't give CMW much credit for that "move". Heck, I think it's still questionable if he'll stick with one big when MR returns. I do expect him to start both, and don't have a problem with that, but after that initial stint, I hope he'll rotate MR and OB for most of the rest of the game.
You're an embarrassment to the forum. And that's saying a lot for this place.
Reneau getting hurt and Woodson using only one big man opens up the floor for him (Ballo) and the shooters and drivers. It seems like the coach recognized that after the fans.
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